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Posted by Meat187 on Mar-30-2012 11:37:

::::::::. **** TA Genre Challenge, Round 6 **** .::::::::

Round 1
Round 2
Round 3
Round 4
Round 5

OK guys, as requested here's round 6. I guess you know the rules by now. If you don't, read the copypasta below.
Be sure to post some interesting genres and not obscure or boring crap. If I see Dubstep or Deep House in here I'll just replace them with Happy Hardcore and Para Para.
I also made a deal with Sushipunk that everyone who fails to deliver his mix in time will be permanently banned from TA.

And here's the extended version:

Step 1: Registration
If you want to participate post in this thread and name a genre that you want to include in the challenge. This must be a genre that is not already named by another participant. Use only EDM genres and don't select anything extremely weird, rare or specific. I'll keep an updated list of accepted people and genres. You can't add a genre without participating or participate without adding a genre. Also, post in such a way that your intentions are clear.
Registration will be open until next Friday (06.04.) 13:00 (UTC+1:00).

Step 2: Drawing
After the registration closes there will be 24 hours of time when you may do two things:
1) Withdraw from the challenge. (If you don't like the genre list, are too busy, entered accidentally, etc.)
2) If you have successfully participated in a previous round you can name one genre from the list you do not want to mix. I'll consider this in the drawing.
Entering is not possible anymore in this stage. The drawing will be posted on Saturday (07.04) 13:00 (UTC+1:00).

Step 3: Mixing
Your mix should be between 30 and 80 minutes long. The deadline for submitting them is 4 weeks, on Saturday, 05.05.2012
You're also supposed to offer the person who'll mix the genre you brought in some help if required and give him a short feedback on how well he did.


Posted by Meat187 on Mar-30-2012 11:38:

Drawing:


Posted by djdk on Mar-30-2012 12:11:

Ok I'll start: loopy, repetitive and funky techno

I hope thats not too specific, Im sure you know what I mean. Not dark, bleak mechanical stuff. The kind of techno with big basslines and loopy tribal rhythmns that make you shake yo ass.

If you need an example of exactly what Im on about try this.


Posted by Woony on Mar-30-2012 12:18:

@djdk
might as well say 1995-2005 (purpose maker - rise of mnml) Techno

Oh shiit. I'll say future garage. I'd like to say original UK garage but that stuff is too hard to aquire properly.


Posted by djdk on Mar-30-2012 12:26:

I bow to your superior techno knowledge!

To be fair, everytime Ive ever seen anyone play future garage theyve busted out a few old speed garage tunes anyway so one would hope a future garage set would, ironically, contain some old school garage


Posted by Woony on Mar-30-2012 12:31:

Originally I wanted to say UK-bass in general but I want to give other people the chance to name a genre from that field. I think with the right person a UK-bass-house mix could be pretty interesting.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-30-2012 12:38:

quote:
Originally posted by djdk
Ok I'll start: loopy, repetitive and funky techno

I hope thats not too specific, Im sure you know what I mean. Not dark, bleak mechanical stuff. The kind of techno with big basslines and loopy tribal rhythmns that make you shake yo ass.

If you need an example of exactly what Im on about try this.


Also, montana already did a mix of this stuff for his "schranz" mix, although probably a bit harder than what you have in mind: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...21#post10549021

edit: Changed my mind, as it'll be a nightmare to work out what exactly "uk bass" or whatever encompasses. I'll go with italo disco instead.


Posted by Woony on Mar-30-2012 12:45:

Isn't italo disco also a bitch to find? And if you say 'UK-bass-house' or 'UK-experimental-step' I think it's a pretty clear definition of what is meant. Even if otherwise, what's the problem with having a bit of freedom with your genre?


Posted by Meat187 on Mar-30-2012 12:51:

quote:
Originally posted by djdk
Ok I'll start: loopy, repetitive and funky techno

I hope thats not too specific, Im sure you know what I mean. Not dark, bleak mechanical stuff. The kind of techno with big basslines and loopy tribal rhythmns that make you shake yo ass.

If you need an example of exactly what Im on about try this.


Could you give me something that is more of a genre name and not a description?
I have no clue about techno, but I'm afraid people might not know what to do with "loopy, repetitive and funky techno" and certainly not hit the sound you're after.


Posted by Woony on Mar-30-2012 12:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Could you give me something that is more of a genre name and not a description?
I have no clue about techno, but I'm afraid people might not know what to do with "loopy, repetitive and funky techno" and certainly not hit the sound you're after.


Jeff-Mills-Techno?

As I've said, for like a decade almost all Techno sounded like this.


Posted by djdk on Mar-30-2012 13:00:

Hmm I was worried you might say that. But then what is a genre name if not a description?

To be honest you could probably call what Im after just techno. But its such a vast genre that I wanted to quantify what I was thinking of a bit more. Anyway, Im quite happy with people to take from it what they will, it'll be interesting to see what comes back!


Posted by Woony on Mar-30-2012 13:03:

I think funky-percussive Techno would be pretty accurate name.


Posted by djdk on Mar-30-2012 13:07:

as an aside I think everyone should listen to that essential mix I linked to cos its fantastic


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-30-2012 13:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Woony
Isn't italo disco also a bitch to find?


I never said anything about "being hard to find". Finding the music is part of the challenge.

quote:

And if you say 'UK-bass-house' or 'UK-experimental-step' I think it's a pretty clear definition of what is meant.


It might be to you, but for someone who doesn't follow that London-centric niche of electronic music, it's probably going to look like two of the most vague and confusing genre descriptions ever, which makes it highly likely that the end result isn't a mix with the sound you had in mind when suggesting a genre.

If you want to be a part of this challenge, you'd do well to think outside of your own element for a second instead of assuming that everyone likes and knows about the same music as you.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-30-2012 13:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
Could you give me something that is more of a genre name and not a description?
I have no clue about techno, but I'm afraid people might not know what to do with "loopy, repetitive and funky techno" and certainly not hit the sound you're after.


Things get problematic when instead of suggesting genres, you suggest a genre's specific sound at a certain point in time, in this case late 90s early 00s before techno had settled fully into minimalism. I think the best way to do this is simply to suggest a genre, and then pitch the kind of sound from the genre you want to the person who eventually will make the mix.


Posted by RJT on Mar-30-2012 13:26:

I'm in. Hard Trance.


Posted by Woony on Mar-30-2012 13:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
I never said anything about "being hard to find". Finding the music is part of the challenge.


Well, finding music is one thing, asking someone to buy a bunch of expensive records off discogs is another thing. But again, there might be some more easy accessible compilations of that stuff, I've got no idea.


quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
It might be to you, but for someone who doesn't follow that London-centric niche of electronic music, it's probably going to look like two of the most vague and confusing genre descriptions ever, which makes it highly likely that the end result isn't a mix with the sound you had in mind when suggesting a genre.


Well, what's the problem with that? I mean if we just throw genre names out there and no accurate descriptions, there's always going to be totally different angles you can take the genre from.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-30-2012 13:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Woony
Well, what's the problem with that? I mean if we just throw genre names out there and no accurate descriptions, there's always going to be totally different angles you can take the genre from.


That pretty much defeats the "challenge" aspect of the genre challenge, namely to operate within fixed genre boundaries that are set by the person who suggests a genre, and that you (hopefully) aren't all that familiar with.


Posted by Woony on Mar-30-2012 13:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
That pretty much defeats the "challenge" aspect of the genre challenge, namely to operate within fixed genre boundaries that are set by the person who suggests a genre, and that you (hopefully) aren't all that familiar with.


My point is, a genre mix can always sound completely different depending on who does it. Like, a Trance mix could try to be as credible as possible or it could just be a full-out cheese mix and it would sound pretty damn different. And I mean even if it's a more ambiguous term like "future garage" there's still some sort of boundary of what you can do.


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-30-2012 13:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Woony
My point is, a genre mix can always sound completely different depending on who does it. Like, a Trance mix could try to be as credible as possible or it could just be a full-out cheese mix and it would sound pretty damn different.


It would still be a trance mix, just with trance that you think sucks. That isn't the same as giving a person a vague as hell description of a "genre", and that person then having more or less carte blanche as to what kind of music the mix will contain. There's little to no challenge in that.


Posted by RJT on Mar-30-2012 14:40:

Should I refrain from mentioning any further genres?

There are certainly a few I'd like to see added, but more because there are corners of the EDM world I feel I'd like to explore than anything else - which kind of flies in the spirit of the whole thing.


Posted by Teezdalien on Mar-30-2012 14:55:

In. Autonomic drum n bass


Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-30-2012 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Should I refrain from mentioning any further genres?


You only get to add one to the mix.


Posted by RJT on Mar-30-2012 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
You only get to add one to the mix.


Noted.


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Mar-30-2012 17:50:

I'm obviously in! :P

Genre: Freestyle ( example )


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