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Suggestions for a 'special' dynamics VST.

I'm not sure what I want actualy exists in software.

So far in terms of dynamics (compressors) I have TRACS Deluxe and the full SSL range.
Whilst both are quite nice, I'm looking for something more, somtheing that adds an artisan special quality to bass, in paricular the very low end.

Budget �150 (possibly more) for a sinlge product (does not have to be a suite of products like TRACS or the SSL bundle).


Anyway, if you had �150 or so for any individual processor, something you might consider the creme dela creme of compressors, what would you go for?

I tried Cytomic the glue, mmm, ok, nothing that great.
Max Bass (or is it R Bass) won't do it.

Re: Suggestions for a 'special' dynamics VST.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler I'm not sure what I want actualy exists in software. So far in terms of dynamics (compressors) I have TRACS Deluxe and the full SSL range. Whilst both are quite nice, I'm looking for something more, somtheing that adds an artisan special quality to bass, in paricular the very low end. Budget �150 (possibly more) for a sinlge product (does not have to be a suite of products like TRACS or the SSL bundle). Anyway, if you had �150 or so for any individual processor, something you might consider the creme dela creme of compressors, what would you go for? I tried Cytomic the glue, mmm, ok, nothing that great. Max Bass (or is it R Bass) won't do it.

Maxx Bass and R Bass are 2 different plugins, they introduce harmonics there not compressors.

You looking for something to colour the sound?
The PSP vintage warmers colours a sound, but maybe you should try subtle saturation and see if you can get the result your after.

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Originally posted by Julz You looking for something to colour the sound? The PSP vintage warmers colours a sound, but maybe you should try subtle saturation and see if you can get the result your after.

I guess I am looking for colouration and compression. I have the TRACS Pulteq and Fairchild, they're so so.

I was wondering if people have experience of these models on low bass;

Elysia Alpha compressor or mpressor

Bluetubes (Nomad factory)

Tubetech CLB1 (I understand this was in powercore, but I never heard anyone rave about it)

Sonnox - is all old hat now?

you are looking for a saturation plugin. Try the FF MB distortion.

I use blue tubes eq's frequently to boost the mids (just by a dB or 2), it adds some great presence overall.

Re: Suggestions for a 'special' dynamics VST.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler I tried Cytomic the glue, mmm, ok, nothing that great.

The Glue is not designed as a bass compressor - it's an emulation of the SSL buss compressor and its primary purpose is to glue mixes/submixes together, not as a bass enhancer. This leads me to wonder if you just need to get a better handle on the compressors that you have now before continuing your seemingly unending chase for the perfect kick/bass.

But, that said, I find any of the Waves Renaissance compressors to work very nicely on synth basses. Another plugin to try is the new FabFilter Saturn - it's a multiband saturation/distortion, but it also does compression and bass enhancement. Fully functional, 30-day no restriction demo available on their website.

Edit: just realized that L4C recommended the Saturn plugin above already.

have you tried splitting your bass into multi bands and applying artifact inducing fx ie bitcrushing, disortion and even doubling your bass with noise ran thru a cab or with bitcrushing as well.

honestly., this isn't a mixing thing but a sound design thing. Listen to the stuff you like and try to hear what they have that yours doesn't.

maybe PSP MixBass or the MixSaturator

vintage warmer.

As the lads said, try that new fabfilter plugin, its quite nice on bass

DISTRESSOR

Cakewalk Vintage Channel

Change bass patch?

I'd agree that it's probably not compression that you're looking for but saturation. Saturn is good because it's multiband so you don't have to saturate the very low end, which can muddy things up.

As for compressors, I'd take a look at H-Comp from Waves as it just does things a little differently and bites quite hard. It's also very much geared towards teh dance market with an extra transient shaping knob and release that can be synced to track tempo or fractions of.

It's also on sale for $99 with H-Delay (which is also very good) in March, so I'd grab that anyway if I were you.

Oh, and if you have T-Racks, do you have the Pultec emilation in there? That can do magical things with low end as well.

I'm really for the less is more aproach
Change source, use volume, maybe a bit of compression and very little eq to make it fit in the mix. The only thing more processing does is smearing the sound, creating "rich" dynamics/harmonics, which imho do not increase presence but just smear the whole mix. The problem nowadays is that people think having a patch that works is "wrong" and you need to do at least stack 5 processings op top to make it pro.
Your "presence" is the EQ, filters, chorus etc options in your synth. Exhaust them first before slapping anything on top. Just my 2cts... Just keeping on mangling is so 2012.

There was a plugin from wave alchemy used by Sean Tyas and others for the bass i've heard wonders about it i remember searching for it but was a bit pricey and i didn't get it finally. It is what you are searching for, it adds color and dynamics to the bass.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos There was a plugin from wave alchemy...

Wave Alchemy doesn't make any plugins that I'm aware of. Are you thinking of Wave Arts? Tube Saturator???

It's nice, but FF Saturn is much better IMO.

waves rbass vst plugin or waves renaissance vst plugin it's called i think Tyas uses the second www.waves.com i just use a limiter on bass with some specific settings as a saturation plugin so can't tell which one is better.

Melda Bundle.

Try washeshapers. They are so versatile. They can act as a compressor, add warmth, a bit crusher, distortion. The melda bundle is rather neat in that everything they do is multi band.

also, the recent abbey console clone from waves is great for distortion. Which they had a version that had a wet/dry ratio.

I spend time sometimes just using a basic synth sound and experimenting with plugins creating chains you can use later on. Sort of like making patches for your synth.

Basically just load up 10 or so plugins. And fuck around.

Yo, am I the only person who realizes this thread is over a year old?

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Originally posted by Kyle_Jefferson Yo, am I the only person who realizes this thread is over a year old?

we love discussing things over and over, then you notice someone has change his mind with the time lapse and you can call them hypocrite.

Just noticed this old thread came back to life.

In the end I went for R-Bass but the license and so on kept fucking about and I got sick of it, will not deal with WAVES again.

Have not bought any fx since then.

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Originally posted by Kyle_Jefferson Yo, am I the only person who realizes this thread is over a year old?

nu year nu plugins yo

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