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People that make soundsets.

don't want to get into why you shouldn't use them but every sound set seems to focus on the same lead bass pad and all sound the same.

The actual sounds that make something interesting are those types of evolving sounds/ fx that don't have a melody. I suppose it is harder to demonstrate as part of the sound is the ability to manipulate the parameters but it is really quite silly that sound designers keep releasing the same sounds over and over and over.

the last thing the world needs is another pluck , or saw lead. Its all the same shit being rehashed and released with no change.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney don't want to get into why you shouldn't read them but every post seems to focus on the same TA members and all sound the same. The actual threads that make something interesting are those types of posts that have a point and/or some comedy. I suppose it is harder to demonstrate as part of the post is the ability to manipulate the complaints but it is really quite silly that I keep posting the same bitches, moans, and complaints over and over and over. the last thing the world needs is another Raphie sucks, or your taste in music sucks, or anything you do or like sucks, or your idea for a project sucks, or your mixing ability sucks thread. Its all the same shit being rehashed and released with no change.

Yup, I think we get it now. Everything everybody else does is wrong. It used to be somewhat amusing, but it's gotten stale and you've become a caricature of yourself. Time for some new material.

ever consider the reason i have these opinions is that on the contrary it is everything you guys do that is boring the fuck out of me ?

I mean every fucking soundset posted on here is the same. A pluck, a saw lead. Do you not stop and think, wait , i've heard this somewhere, oh ya, on every fucking synth made in the last 10 years. Maybe i should make stuff that isn't already done.

honestly, i just don't get why people bother making stuff that is already there and not just once, but like 50 fucking times.

Why is every soundset the same. To the point that it is kinda funny.

Re: People that make soundsets.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney don't want to get into why you shouldn't use them but every sound set seems to focus on the same lead bass pad and all sound the same. The actual sounds that make something interesting are those types of evolving sounds/ fx that don't have a melody. I suppose it is harder to demonstrate as part of the sound is the ability to manipulate the parameters but it is really quite silly that sound designers keep releasing the same sounds over and over and over. the last thing the world needs is another pluck , or saw lead. Its all the same shit being rehashed and released with no change.

If people wanna keep buying it, i'll keep selling it. It's not an artistic statement from me.

Saying that, I honestly believe I tried to do something different with mine, and that was what a lot of feedback I received stated as well.

well if you look at EDM in the last few years, the tracks that are cutting edge are the ones that have sounds you wouldn't really classify as lead or bass or pluck. THey are the types of sounds that are rhytmic and evolving in nature. But every soundset is made up of stale sounds that do nothing but I suppose given a nice chord progression , most idiots will think its awesome.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney well if you look at EDM in the last few years, the tracks that are cutting edge are the ones that have sounds you wouldn't really classify as lead or bass or pluck. THey are the types of sounds that are rhytmic and evolving in nature. But every soundset is made up of stale sounds that do nothing but I suppose given a nice chord progression , most idiots will think its awesome.

When I finally decide to make a kickass dance track i'll definitely looking for that killer lead that's at least somewhat new. I won't be putting in a soundset for somebody else to fuck about with first though

But yeah that ramirez stab lead thing was a perfect example of a simple sound killing it.

I can't say that I make many original sounds myself, and I've been doing it a looooong time (not that it necessarily makes me an expert). I think that much of the problem is that there is a fine line between usable and unusable and much of the usable range of subtractive synths has been explored ad nauseum. Change will come from pushing the boundary of the usable/unusable range, and/or by exploring other synthesis types (e.g., additive, granular, spectral, sample-based, etc.). Actually, IMO too many soundbanks, particularly factory soundbanks, include too much content that I would never use, or even want to hear, in a song because it's just there to show off the synth's capabilities and the designer wasn't able to balance that with creating something that was actually musically useful.

Are people actually making money pushing out these generic soundbanks? I guess if you're Deadmau5 people will gobble it up, but what about joe shmoe the sound designer?

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Originally posted by dinyab Are people actually making money pushing out these generic soundbanks? I guess if you're Deadmau5 people will gobble it up, but what about joe shmoe the sound designer?

You not going to become milliner from those soundbanks but you can still make few K a year if you have right product, I know that for fact.

Cheers,

Darek

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Originally posted by dinyab Are people actually making money pushing out these generic soundbanks? I guess if you're Deadmau5 people will gobble it up, but what about joe shmoe the sound designer?

Good question. I know that guys like Alanzo (TA member) had a pay-what-you-want (or nothing at all) approach and, from what I recall, he actually made some decent cash on the side from it. That's the approach I would take if/when I ever get around to finishing a bank of my own. And, yes, mine would likely fall in the not-so-original, bread-n-butter variety of sounds category. I'm betting that more people will buy that than a bank full of highly creative and original, but largely unusable sounds.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney ever consider the reason i have these opinions is that on the contrary it is everything you guys do that is boring the fuck out of me ?

But your'e no better yourself, you have NO more orignal worthwhile talent than the rest. You are us.

lol

how many times do i need to tell you and others that I compose as a profession. I have about 10 hours of music done in the last 2 years.

So no , i'm not like you. I have a degrees from the best schools on the planet. So just on an academic level , i mean the shit i know about all things audio and music would make you feel rather small. Now combine that with my professional experience, ya, not really you.

What i know, you coudn't spend the rest of your life coming close to knowing. And i make a good living at a young age. So really, this narrative is getting old. Its like you don't fucking listen.

If you are me, then

you have worked on 40+ million $ movies.
Worked on 3 syndicated shows on one of the big networks
Have writing credits that charted on the USA billboard
Have had your music performed at Carnegy
Have conducted the NYP
Has people like Yoyoma asking you out for lunch.
Published in one of the bigger music journals.
Have done a bachelor and masters in not just the best but hardest to get into schools
Made 100 000$ after 2 years of being in business and having that number increase every year.
Be retained by a major label.

can you say any of those apply to you ?

i mean fuck off. What i did in the years i put dance on the side is pretty fucking impressive.


what you know and do accounts for say 0.5% of say what i know and do. Not that you aren't entitled to suck but for the love of god, i'm fucking annoyed to have to keep saying this over , and over and over. I've posted enough material,, i and talk the talk on any subject. I mean do you have any idea how hard it is to do get into the shcools i did and finish ? It would be similar to having a PHD in rocket science from MIT. It is actually harder to get into the schools i did than to do a PHD at MIT statistic wise. Kinda annoying when the guy that doesn't know shit , doesn't make shit or a penny off the shit he considers not shit starts to question my credentials, it is lime a plumber trying to talk about physics to the rocket scientist. Its just tacky. It is annoying, its been done and why you must do it again and again is just annoying.

if you are going to insult me, insult my supposed ego, my lack of bedside manner, a darek like pseudo psychoanalysis and how i want to fuck my sister, my lack of what ever it is you think my character has but one think you can't undermine no matter how much you hate me is my ability ., my achievements and my rock hard buttocks.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Its like you don't fucking listen.

We use this forum because we're actively trying to learn and create EDM, while you use it as a soapbox to vent your frustrations to people who don't really want to hear them. I don't know what you expect other than defensiveness considering the way you act around here.

You went on a rant a few days ago about how nobody has their own unique sound because they don't program their own presets. Now you're upset because soundbank designers don't create innovative sounds for other people to use and abuse. Why would you even want them to do that? Who expects groundbreaking innovation from a damn soundbank in the first place?

there was a disclaimer no ? I clearly said i don't endorse the use of presets.

and i never claimed they were not a good learning tool. People post them, i listen, and they all sound the same and i share my opinion which if you had the slightest attention to detail would notice the trend which is more apparent than a black guy in congress. You are making an argument on statements i never made.

My aesthetic is my own and i don't expect people to do the same. People will use presets. That is a given. Now everytime i hear a preset bank posted here , they all , and i mean all sound identical. You are trying to find some logical slip that isn't there so quit trying to undermine something that has nothing to do with the original statement.

easy, killer, I'm just trying to follow your line of reasoning here. if that's the case then it just goes back to you making complaints none of us really want to hear.

richard's comment was a little odd, though, you're not the only one getting sick of people questioning your ability.

Man, this forum never did anything right!

I can't imagine how any of this can stimulate you to work harder and become better producer my self - can anybody?

Darek

Oh hey look, people are tired of L4C again. Watch him leave for a bit now and then come back with another alias down the track. Rinse and repeat.

I still claim Bone4Stallone

I still haven't come up with another one.

everyone is more than welcome to put me on ignore. Honestly, I can reply to my own posts if need be.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney everyone is more than welcome to put me on ignore. Honestly, I can reply to my own posts if need be.

Do that anyway. It was a riot last time.

in my defence the guy deleted his posts. i'm not that funny.

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