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Posted by Nerologic on Mar-01-2012 04:23:

Gas prices...

I mean really???

This fucking SUCKS for us that have long commutes.

I drive everywhere I drive about 20/25k miles a year. Sometimes more, this freaking SUCKS!


Posted by DjWoody on Mar-01-2012 04:36:

Over the weekend I saw a Chevron gas station in China Town that had $5.15 REGULAR!!!! $5.35 PREMIUM!!!!! OUCH!!!!! Believe it or not, there was people in line waiting to fill up their tanks!!!




Posted by RobertStern on Mar-01-2012 04:37:

This ain't nothin, get ready for $6+ by August


Posted by djjoshuaallen on Mar-01-2012 05:14:

election year. GOP pulling some strings just in time for november!!


Posted by Nerologic on Mar-01-2012 05:44:

quote:
Originally posted by RobertStern
This ain't nothin, get ready for $6+ by August


If I was a gambling man, I would put all my money against this.

There's no way 87 is going to cost 6 bucks a gallon where I live. Its just a hair over 4 bucks right now.

That's a HUGE difference, Wall Street can't be that greedy to make the prices go that high? Or can they?


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Mar-01-2012 05:50:

i foresee an expensive summer. generally always occurs. I just hope it's not as expensive as previous years.


Posted by trojans14 on Mar-01-2012 06:13:

You guys in Southern California need better public transportation especially considering LA is the second biggest city in the country. Just sayin.


Posted by Quazar on Mar-01-2012 06:15:

quote:
Originally posted by trojans14
You guys in Southern California need better public transportation especially considering LA is the second biggest city in the country. Just sayin.

LA had the most extensive streetcar network in the world at one point. Then General Motors bought it all up and declared the personal automobile and highways the "way of the future". >_<


Posted by trojans14 on Mar-01-2012 06:25:

^That was very very poor foresight on LA's part for agreeing to that. And very very greedy of GM to do that. smh


Posted by Nerologic on Mar-01-2012 06:51:

One word why many major cities in the US don't have good public transportation.

Big oil.

All those HUGE hundred billion dollar companies and even the small tens if billions of dollar oil companies are the reason why we don't have sufficient mass transportation AND why we don't have an alternative fuel source.

We have progressed an infinite amount since the oil crises of the 70's. Since then, programs for alternate fuel get the plug pulled. People that try to do something on their own and create things on their own and start to look promising get CRUSHED by big oil. Those companies are either bought out and destroyed, or are buried by so much legal paperwork they go bankrupt and give up.

We have known for over 50/60 years (forgot the exact number) that we can run cars on hydrogen/water, ethanol/corn, alcohol, etc etc. We have also known since then our oil supply is finite, and would eventually end. Point is, we could have EASILY perfected one of those alternate fuels to be used in new cars that would run on them. But why haven't we? That's the fucking burn of it all....


Posted by raveed on Mar-01-2012 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
election year. GOP pulling some strings just in time for november!!


The real reason seems to be those f-in hedge funds buying up oil contracts, thus betting that oil prices will go up in the future. Obviously the situation in Iran hasn't helped either.

The GOP is just coaxing their lowest common denominator supporters into believing that the Democrats are directly responsible for the price rise as those people have no clue about how gas is priced.


Posted by fantasyexctasy on Mar-01-2012 08:35:

The Republicans are pulling strings to make Obama look bad since he was the one who said no to the Keystone pipeline. People, being the dumbasses that they are, actually think this is all Obama's fault. They think somehow that Obama is going to get on the phone and tell the oil companies "Hey guys, this is Obama, let's lower the price of oil". The GOP knows how to take advantage of people's stupidity.

Back when I took economics, gas was at $4.50 a gallon back in 08 and we discussed this in great detail in the class. Those who say that we should drill don't know how the market works. If there is a surplus, the quantity supplied is reduced to increase the price. The oil companies will just make even more money while nothing happens to the price other than it increases. Until there is a substitute on the market, oil is inelastic and there is nothing we can do except ride our bikes or use public transit. In OC there are a ton of people that I've noticed that started riding their bikes in the past few years.

OCTA was thinking about bringing back the street cars but it was quickly shot down once the recession started and gas crept back to under 1.70 a gallon. However, how can we as the most powerful nation not have a public transportation system like Canada's or Russia's where you can get anywhere in the country in under 10 hours for cheap? Oh wait, lobbyist....


Posted by Apeattack on Mar-01-2012 08:35:

How come no one ever talks about the cost of a gallon of milk.


Posted by fantasyexctasy on Mar-01-2012 08:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Apeattack
How come no one ever talks about the cost of a gallon of milk.

There are far cheaper alternatives out there to still be drinking milk if it hurts your wallet, that's why


Posted by raveed on Mar-01-2012 08:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Apeattack
How come no one ever talks about the cost of a gallon of milk.


The cause for the hike in milk prices isn't nearly as shady as it is for oil prices.

http://www.kleinpeterdairy.com/priceofmilk.html


Posted by djjoshuaallen on Mar-01-2012 18:25:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed

The GOP is just coaxing their lowest common denominator supporters into believing that the Democrats are directly responsible for the price rise as those people have no clue about how gas is priced.


Are they?

Hmmm, sounds familliar.

it must be Bush's fault!


Posted by djjoshuaallen on Mar-01-2012 18:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Apeattack
How come no one ever talks about the cost of a gallon of milk.


good point.

Probably because cars dont run on milk, and your LCD TV doesnt plug into a cows utter.

I can do without a bowl of cereal if shit goes down. Besides, we are the only full grown species on the planet that continues to drink the milk of a mammal throughout adulthood. Its unneccessary for a high quality of life.

PS. I love cheese


Posted by DjWoody on Mar-01-2012 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Apeattack
How come no one ever talks about the cost of a gallon of milk.


In Mexico, the government considers certain foods a necessary. Milk is one of them. When milk producers try to raise the price of milk, people go ape shit and start protesting in the streets.


Posted by fantasyexctasy on Mar-01-2012 20:27:

Dairy increases your chances to get cancer tremendously. They are using the RGB hormones in cows nowadays that is causing unique health problems in this country. RGB wasn't meant for human consumption and mutates cells when consumed regularly.

People want to make fun of vegans, but from first hand experience when I worked in the gastrointestinal lab at the hospital, the vegans had byfar the healthiest digestive tract I've seen. A 50 year old man came in and had the lining of a 14 year old, after we woke him up, the doctor informed him of his amazing health. The guy was emphatically telling us "see that's why you should go vegan, I've been vegan for 20 years". There were numerous patients we had that shocked me when I saw how healthy their colon, intestines and stomach were and when I looked at their charts they all said vegan on them. Then there were people in their late 20s that had polyps already forming, something you normally don't see until your 40s. I decided after seeing all the first hand facts that I really should cut meat and milk out of my diet. Eventually I phased it out and now I'm vegan for these health reasons. Watch the movie Forks over Knives, I guarantee you will at least reconsider what foods you do and do not eat.

You want milk, just drink rice milk. It tastes better than cow milk anyway


Posted by raveed on Mar-01-2012 21:04:

quote:
Originally posted by fantasyexctasy
Dairy increases your chances to get cancer tremendously. They are using the RGB hormones in cows nowadays that is causing unique health problems in this country. RGB wasn't meant for human consumption and mutates cells when consumed regularly.


Or you can buy your milk "organic". Aside from being safer, organic milk lasts considerably longer than non organic milk too.


Posted by djjoshuaallen on Mar-01-2012 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by fantasyexctasy


You want milk, just drink rice milk. It tastes better than cow milk anyway


giving up milk is easy (soy works fine). Its the cheese part that is difficult.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Mar-01-2012 21:47:

i LOVE milk. can't live without it. i go through a gallon a week. i know its bad n all... but i just love it too much.

i won't a eat a cookie, piece of cake or anything unless i have a glass of milk with it.

if anyone needs cheaper gas... i have plenty of it for free


Posted by fantasyexctasy on Mar-01-2012 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
Or you can buy your milk "organic". Aside from being safer, organic milk lasts considerably longer than non organic milk too.


They still have the hormone in the cows from birth as the mom's hormones transfer over in the umbilical cord during pregnancy. They say organic, but it just means the food they eat has no synthetic pesticides. They still use pesticides (especially a carcinogen like argon) on anything that says organic on the label, it's one of the biggest misleading labels ever. They've tried to sue many times to have organic labels that use organic pesticides to put on their labels that they use pesticides still, but our good old friends at Monsanto fought this and won. Sickening


Posted by jonmitz on Mar-01-2012 22:00:

, h

for $100, gas price fluctuations are due to the instability of what region? remember your answer must be in the form of a question





e: IIRC, the current situation in Iran has been affecting the EU gas pricing (maybe not anymore, someone from EU would have to comment) but not in the US because we dont buy iranian oil, however the actual pricing of oil changes due to the situation in iran, which is quite possible one of the drives for the recent $.20-$.40 increases


Posted by fantasyexctasy on Mar-02-2012 00:48:

You forgot to put Venezuela, Canada, Russia, Norway and Alaska on that map. US only gets about 6% of our from the middle east, most of out comes from Canada


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