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listening to live sets....
am i the only one that feels better about your own skills after listening to other DJ's live sets?
i get so bent on perfection, that when I dont listen to other DJs for a while i start thinking i'm doing worse than I really am...
and i'm not talking about crappy live sets...
-mer
nope your not alone at all
when i listen to sets that i first made when i first got my decks compared to now i can definetly see the improvement
are u kiddin me...i feel way better when listening to other djs live sets. At least to me...I think I can perform at there level. I think its more of when u listen to mixes that are not live that u start feeling shitty 
and thats cuz its not live...and they can go back and correct there mistakes
im not quite sure if that makes sense...i know im going in circles 
Listen to some of PVD's live sets (Mayday 2000, or was it 2002? One of those) and you'll see that even he makes mistakes. In one of those sets mentioned above, he makes quite noticeable beatmatching errors, although he quickly corrects it. That'll help you feel better about yourself 
But keep in mind, getting to the top isn't only about technical ability. 
i understand exactly...
a one take, live mix, is a whole different thing than something done 50 times in the studio, and then the best take edited to perfection. thats.. uhmm.. cheating? or something.
but yea... listening to real live one-take mixes does make me feel much better. it reminds me that live mixing is not a perfection thing, and it's really all about moving the crowd and not screwing up so bad that people cringe or go 'wtf was that?!'
it's just good to remember that i can be such a %*)^#% perfectionist... gotta have something to keep my expectations realistic.
i guess i should start learning to produce if i want perfection...
*breaks out reason n fruity!* lol
... but spinning records is so much more funnnnnn ! 
-mer
Yeah, I'm the same. I never feel my mixing is good enough cos i have set my standards so high. Only problem is, I never hear other pro's doing live sets that are that much better.
I think the big name dj's are big names becasue 1 - they have been there for a long time, and 2 - they write their own tracks
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| Originally posted by hey cheggy I think the big name dj's are big names becasue 1 - they have been there for a long time, and 2 - they write their own tracks |
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| Originally posted by Alccode Listen to some of PVD's live sets (Mayday 2000, or was it 2002? One of those) and you'll see that even he makes mistakes. In one of those sets mentioned above, he makes quite noticeable beatmatching errors, although he quickly corrects it. That'll help you feel better about yourself But keep in mind, getting to the top isn't only about technical ability. |
Agreed, i listen to the big boys and it makes me feel good when they fuck up. But a real ego booser is to goto local clubs and hear them basic mixing and making simple beatmatching errors. I usually crack up.. and continue feeling better about myself!
Like yall im insanely picky and im very hard on myself and other djs.
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| Originally posted by b0bb0 But a real ego booser is to goto local clubs and hear them basic mixing and making simple beatmatching errors. I usually crack up.. and continue feeling better about myself! |
) - but most of the mainstream clubs, it's a joke. if they are even using vinyl, they are at infant skill level.
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| Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2 oh man.. tell me about it. clubs around here are kinda.. with the exception of a few better clubs where all the party kids go since the rave scene went bye bye (thanks alot you f*cking pigs ) - but most of the mainstream clubs, it's a joke. if they are even using vinyl, they are at infant skill level.I hate clubs. cant stand the trash, ho's, drunk idiots (i'm somewhat anti-booze), and bouncers. just too lame. i'd rather throw a houseparty or take over a field -mer |
So, I was listening to Matt Darey's Pure Euphoria CD 2 on digitallyimported.com today during work, and even on a "perfected" set that isn't live, I didn't think that his mixing skills were that impressive, being that he's an increadible dj and song writer. His mixing though, wasn't that impressive on this particular cd. My definition of a perfect mix is two tracks coming together so well that even the dj who mixed the tracks has a hard time telling when the transition is occuring--aside from technical perfection. I've only had a few of those, and it's great to go back and listen to them! While, his track selection was great for the time that the cd came out, again, his mixing had left much to be desired--at least by another dj.
A couple of things to consider:
A DJ playing in a live set most likely is spinning with a sound setup and equipment that he or she is not accustomed to. That could have some influence in the performance
Also, not all records are perfect. Some records may have a pitch fluctuation, and I'm still not sure if its caused by warpeness of a vinyl or the off center cut,,, maybe both. But I bet even pro djs deal with fucked records from time to time.
Finally, the crowd, the pressure, distractions. That can always influence one's technical skills. Well one other thing I forgot to mention, some djs bring out about 300 vinyls to a gig, and they decide to play what they feel best at the moment, so they may not remember every track, every beat or bar in a track... For the most part they may have the records down perfect, but they may forget the amount of bars on one melody or two.
As for anyone mixing in bedroom (like me)-- Yeah I've found to be really picky and nick at every little error a pro does on stage. But I realize that at home, there is no type of pressure. The environment remains the same and I'm using the same equipment that I practice on a daily basis. I am fully adjusted to my mini sound system, powered by the monitor speakers that I use.
I don't know if it's just me, but when I play somewhere else other than home, I feel a bit akward,,,, and I need to get a feel for the sound system and equipment. Oh, and when I say equipment, I'm talking about mixer and sound system, not really turntables, cause 1200s are most likely used at the big events that pros spin at.
Nothing like hearing a pro make an enormous trainwreck to boost your confidence!
Mind you, I'm with bachatu here - you've got to remember that they're not used to the setup, they've got to read the crowd and they've got to choose the songs respondingly.
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| Originally posted by b0bb0 ohohoho i feel that bro, im the same way. Cant stand the "scene" here and cant stand the clubs, the hos, the drunkness. Id rather spin in my room by myself. But house partys are were its at.. |
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