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Posted by Microlab on Feb-13-2012 07:35:

Is that a pad or FX?

Check the links below, those are ATB - Ecstasy and Above&Beyond - Stealing time (both album versions). Right in the beginning they have some kind of atmospheric sound in the background, with different voices, sounds and FX like wind, noise etc. How can it be replicated? Using a pad with long reverb, just wet reverb from a pad or an FX? Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bVYgYW6410

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vce2lifDJ-s

Posted by Julz on Feb-13-2012 09:50:

Its just a really wet pad

Posted by tehlord on Feb-13-2012 10:23:

Re: Is that a pad or FX?

quote:
Originally posted by Microlab
Right in the beginning they have some kind of atmospheric sound in the background, with different voices, sounds and FX like wind, noise etc. How can it be replicated?

You've kind of answered your own question there, although in the case of the first link it's more about the reverb on the pluck.

Posted by Microlab on Feb-13-2012 10:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Julz
Its just a really wet pad

in both songs?

Posted by Microlab on Feb-13-2012 10:28:

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Originally posted by tehlord
You've kind of answered your own question there

Yes, but where can I get similar FX or sounds?

Posted by Microlab on Feb-13-2012 10:30:

Re: Re: Is that a pad or FX?

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Originally posted by tehlord
although in the case of the first link it's more about the reverb on the pluck.

What would be the settings?

Posted by tehlord on Feb-13-2012 10:42:

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Originally posted by Microlab
What would be the settings?

Big room, average decay (5-10 seconds) a little predelay and it sounds a little low passed as well. Probably heavily compressed with a short release time.

Just experiment. And use a decent reverb.

Posted by Microlab on Feb-13-2012 11:48:

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quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Big room, average decay (5-10 seconds) a little predelay and it sounds a little low passed as well. Probably heavily compressed with a short release time.

Just experiment. And use a decent reverb.

Why would I need to compress reverb? Sorry, really no idea

Posted by tehlord on Feb-13-2012 12:45:

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Originally posted by Microlab
Why would I need to compress reverb? Sorry, really no idea

Extends the tail mostly, makes it a little smoother depending on what compressor you're using. Usually you need to extend the decay time to create a long reverb, but that's not always the tone you want as it can get muddy/messy.

Posted by Normie on Feb-14-2012 01:17:

Re: Is that a pad or FX?

quote:
Originally posted by Microlab
Check the links below, those are ATB - Ecstasy and Above&Beyond - Stealing time (both album versions). Right in the beginning they have some kind of atmospheric sound in the background, with different voices, sounds and FX like wind, noise etc. How can it be replicated? Using a pad with long reverb, just wet reverb from a pad or an FX? Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bVYgYW6410

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vce2lifDJ-s

http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?plugin=Rain&id=319

There are a number of atmospheric vsts at this site (rain link here) like wind thunder and more. They are free and really great for pad FX.

Add hi/lo/band/notch sweeps and the forementioned verb and compression as needed for layered etheral bliss.

Posted by Microlab on Dec-22-2013 22:47:

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quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Extends the tail mostly, makes it a little smoother depending on what compressor you're using. Usually you need to extend the decay time to create a long reverb, but that's not always the tone you want as it can get muddy/messy.

How should I compress the reverbed sound? Insert a compressor on a Send channel?

Posted by Looney4Clooney on Dec-23-2013 00:59:

compressing the reverb makes your signal drier the louder it gets which just reduces clutter. Thats the main reason people do it. Again automation seems much more logical but in EDM with the whole side chaining and that reverb effect you get , compression gets used.

Posted by TranceElevation on Dec-23-2013 02:00:

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Originally posted by Microlab
Why would I need to compress reverb? Sorry, really no idea

You don't NEED to. However, with the appropriate setting it will accentuate even more the imaginary space of the reverb.
It's the essence of trance, enhance the perception of an imaginary space.

Trance without reverb is like rock guitars without distorsion.

Btw, don't listen to me. I'm drunk.

Good nigth all.

Posted by Newty on Dec-24-2013 06:04:

No pad there. Just a pluk with laods of reverb and delay. if you hear the very first split second of the exctasy clip, u will notice the wet stuff is not there yet, thats because there is like a 30ms predelay on the reverb. hope this helps a bit!

Posted by Newty on Dec-24-2013 06:46:

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Originally posted by TranceElevation
You don't NEED to. However, with the appropriate setting it will accentuate even more the imaginary space of the reverb.
It's the essence of trance, enhance the perception of an imaginary space.

Trance without reverb is like rock guitars without distorsion.

Btw, don't listen to me. I'm drunk.

Good nigth all.

and to compress the verb, all you have to day is place the compressor before the reverb on the channel?

Posted by TranceElevation on Dec-24-2013 13:38:

After it.