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i have been thinking of mooving 2 hardware production ...

and i have some questions,

1. where shuld i start ? i already gor a sinthesizer (yamaha cs2x) and what shuld i buy next ? , i thought of getting a drum sequencer.. and then a mixer

can u recommend enything for me?

2. which program shuld i use for recording?

if u got a pc get cubase

Thats software !


Isnt there enynoe in this forum that uses hardware 2 make there music ?!?!

I use hardware, well i got a virus c but using a delta 44 soundcard i play it into the pc and use cubase as a mixer. If youve only got one bit of hardware you dont need a mixing desk, just use the mixer in cubase and get a descent soundcard. As for drums use reason, its better than ne drum machine(in my opinion). Softwares the way forward neway, try n get a mix of both software and hardware, using just hardware if your already using just software seems a bit of a drastic change and an expensive one to!

Hi,

I would buy a sampler. Like the MPCs from Akai. These consist a sequenser, so if the sequenser is not to limited you don't even need Cubase for sequensing or something like that. There are loads of sample cds that have everything you need to make music. These are not expensive so you can easily expand you sound collection with cds instead of buying new synths for sounds. If you want to use your CS2X too you will need a mixer, but you can also sample those sounds with youre sampler. If you want a program for recording you can get Cubase, Cakewalk Sonar, or Logic if you have a Mac.

I play the virus into a delta44 and use it in realtime using cubase as a mixer so you dont actually need a hardware mixer. Akai sampler would be good, altho id rather have a program which converted akai sample cds into nn19 patches or nnxt patches. I think there might be one, ne ideas neone?

i would not go for an mpc, unless you want to go live. You've already got a synth with onboard sample synthesis (cs2x) so i would now consider buying a (virtual) analog synth such as virus c, supernova, waldorf q (or their rack versions since you allready have a great keyboard). You'll go far further in terms of warm trance leads and pads then a sample based synth.

As far as hardware sequencing goes, the rm1x (or rs7000) are the best thing to get i think. It's like a cubase in hardware. (mpc for live)

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Originally posted by Tom_cowan As for drums use reason, its better than ne drum machine(in my opinion).

I prity much master the reason redrum but take for example the professional trance makers ( tiesto, dumonde, rank 1 )... ill never be able to make drum loops like that with reason, what do they use ??!

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Originally posted by coby I prity much master the reason redrum but take for example the professional trance makers ( tiesto, dumonde, rank 1 )... ill never be able to make drum loops like that with reason, what do they use ??!

A very expensive studio with loads of synths and samplers

Dont use the redrum, use the nn19 for each drum sound, buy a drum sample cd n use effects over each drum sound. By effects i dont just mean reverb and delay. Use the filter on the nn19, applying an lfo over it can work well, fuk around with the pitch to and layer drum sounds over the top of each other running the same patterns. Try and aim for drum loops which are thick and complex and where you cant pick out specific drum sounds when a tune is at its peak. Its possible to make proffesional drums! Airbase does it!

If you're running a pc, use cubase as a mixer/sequencer and if you're running a mac, use logic. Don't use logic on a pc cos Macintosh bought out emagic and logic will no longer be available on pc, which means you won't be able to upgrade

I got logic 5.2 on my pc ...



OK thanks.. ill try out all the stuff u said

get nordlead!

old synths also

if you're stuck in your budget ... just use synth units


for recording:

logic audio

cubase

depends on what you like most

since you have LOGIC .. don't get a sampler because the ESX24 thats comes with Logic can read akai CDS, GIGA, and Sounfonts but definitly look into geting a virus or a waldorf.

Is there anyway of converting AKAI sampler files to Reason NN19 or NNXT files?

Actually yea i think so. Im not certain but to make reasons refills all you need is each wav for c2,c3,c5 and ect... right? Well with a progam called CDXtract 4.0 you can take any sample format Akai,Giga,Soundfonts,MPC,ESX24,SampleCell,Pulsar STS,Kurzweil. And convert them into all of the above formats or wav & Aiff. Hope that answers your question.

Also in the future A program called Chicken Systems Translator said they will suport it. Here a qoute from the web page,so keep a eye on there page. http://www.chickensys.com/translator/

"The Reason format is encrypted and compressed; thus we need the help of Propellerheads to write in the Reason or the ReFill formats. We are still in process of attempting to get this information."

Shut up

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Originally posted by hey cheggy Don't use logic on a pc cos Macintosh bought out emagic and logic will no longer be available on pc, which means you won't be able to upgrade

That is the stupidest thing I have ever seen here. Shut up when you do not know what you are talking about. Apple bought it, not ''macintosh'' AND they will keep the PC products. Pros use Mac for audio stuff so it will only be better to have Apple putting money on this soft. PLEASE shut up
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i didnt read this thread, but all I can tell you is that it ends up being very expensive.

I got my supernova and then found out my pc was too slow and not enough ram to run my sequencer so I had to buy a new computer (sonar easily uses 400+ mb ram for stable preformance using 30 tracks of combined midi and 96.24 audio).

Then, I found out my sound quality wasnt the greatest, recording off my synth. so i needed a new sound card (m-audio delta 44).

Then I needed a keyboard to play it on.

Then I needed a midi to usb device.

and so on and so on, so just know what you're getting yourself into.


and all I can recommend is to not buy a hardware drum machine, its a waste of money (trust me, I have one) use software like reason for drums. and sample CDs are always good to have.

hope this helps

but this is not to discourage you. there are tons of sounds that you just can't get from software.

my supernova was probably the best purchase I've made in a long time.

Re: Shut up

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Originally posted by Orionman That is the stupidest thing I have ever seen here. Shut up when you do not know what you are talking about. Apple bought it, not ''macintosh'' AND they will keep the PC products. Pros use Mac for audio stuff so it will only be better to have Apple putting money on this soft. PLEASE shut up ... . .

Actually, it is true that Logic will only continue on the Mac platform and no new versions of Logic will appear for PC.

BTW in the old days Mac was better than PC for music...but today, it's more of a matter of taste, or what you are used to.

Dj chrono what's wrong with the korg er 1 ? Did you fully explore it? My mate s got one and it seems very powerfull, some really crazy noizes and usefull drum sounds. I think it 's a very good source for drum sounds that have a little bit more punch then the "average".
Correct me if i'm wrong on this one

from what i saw it looks good... Has a nice interface

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