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teezdalien - Walkin' Floor [prog.house/trance] (Revised)

Hi all.. first time I've rally posted anything in here, thought I'd post up a recent track I made as I'd like to try and get some thoughts and ideas from others here on how I can improve my work. I know I've still got some way to go before I would bother trying to send stuff to labels but I do think I'm improving, I know this is probably a bit generic for some people's tastes though.
What started out as a progressive house track ended up quite trancy. You'll probably be able to tell I don't have a proper studio with monitors or anything, trying to make do with what I have for now.
Anyway I'd appreciate any feedback.

I would really feel comfortable working with what you have so far man, a lot of cool FX, slowly forming but nice melody line and some pretty sweet sound selection I can find at this moment. The part which I'm not sold yet is overall blend or gluing in this track, what I mean is that I can hear a few bit different sounding parts in your production which for me will have to blend more naturally/organically together to make this fully enjoyable and lasting impact of well develop structurally and melodically production.

I hope that you can get a right massage from my comment lol, if not, I will try to elaborate a bit more.

Cheers,

Darek

Cheers for the response Darek, I think I understand where you're coming from, some of the sounds could probably gel together a bit more nicely, especially the leads I'm thinking.
I didn't do an awful lot of processing of the sounds here as I'm a bit limited with my crappy cpu... (poor excuse..lol). But yeah I think you're right and that I could probably take the EQing a lot further to improve it and give the sounds a better sense of their own space.
Thanks for the insight.

Yeah, you got this right my friend, will try to go through it more tomorrow and see If I can give you a bit more or better info.

Cheers,

Darek

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Originally posted by Teezdalien ........ to improve it and give the sounds a better sense of their own space.

Yeah this is the right approach after going through your track again today. Let me know if you got any more development done to this production.

Have a good one my friend.

Cheers,

Darek

Thanks again mate. I'm going to be a bit busy over the next few days but I plan to do some work on it before the weekend.

That left pan ride on the open hat kind of kills the vibe. That part is a little too prominent (perhaps for my taste). I love pretty much everything else, but that part is a little overwhelming. It's also tonally out of key with the rest of your parts.

Thanks for listening and your feedback Eddie. You're right, I'll also see what I can do about improving that too, it's also quite static sounding to me now... I might even replace that sample with something else. I'm not too surprised that you bought that up as I don't often take the time to really tune all my percussion unless there are obvious overtones that really need tuning.

Can't really comment on the mixdown since I'm on crappy laptop speakers now, but this is sounding extremely impressive. I'm not sure if the break needs to be quite that long though.

Thanks for the feedback and the nice comment Nik, hoping the mixdown isn't too bad but I don't have a proper monitoring set-up myself yet so it's probably likely that there's some issues there. Darek and Eddie have also raised some valid points I'm intending to address, but yeah I'm quite happy with how it has come along for me so far. Will take another look at the structue/arrangement of the breakdown but not really sure if I can effectively shorten it...we'll see.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien not really sure if I can effectively shorten it...we'll see.

Nor should you if you're happy with it. Just my personal preference.

Ok guys I've made a few mix tweaks and done some extensive eqing of the parts to see if I can make it a bit more coherant, to be honest I really feel the difference is marginal and am starting to think it's more of a sound selection issue.
I've left the structure/arrangement as it was, as it will take me a bit of time to re-arrange and I don't think it would be really worth it. I also don't think I can make much more of an improvement on the sounds that I've gone with here, with the tools and experience I have but I'm more than happy to take some specific suggestions or advice on how else I could improve it. I'm thinking I'll just leave this as is now and bare any more criticism in mind for future works.
The update is in the OP and the download is also 320 now.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien Ok guys I've made a few mix tweaks and done some extensive eqing of the parts to see if I can make it a bit more coherant, to be honest I really feel the difference is marginal and am starting to think it's more of a sound selection issue. I've left the structure/arrangement as it was, as it will take me a bit of time to re-arrange and I don't think it would be really worth it. I also don't think I can make much more of an improvement on the sounds that I've gone with here, with the tools and experience I have but I'm more than happy to take some specific suggestions or advice on how else I could improve it. I'm thinking I'll just leave this as is now and bare any more criticism in mind for future works. The update is in the OP and the download is also 320 now.

Just finish going over your latest production changes and even thou, as you said in your last comment that your change/adjustment was marginal, you provide enough connections within your track to bridge between, what I called independent sounding sections, in more natural and pleasing to my ear way, nice work and I hope that you going to do something with this track now lol.

Cheers,

Darek

Loverly. I have no further complaints.

cool track indeed.

Thanks again for all the listens and feedback, I'm happy that you guys seem to like it. I don't quite feel my own stuff is of a standard that I'd be happy to try and sell properly just yet, although I do feel I'm getting closer. So I'm not planning on sending this to any labels for a release, just gonna leave it up on soundcloud as a freebie (along with my other tracks). I've already sent it to a few dj friends in Melbourne and am gonna play it out myself next time I get the chance to really test it out a bit and see peoples reactions, I'd like to hear it on a decent system, just hope not to clear the floor lol.

I think it's pretty good tbh. There are some obvious issues with the mix, which are mainly the lack of bottom end but that's due to the monitoring issue as you say.

I can't really fault the rest of the track at all and i'm particularly impressed by some of the fx and ideas you've got in there. It sounds like a track made by somebody that knows what they're doing to a large degree.

Get yourself some monitors and I don't reckon it'll be long before you get signed. It's much better (mix aside) than most of the shite that goes out on the smaller labels as it is already.

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Originally posted by tehlord I think it's pretty good tbh. There are some obvious issues with the mix, which are mainly the lack of bottom end but that's due to the monitoring issue as you say. I can't really fault the rest of the track at all and i'm particularly impressed by some of the fx and ideas you've got in there. It sounds like a track made by somebody that knows what they're doing to a large degree. Get yourself some monitors and I don't reckon it'll be long before you get signed. It's much better (mix aside) than most of the shite that goes out on the smaller labels as it is already.

Hey thanks for the constructive and positive feedback G. I've been trying to produce for a couple of years although I've been a DJ working on and off for a long time now and have done a little bit of work helping out in a few recording studios in the past, it's nice to read comments like that.
A good pair of monitors and finding a nice space to be able to set-up a studio/workspace are a pretty high priority for me, once I can sort out a few other personal issues I'm dealing with atm. I'm glad you've pointed out the issues with the mix, like I said I'm not too surprised but it's good to know.

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Originally posted by tehlord ........ and i'm particularly impressed by some of the fx and ideas you've got in there. It sounds like a track made by somebody that knows what they're doing to a large degree.

And guess from who did he learn that from

Lol, just sweet work man!!!

Cheers,

Darek

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Originally posted by pozz i'm really impressed by this piece man. there's a slight busyness (alot going on at once, alot of elements) when the main bit of the mix kicks in after the breakdown. that main section is not drawn out enough -- you got nice melody and all that but it disappears so fast. only part i didn't like was the breakdown itself, although i see what you tried to do: multiple little tricks to make us expect a drop that doesn't come, pulling back a few times until it DROPS. it's too much man, feels kinda convoluted. i also listened to "Retrieval 1", "One More Twip", and "Chrome Shift" -- holy shit man, you got some heavy compositional skill, especially in polyphony and rhythm. very wide variety of sound. the latter especially sounds like a vibe Russians have been very into for the last 10 years or so. (mixing has to improve, but i'm the wrong person to offer concrete advice about that.)

This kind of thorough, balanced feedback makes it feel worthwhile posting music in this place, I'm a lot happier with the response and comments I'm getting from you guys here than what little I've had on soundcloud, so thanks again to you all.
You've given me some good thoughts here I can work with poz, so I'll certainly be looking at improving the structure of my breakdowns with future works. I guess I can also say that the thing I find hardest dealing with or working towards is drawing out the arrangement melodically, I'm currently working on another house tune, playing with some drawn out arrangement ideas as I can certainly see where you're coming from with these comments.
Thanks for checking out my other works, yea I try to keep a few projects on the go at the same time time and try to be somewhat diverse as it keeps things interesting, keeps me motivated and the ideas flowing. I don't take everything I do with music too seriously but I have some projects where I do. I just think I'll be happy if I can keep improving as consistently as I have say over the last 12 months.

This is a great little song.
Love your rhythms in this.
Will check your other work now mate.

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Originally posted by Camwin This is a great little song. Love your rhythms in this. Will check your other work now mate.

Thanks for your feedback and for checking out my music Cam, the stuff on soundcloud is quite varied, also currently working on a drum n bass track that I might post here when I get it all together.

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