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Good Trance Sample Packs Other Than Vengence??? (Mainly Wanting Good Kick Samples)

Just wanting to see if anyone knows any good trance sample packs other than vengence ones. Im trying to find the perfect kick for my latest track and layering isn't working for me. I've had the Vec1,2&3 packs for a while now and I want to see if theres anything different.

Anyone got any recommendations??

(mainly looking for kicks, but if you know any sample packs that conatain anything else and you highly recommend it, then share that too.)

Cheers,

MH

fuckin... find it yourself you're 15 pay your dues

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Originally posted by meriter fuckin... find it yourself you're 15 pay your dues

i was just asking, if you dont have any suggestions, then dont post. isnt it a waste of time to just go around posting shit like this??

pay your dues like... he doesn't deserve any proper advice? basically, he has certain sample packs and has been auditioning a bunch of them to fit his bassline which sounds decent, instead of wasting time layering. but after about 30 or so samples his ears get a little toast.

Ubershall trance, the vengeance trance sample packs are a good start. others here will definitely have other and possibly better suggestions. also, shortening the kick can also let the bassline come through quite a bit better since some kicks in those sample packs have very long tails if you just insert them raw the way they are.

meriter, don't be such a dick. i started in this forum when i was 17 and i sure as hell didn't let some guy who has only been hanging around here 2 years talk shit to me the way you are trolling this kid, and there were plenty of helpful people back then, so give us a break please with your lame ass attitude.

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Originally posted by Evolve140 only been hanging around here 2 years

not too good with math are you


Honestly you think the samples are the problem... like the most popular sample pack in the world is unusable. It's not about the samples it's about learning how to process them correctly. Tuning compression layering ect. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to work with what he has.

Wave Alchemy

http://www.wavealchemy.co.uk/drum-samples/ty1

They've got free sample packs to try out. All samples are 100% original (i.e., not ripped from other tracks), made with high quality gear, great prices, etc.

Also, "like" them on their FB page and every Friday they give away a couple of discount codes. There may still be one available from earlier today.

And, don't forget that they have 2 free Club Kicks sample packs:

http://www.wavealchemy.co.uk/club_kicks/pid46/fr

http://www.wavealchemy.co.uk/club_kicks_2/pid60/fr

...and a bunch of other free packs:

http://www.wavealchemy.co.uk/free-samples

That should keep you busy for awhile.

Meriter, at least the kid has some heart for his age.
I'm 29, and started producing 6 months ago. I wish I would have started when I was in my teens. I dicked around with Fruity Loops 10 years ago but never put 2+2 together that I could actually learn this stuff, due to life happening. No regrets though as it's what I want to do with all of my possible free time now to get as good as possible. I'm striving for excellence, which may be where your comment comes from, but someone that young might not have the intellectual shield to shrug off an ill comment that doesn't have an underlying point.

Back to the OP: DanceMidiSamples has a Psy kicks pack for like $7 that I really like a lot of the kicks from.

Though, It would help a bit to know more about what kind of kick you're trying to come up with? What are you going for Mike? I assume you're familiar with Bazzism?

[S]Crypto[/S] ...Cryo: Thanks for the links to the free packs. It's nice to see a free batch of samples that isn't something thrown together by a random person containing 90% samples I already have, and 9% of the remaining samples which suck.

Crypto?

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Originally posted by cryophonik Crypto?

The things the eyes gloss over sometimes.

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Originally posted by jsrobinson Meriter, at least the kid has some heart for his age. I'm 29, and started producing 6 months ago. I wish I would have started when I was in my teens. I dicked around with Fruity Loops 10 years ago but never put 2+2 together that I could actually learn this stuff, due to life happening. No regrets though as it's what I want to do with all of my possible free time now to get as good as possible. I'm striving for excellence, which may be where your comment comes from, but someone that young doesn't have the intellectual shield to shrug off a shitty comment.

Meh sure he does, and there was nothing shitty about my comment. Learning to work with what you have will only help you get better


I started producing in my teens as well and when I needed a kick I'd break out the mic and start banging on shit. There was no cookie-cutter sample available that just happened to fit in with my track perfectly

Okay I have to admit the vengeance samples are shit but still.. this is one of those topics that could be solved with about 5 minutes of googling

You have highlighted an issue where perfectionism definitely can hold someone up.

I'm a perfectionist and it's something I have to work to balance between making something that suits my taste which hasn't happened yet, and quantity.

if you want real advice about finding the right kick, make it the last thing you add to your track

crush your track into commercial volume and then go about finding a kick that sits well in the mix

you'll most likely find that after a bit of processing any of those vangeance kicks will work fine once you've slammed your track up against the brick wall

Monster Kicks Volume 1

Thanks for all the replies so far guys, I'll check some of these sample packs out, and to make meriter happy, I'll have a shot at trying to make the right kick, but I've already spent a while doing that.

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Originally posted by meriter not too good with math are you Honestly you think the samples are the problem... like the most popular sample pack in the world is unusable. It's not about the samples it's about learning how to process them correctly. Tuning compression layering ect. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to work with what he has.

most kick samples require no compression, not the ones he has especially. VEC are ready to go. it's not always neccessary to tune kicks, either. indeed i think he should work with what he has as much as he can, but that there is no such thing has having too many samples, maybe he just doesn't like the way the ones he has sounds. and yeah *rolls eyes*, i suffer wildly from the inability to process basic math, by leaving out one year in an obvious equation. pardon me, mr. grumpy pants. 3 years, not 2. wow. big deal. you obviously never had any real support when you started out, or you were treated poorly and are now returning the favor. in the future, step aside for those who do want to help.

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Originally posted by meriter if you want real advice about finding the right kick, make it the last thing you add to your track crush your track into commercial volume and then go about finding a kick that sits well in the mix you'll most likely find that after a bit of processing any of those vangeance kicks will work fine once you've slammed your track up against the brick wall

completely disregard him. selecting a kick at the beginning of your project can be one of the best ways to start a track. this guy is just pulling some elitist snobbery because he has nothing better to do with his friday night.

true I didn't have any support, most people starting out then didn't have this wealth of information available to them, so yes I become a bit irritated when teenagers pop in on this forum and expect expert advice handed to them without working for it

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Originally posted by meriter true I didn't have any support, most people starting out then didn't have this wealth of information available to them, so yes I become a bit irritated when teenagers pop in on this forum and expect expert advice handed to them without working for it

only asking, not demanding. but I know what you mean anyway.. sort of..

:P

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Originally posted by Evolve140 he has nothing better to do with his friday night.

I'm watching the Refused reunion at Coachella. Suck it I could've played a warehouse party tonight.

This pack has some sweet kicks inside: http://www.loopmasters.com/product/details/236

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Originally posted by Sensuerea This pack has some sweet kicks inside: http://www.loopmasters.com/product/details/236

$60? Color me confused but why should a pack of samples cost so much?

Well, my guess would be that because it was made by deadmau5 and Steve Duda.

Its definitely worth having a decent kick sample from the very beginning of production cause it can be inspiring. Doesnt always mean though that that same kick will remain or work in the mix once the entire song is built.

For me, once the song is ready to mix and most of the elements are recorded I like to scroll through my kick samples while the entire track is playing, I do this in NI battery for two reasons, 1: its easy to load a kick sample in a "cell" then scroll through a kick sample library whilst the song is playing. While you scroll through the library write down the names of any samples that seem to work best. You may have a few, complete the process of elimination on fresh ears later on.
2: I can tweak the samples envelope (attack decay sustain release). Try experimenting with the envelope of other percussive elements like hats, snares, anything at all, you can achieve some really cool grooves and tightness just from modifying a samples envelope.

Hope this helps!

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Originally posted by meriter true I didn't have any support, most people starting out then didn't have this wealth of information available to them, so yes I become a bit irritated when teenagers pop in on this forum and expect expert advice handed to them without working for it

+1

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Originally posted by MIKE333ACE only asking, not demanding. but I know what you mean anyway.. sort of..

You're still asking with the expectation that someone is going to provide it to you. Honestly, it's only because of your age that you haven't been strongly advised to go into business with someone you've never met, before. Your threads are a source of irritation because they are asking to resolve issues that are trivial to most producers; let alone most people with an iota of common sense.

You ask stupid questions. Don't dither the issue with teen-aged rhetorical strategies meant to loophole your way out of accountability. People are giving you far too much leeway because you're young.

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Originally posted by MIKE333ACE :P

You might only be fifteen but you are already dangerously close to being regarded as a first-rate attention-whore.


And the headphones you use to make music, shouldn't be used to make music. That's the reason your mixes sound like muddy sewage.

Im sure the vengeance ones are good enough man. I believe some of them are preprocessed and have compression applied.

VEC4.

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