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Roland Gaia, any owners out there?

Despite the fact that Roland keep raping their heritage with similarly named piles of crap to their genuine old classics, the Gaia does seem fairly decent.

To me it comes across as a mini Virus with less synthesis features, but really nice filters and a decent FX section. The UI is nice too.

Plus I can run it off batteries and program on the shitter.

Had one, quite similar sounding to JP8000
monotimbral though, so 1 VA patch and a GM channel

Not too fussed about the mono timbral aspect, it's more of a fuck about machine that might result in a tasty noise or two. I can maek teh acids on it in the bath.

Going for �300 on Ebay too. Bargain.

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the guy that named the machine should be fired. Honestly, you could of changed the name, called it something not gay and it would not get the bad press it does. It just sounds like a vst. I can't tell the difference.

for the price, there are just better options. I don't see why anyone sober would buy this. Get a used virus B.

Yep, worth it, very different filters to Sylenth

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney the guy that named the machine should be fired. Honestly, you could of changed the name, called it something not gay and it would not get the bad press it does. It just sounds like a vst. I can't tell the difference.

Of course it sounds like a VST, but that's not the point.

A softsynth on an iPad sounds like a VST too, but it doesn't have cool knobs and sliders and flashing lights.

At least it's not called iGaia

I play it once a week or so when I'm in Guitar Center and I'm waiting for the day that I don't say "wow this Roland toy is an overpriced plastic piece of shit". I think the Novation UltraNova is a step in terms of build quality, but has a less tactile interface, and more parameters hidden in memory. Honestly, I have no idea why anybody would spend more than $150 on one of these Vanguard-in-cheap-plastic-housing toys, but I suppose if you just want something to play while taking a dump without concern for it falling in the shitter where it belongs, $699 is the price you have to pay,

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Originally posted by tehlord Of course it sounds like a VST, but that's not the point. A softsynth on an iPad sounds like a VST too, but it doesn't have cool knobs and sliders and flashing lights. At least it's not called iGaia

but why spend money on something when there are just so many better options. I mean it is a bad purchase. I mean Raphie is comparing it to Sylenth and its filters which are just horrible but again Raphie is deaf so god bless his soul but really, when you start comparing a cheap softsynth to something of that price, kinda sad no ?

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Originally posted by cryophonik I play it once a week or so when I'm in Guitar Center and I'm waiting for the day that I don't say "wow this Roland toy is an overpriced plastic piece of shit". I think the Novation UltraNova is a step in terms of build quality, but has a less tactile interface, and more parameters hidden in memory. Honestly, I have no idea why anybody would spend more than $150 on one of these Vanguard-in-cheap-plastic-housing toys, but I suppose if you just want something to play while taking a dump without concern for it falling in the shitter where it belongs, $699 is the price you have to pay,

If it were just the wrapping you suggest then i'd agree, but from the videos I've seen it does at least sound nice as well. I certainly wouldn't buy one new, it's not worth �500 to me.

Sadly I don't have a store within 50 miles that has one to play so i'll be buying blind.

Edit - and 50 UK miles is about the same as 150 US miles. Or probably the same as 50 New York miles.

do you live on Shire ?

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney do you live on Shire ?

Yes, Berkshire

Which is comprised of 25,000 miles of really tiny roads with 5 millions people driving Range Rovers and Cayennes on them.

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Originally posted by tehlord If it were just the wrapping you suggest then i'd agree, but from the videos I've seen it does at least sound nice as well. I certainly wouldn't buy one new, it's not worth �500 to me. Sadly I don't have a store within 50 miles that has one to play so i'll be buying blind.

I stayed away from mentioning the sound for the reasons you already gave - it's a soft synth, nothing to go crazy over, but also doesn't sound bad (but consider that I've only played it in GC). Spec-wise, its synth architecture is pretty basic - most $100+ soft synths will equal or exceed it.

This synth sounds pretty good, i would definitely have bought one if the waveforms werent sample based.

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Originally posted by cryophonik I stayed away from mentioning the sound for the reasons you already gave - it's a soft synth, nothing to go crazy over, but also doesn't sound bad (but consider that I've only played it in GC). Spec-wise, its synth architecture is pretty basic - most $100+ soft synths will equal or exceed it.

Again I can't argue with that, but I happily paid �139 (or whatever it was) for Sylenth so paying double that for something broadly similar in sonic capability that has a nice hardware control surface sits ok with me.

It's little more than a toy to mess about with when I've had enough time at the DAW, that just happens to be capable of coming up with something tasty once in a while.

I would do it with a Nord Lead or something, but it's not quite so easy to sit on the sofa with that and mess about.

iPad and a bunch of $5 synths. Yeah, I know, no real knobs and sliders, but still very tactile and responsive.

Animoog, Alchemy Mobile, iMaschine, etc. are a lot of fun.

That said and, despite my bashing of Gaia, I can see the attraction in having a little portable synth to play around with.

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Originally posted by Subtle This synth sounds pretty good, i would definitely have bought one if the waveforms werent sample based.

all dsp synths are sample based including the virus, the jp 8000 ......

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Originally posted by tehlord Yes, Berkshire Which is comprised of 25,000 miles of really tiny roads with 5 millions people driving Range Rovers and Cayennes on them.

What would one consider an estate. Like in that move where batman's butler plays a real person and fights the youth of the estates. Is that real ? Are there no go zones in london ? Or does the media play it up. Like if the crips and some london gang where to throw down, would it be close or would the brits have to break for tea. IN that movie, they seem like legitimate street gang material.

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Originally posted by cryophonik iPad and a bunch of $5 synths. Yeah, I know, no real knobs and sliders, but still very tactile and responsive. Animoog, Alchemy Mobile, iMaschine, etc. are a lot of fun. That said and, despite my bashing of Gaia, I can see the attraction in having a little portable synth to play around with.

I despise touchscreens for anything other than the odd poke of a play button etc. It's weird, I want to like them but I just can't. I grew up watching Star Trek next generation (well, i'd already grown up but you know) thinking that their touchscreens were so cool. Sadly I'm too oldskool for all that.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney all dsp synths are sample based including the virus, the jp 8000 ......

I thought they were calculated in real time. Hmmm!

nope. They all use value tables.

get the arturia mini brute

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd get the arturia mini brute

No batteries dude, it won't entertain me during long poo poos

I'll almost certainly get one as well though.

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Originally posted by tehlord No batteries dude, it won't entertain me during long poo poos

I like the way you think. Since the excretory function is in itself an act of creation, it's a perfect time to compose. Besides, that way if someone tells you the song is shit, you can honestly say "Well what the frig did you expect?"

at least you'll have hardware sound and when it reaches the a/d stage, you'll be the only one who can tell the difference

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Originally posted by tehlord No batteries dude, it won't entertain me during long poo poos I'll almost certainly get one as well though.

Just thought of a cheap solution for you - Emu Xboard 25 (atkes batteries) with a usb Bluetooth.

Cheaper than a Gaia and you can use any vst you want.

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