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Posted by Lira on Mar-04-2012 19:04:

The telenovela (and Slavoj Zizek!!!) appreciation thread

Slavoj �i�ek once mentioned how an old Brazilian telenovela (The Slave Isaura) was so popular in Slovenia during the communist era that rumours claiming the leading actress was in Ljubljana drew a crowd of thousands of fans in front of a hotel. Unfortunately, Escrava Isaura was shot long before I was born, but our telenovelas are one of the coolest things ever to come out of Brazil (and other Latin American countries, such as Mexico).

But, are you guys into telenovelas? What telenovelas do you know? What is/was popular in your country?

This is Marcos Francisco João Martins Afonso Guimarães de Lira, logging off with hot steamy Latin kisses to all of you. Except to other men. It's too unlatin to kiss a man, so all you guys get is a handshake. With a dirty hand. Macholy.


Posted by Blake on Mar-04-2012 19:30:

I find telanovela's to be absolutely hilarious, most of the time. Everything is so melodramatic and over-acted, it's great.

I hear that the ones shown in South America are boarderline X rated. Is there any truth to that?


Posted by sensorium on Mar-04-2012 19:46:

I have to say you Brazilians have produced some good ones. Xica Da Silva was and still is one of my favorites although some of the props were cheap because of a low budget I suppose. Ta�s Ara�jo is stunning. O Clone was good as well.

Colombia and Mexico are also good producers of telenovelas. Mexico's golden age was in the 80s and 90s though. Lately all have been remakes. Venezuela comes close behind Colombia and Mexico though.

I'm a guy and am proud to say I watch telenovelas.


Posted by stren on Mar-04-2012 20:03:

no Luz Maria for me


Posted by Lira on Mar-04-2012 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Blake
I find telanovela's to be absolutely hilarious, most of the time. Everything is so melodramatic and over-acted, it's great.

Yes!!
quote:
Originally posted by Blake
I hear that the ones shown in South America are boarderline X rated. Is there any truth to that?

Yes!!!
quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
I have to say you Brazilians have produced some good ones. Xica Da Silva was and still is one of my favorites although some of the props were cheap because of a low budget I suppose. Ta�s Ara�jo is stunning. O Clone was good as well.

O Clone was quite popular around here because it had, in a really simplified way, covered some of the debates about biogenetics that were being discussed here in that time (because of Dolly, the sheep).
quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
Colombia and Mexico are also good producers of telenovelas. Mexico's golden age was in the 80s and 90s though. Lately all have been remakes. Venezuela comes close behind Colombia and Mexico though.

Colombia, really? I had no idea. Mexican novelas used to be quite popular around here, with "Maria Del Barrio", "Marimar" and "Maria Mercedez" being broadcast one after the other in one of our main TV channels. I used to find them hilarious
quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
I'm a guy and am proud to say I watch telenovelas.

I have definitely watched more telenovelas than sitcoms and similar TV series in my life, that's for sure


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Mar-04-2012 20:36:

Telenovelas were very popular around here, all the grandmas watched it. I think Esmeralda was the first one that got shown here, and people even made jokes about it ("What's green and bumps into walls?"). Natalia Oreiro was also well known and even visited Czech rep. a few times.

I thought it was all a huge pile of shit back then, but I'm sure I'd now laugh uncontrollably to parts of it if I had the courage to watch it.


Posted by Meat187 on Mar-04-2012 20:40:

Stop it Lira. The joke is overplayed now. A while ago it was quite hilarious how you pretended to have the worst possible taste regarding TV and movies. But now it has just become boring and isn't funny anymore.


Posted by Lira on Mar-04-2012 21:04:

Hey, it's something I'm actually proud of! It's not like we have awesome TV series or something... though there are some really funny ones:





Besides, I never said they were good. Quite on the contrary, that's the best thing about them!


Posted by Meat187 on Mar-04-2012 21:53:

Somewhere I read that Joanie loves Chachi was also broadcast in Korea and extremely popular there. The reason, however, was that Chachi is the Korean word for penis.

I'm pretty sure I later read it wasn't true, but the point really is that my anecdote is cooler than Slavoj Zizek's. How can people listen to that ridiculous accent anyway?


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Mar-04-2012 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
How can people listen to that ridiculous accent anyway?


You learn to love it. And so on and so on.

Jesus, we need a �i�ek thread.


Posted by Lira on Mar-05-2012 00:12:

Yes, we need!
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Somewhere I read that Joanie loves Chachi was also broadcast in Korea and extremely popular there. The reason, however, was that Chachi is the Korean word for penis.

Actually, 차치 is the Korean word for "besides/aside". Close enough, Fleisch
quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
I'm pretty sure I later read it wasn't true, but the point really is that my anecdote is cooler than Slavoj Zizek's. How can people listen to that ridiculous accent anyway?

Listen to what he's saying. He's marvellous: Insightful, funny, creative... and even if you disagree with the things he say and you don't find his arguments compelling, you're probably going to change the way you see the problem he's talking about.

OH YEAH, THIS IS NOW A ZIZEK APPRECIATION THREAD!!!


Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-05-2012 00:16:

I have no idea what any of this is.


Posted by Lira on Mar-05-2012 00:22:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
I have no idea what any of this is.

Telenovela: Latin American Soap Opera
Slavoj Zizek: Slovenia's Awesomest export along with Laibach.



By the way, Meat: Laibach > Mo-Do



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