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Anyone here excited for it? Looks every interesting to use since they switched up the whole user interface. While some things may be similar it's a big jump from Windows 7. And also since Windows 7 had to fix all the problems from Windows Vista... I was just getting used to it, now the flipped the bitch all over again. There are a few things it seems they need to fix as in user interaction, finding buttons etc but it also looks like it moves very smoothly. There's a video on engadget that shows W8 on an 82" screen that resembles Minority Report. Pretty awesome!


Tablets will become a big part in home integration, as you can see the whole METRO interface is continued throughout Windows mobile, tablets, 8 and Xbox Live.

I love their new custom font, thank god they didn't resort to Helvetica...


They have also removed the 'Start' button... or placed it elsewhere.




Windows 8 Consumer Preview



'Charms' aka widgets / icons (located on the far right of the menu)

Its mostly cosmetic changes.

The usual security tweaks have been made, as well as advanced power saving features.

There is a quick start up feature that can be enabled that will make boot times much quicker. Essentially, all boot services will hibernate on RAM or the HDD instead of completely shutting off.

The kernel itself though is more or less the windows 7 kernel which was a refined version of the Vista kernel.

Most of the tweaks were made to be more receptive to the touchscreen/tablet-centric demographic that we are shifting to.

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Originally posted by feelgood Its mostly cosmetic changes. The usual security tweaks have been made, as well as advanced power saving features. There is a quick start up feature that can be enabled that will make boot times much quicker. Essentially, all boot services will hibernate on RAM or the HDD instead of completely shutting off. The kernel itself though is more or less the windows 7 kernel which was a refined version of the Vista kernel. Most of the tweaks were made to be more receptive to the touchscreen/tablet-centric demographic that we are shifting to.

If it's geared to better accommodate a touch device, it would be great if it was able to run om my iPad.

I'm still running XP lol

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Originally posted by Prometheus Xex If it's geared to better accommodate a touch device, it would be great if it was able to run om my iPad.

lol are you serious?

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Originally posted by feelgood The kernel itself though is more or less the windows 7 kernel which was a refined version of the Vista kernel.

Are you sure about that? Win8 now supports ARM, which makes me think that there was a lot more development.

Can't wait for the ARM version to drop, and have it ported to my transformer prime.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol are you serious?

Yep. It would be complete integration to all my Windows based computers. I already have an iPad and don't wish to get another touch pad.

I haven't been excited for anything Microsoft since Windows 95 which imo is the last time they actually showed an attempt at innovation. The company doesn't take risks. Just does the minimum changes required to have their customers purchase a new product (not making new and old compatible of course). Prolonging the monopoly and milking their license cow are their only goals in my eyes.

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Originally posted by Dior Homme I love their new custom font, thank god they didn't resort to Helvetica...

Fairly sure they've been using Segoe for at least three years now.. Still looks awesome IMO.

(side note, every UI I actively use is Helvetica.. Nothing wrong with Helvetica. )

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Originally posted by Jer Fairly sure they've been using Segoe for at least three years now.. Still looks awesome IMO. (side note, every UI I actively use is Helvetica.. Nothing wrong with Helvetica. )

Ya there isn't anything wrong with it, although every designer thinks its the best font to use because they can't think of anything else = no creativity.

wow notepad lol

Bing sucks balls

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Originally posted by Prometheus Xex Yep. It would be complete integration to all my Windows based computers. I already have an iPad and don't wish to get another touch pad.

I'd expect to see the 2nd coming of Christ before seeing any Apple products support a PC operating system

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Originally posted by jon jon Bing sucks balls

Its not as good as google maps but their aerial and birds eye make up for it. Using both map engines are amazing! Love being a consumer haha.

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Originally posted by kotsy I'd expect to see the 2nd coming of Christ before seeing any Apple products support a PC operating system

Could always be the hope of a jail break + os replacement to make it work. Not likely, but could happen. iPads have been hacked to run linux - so I wouldn't put it completely out of the realm of possibility.

Just because Apple wouldn't support it, doesn't mean that it can't be done.

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Originally posted by kotsy I'm still running XP lol

lol I've had a Windows 7 cd (student discount) for over a year now. I keep forgetting to load it up... It's the process of backing everything up that has postponed it and now Windows 8 coming out. Oh well I'll get around to it eventually lol

Look like I'll be waiting for windows 9. It seems as if win 8 is a stepping stone to win 9; a warm up for a really big change.

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Originally posted by kaniz Could always be the hope of a jail break + os replacement to make it work. Not likely, but could happen. iPads have been hacked to run linux - so I wouldn't put it completely out of the realm of possibility. Just because Apple wouldn't support it, doesn't mean that it can't be done.

Agreed.

Who gives a shit if Apple likes it or not.

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Originally posted by itikia It seems as if win 8 is a stepping stone to win 9; a warm up for a really big change.

and win 9 is a stepping stone for win x

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Originally posted by Orko Are you sure about that? Win8 now supports ARM, which makes me think that there was a lot more development. Can't wait for the ARM version to drop, and have it ported to my transformer prime.

My understanding is that it will use an emulator or something when it comes to ARM processors, and functionality will be limited. I read it off a TomsHardware article a little while ago. Ill see if i can track it down.


PS- all you folk still on XP, make the jump to windows 7... the user experience is a million times better.

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Originally posted by feelgood PS- all you folk still on XP, make the jump to windows 7... the user experience is a million times better.

Werd, I skipped Vista for 7. It's a great platform although I seem to use the Windows 95 theme for some reason lol.

BTW speaking of themes... the original Winamp skin is by far the best. Its amazing how that skin hasn't changed since I first started using it.

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Originally posted by GGM I haven't been excited for anything Microsoft since Windows 95 which imo is the last time they actually showed an attempt at innovation. The company doesn't take risks. Just does the minimum changes required to have their customers purchase a new product (not making new and old compatible of course). Prolonging the monopoly and milking their license cow are their only goals in my eyes.

No innovation? Riiighht.

You have heard of a little thing called Visual Studio right? Kinect maybe?

I really like the direction they are taking with Windows8. UI's have gotten too complicated as have the programs themselves. The average user does not need the amount of config, and options that are provided by modern operating systems. That's why I am happy to use Android for a lot if my needs.

The stuff coming out MS's research lab is pretty damn cool.

I held a win8 slate a couple of months ago, the Samsung hardware was really, really nice.

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Originally posted by Orko No innovation? Riiighht. You have heard of a little thing called Visual Studio right? Kinect maybe? I really like the direction they are taking with Windows8. UI's have gotten too complicated as have the programs themselves. The average user does not need the amount of config, and options that are provided by modern operating systems. That's why I am happy to use Android for a lot if my needs. The stuff coming out MS's research lab is pretty damn cool. I held a win8 slate a couple of months ago, the Samsung hardware was really, really nice.

Not trying to say they're absolutely useless for innovation, they wouldn't be alive if that was the case. I'm just saying for a company their size they don't contribute to evolution nearly as much as competitors. They're much happier buying a company with an innovative breakthrough, copying a company's innovative product, or suing them and getting a chunk of $ through their insane list of patents. Just compare their product innovation in the last 10 years to that of Google or Apple...

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Originally posted by feelgood PS- all you folk still on XP, make the jump to windows 7... the user experience is a million times better.

I use XP at home and 7 at work and honestly prefer XP cause I find things a bit more simplistic in a good way. Like taking three clicks to get something done where in 7 it might take five. 7 is definitely more aesthetic and has a nice interface for everything but if it was a cost for me to upgrade from XP to 7 I wouldn't bother.

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Originally posted by GGM Not trying to say they're absolutely useless for innovation, they wouldn't be alive if that was the case. I'm just saying for a company their size they don't contribute to evolution nearly as much as competitors. They're much happier buying a company with an innovative breakthrough, copying a company's innovative product, or suing them and getting a chunk of $ through their insane list of patents. Just compare their product innovation in the last 10 years to that of Google or Apple...

When your core customers are businesses, you have to more 'stable'. In the consumer market, you are right, they are behind. But like I said, there is a reason, and I can understand it.

Product integration, and upgrade cycles suck.

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