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Posted by cryophonik on Apr-18-2012 17:02:

Wow, original artist names are hard to come by these days

I guess it's a good thing I came up with my artist name many years ago. I'm trying to come up with a name for this new downtempo side project and I've discovered that EVERY f###ing name I've come up with, even quirky mispellings, are all taken! I've come up with dozens of ideas over the past few weeks, mostly associated with terms that the general public probably wouldn't be familiar with, and nada - every single one has been used. I guess that's one of the casualties of the boom in music production and the Internet, eh? Anybody else noticed this?


Posted by meriter on Apr-18-2012 17:19:

Yeah I fucking noticed this. Took me months to finally settle on something. What pisses me off is these people parasites that just buy up domain names and resell them for 100x their worth. So many creative .com domains are taken and just sitting there unused for the sake of some scumbag making money. Talk about fucking things up for the rest of us.

All you can really do is settle on the name you want and be better and shine brighter than the others, then it's YOUR name.


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-18-2012 17:25:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Yeah I fucking noticed this. Took me months to finally settle on something. What pisses me off is these people parasites that just buy up domain names and resell them for 100x their worth. So many creative .com domains are taken and just sitting there unused for the sake of some scumbag to make money. Talk about fucking things up for the rest of us.


Interesting sidenote: a friend of mine works for a company that just paid $14K for a domain name from one of those companies!


quote:
Originally posted by meriter
All you can really do is settle on the name you want and be better and shine brighter than the others, then it's YOUR name.


I've been considering that, since the name that I really want is taken by an east coast heavy metal band, which, incidentally, really does not fit well with the meaning of the name anyway. The other problem is that the domain name is taken by one of those companies mentioned above.


Posted by tehlord on Apr-18-2012 17:45:

Domain names should become available again after say 28 days if they're not used, and if the original owner wanted to sit on it, it should become progressively more expensive to do so.


Posted by jsrobinson on Apr-18-2012 18:03:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Domain names should become available again after say 28 days if they're not used, and if the original owner wanted to sit on it, it should become progressively more expensive to do so.


Don't those BS parking pages let them get around that?


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-18-2012 18:09:

The future of artist names is looking bleak. I guess we'll have to start re-using old names and add numbers after them. I hereby claim Tiesto2.


Posted by meriter on Apr-18-2012 18:28:

this is why we have these retarded band names like 'Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs'


Posted by Storyteller on Apr-18-2012 18:41:

2 boys 1 duck?


Posted by JEO on Apr-18-2012 18:43:

Let's post extremely stupid emo band names now.

Ubiquitous Synergy Seeker
Death Cab For Cutie


Posted by Storyteller on Apr-18-2012 18:53:

fetish house mafia


Posted by tehlord on Apr-18-2012 18:55:

Bluffmunkey!


No wait.


See,that one wasn't taken


Posted by LoveHate on Apr-18-2012 20:20:

i was using the name "fiery" for awhile :lol:

changed my mind though, so its free to use.


didn't find any brands or artist using it.


Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-18-2012 20:21:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Domain names should become available again after say 28 days if they're not used, and if the original owner wanted to sit on it, it should become progressively more expensive to do so.


There was a whole debate about this a few years back, and it came to a climax over a UK web address.

Basically, this guy had snapped up baa.com, shortly after the British Aerospace Association (FAA to you yanks) registered BAA as their trademark (and that stuff is public record so he probebly was searching the lists of major companies etc). They guy had clearly just bought it and as he could see a goldmine in it. He quickly did a site about sheep ("baa" lol) and then BAA started making enquiries about his legal ownership and it got messy.

Basically BAA offered him �8,000 for a site that got barely any hits and he didn't actually sell anything on. He countered, asking for at least �2,000,000. He tried to play hardball with them for about 8 months, but long story short, BAA ended up getting the site as they had an army of lawyers ready to generate legal fees that would have put the guy out on the street. The other thing was when there is a dispute of this nature, it all comes down to mitigation; who owns the name in a recorded legal basis/who has sold goods under that name/who was there first and in what territory/etc.


Another example is Sasha:

Around 5 years ago there was a big dispute over who was allowed to use the name; DJ Sasha (Alexander Coe) or Sasha (that cheesey boyband singer who is quite a big name in Nothern Europe).

Went to court and it was decided, mainly on the basis of who had sold in which territory first, that Mr.Coe would get the rights to use Sasha in the USA, Canada, Japan, UK, Ireland and France, but the other Sasha would retain Germany, Switzerland and Austria, mainly hinging on the legal basis that even though Mr Coe had sold records in those places long before, they were all foreign imports, not on domestic labels in those countries, whereas the cheesey Sasha had been signed to domestic labels and had therefore entered the market proper first with that name.

So in that case it comes down simply to first established commercial usage.


Posted by Kysora on Apr-18-2012 21:32:

Kysora thankfully seems original for the moment, aside from some tool on Youtube who uploads anime videos under the name.


Posted by MSZ on Apr-18-2012 21:42:

check it out im a rapper in poland.


Posted by TranceElevation on Apr-18-2012 22:34:

I'd purchase Looney4Clooney.


Posted by DJ RANN on Apr-18-2012 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceElevation
I'd purchase Looney4Clooney.


Actually L4C is already been and done; There's several twitter accounts, a FB page, several myspace pages, the site has been registered ...there's nothing left.


One other story:

A friend is a well known celebrity Fitness Guru in France - unknown to her (due to her inept and now jobless web guy) her site address wasn't renewed on time and a few months ago at midnight, some dude in Switzerland snapped it up the second it became available, and parked her site with e holding page.

She was going to lose a revenue of about 1,000EUR a day (that's what she makes off her site) and the guy asked for 3,000 to transfer it back to her name. She got heavy with him and quickly sent the proof of trademark and historical ownership detail and he backed down to 500EUR which she paid.

Basically, guy got 500EUR for a site he paid 15EUR for and owned for less than 24 hours.


Posted by Seandroid on Apr-19-2012 00:38:

I got Seandroid.com

I'd get the fucking Twitter account if Twitter would release inactive usernames. It's been inactive for TWO YEARS.


Posted by Storyteller on Apr-19-2012 05:13:

Same thing here. Wanting some .com name for a while now. I got the .net and .org already but the .com is taken by a domain broker. An earlier broker that had the name actually tried to sellit to me but the asking price was way too steep. Just got the .org 2 weeks ago. I noticed about 6 weeks earlier that it was in its redemption period and they were about to release it. Luckily i got it first right after that.

Twitter account has 1 tweet from seceral years ago


Posted by Mel David on Apr-19-2012 05:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
I got Seandroid.com

I'd get the fucking Twitter account if Twitter would release inactive usernames. It's been inactive for TWO YEARS.


To be honest if you have your own website you don't really need Twitter or Facebook, or Soundcloud for that matter. You should be directing your would-be fans to your own website.


Posted by Storyteller on Apr-19-2012 06:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Mel David
To be honest if you have your own website you don't really need Twitter or Facebook, or Soundcloud for that matter. You should be directing your would-be fans to your own website.


No, that only works if your name attracts a critical mass of visitors already. In order to gain more traction social websites is where you want to be, at any given time.


Posted by Richard Butler on Apr-19-2012 11:04:

4 years ago I made and then bought rights to about 12 Moroccan tourism names, such as Golfmorocco.com.

I did this as Morocco is a fast developing nation, and the closest exotic destination to Europe (3 hours from London) and the King stated building massive high end tourist sites, a lot of them backed by rich Saudis.

I have to pay about �250 every 2 years to keep them, and hope one day I might be able to sell.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Apr-19-2012 12:58:

rodrisantos.com is taken the internet is getting small and i don't want fucking .ws domains , happens the same for track names, even if you write something like Looghytjurum there are chances that it has already been taken. XXXX- I'm a fucking twat is probably taken also.


Posted by Mel David on Apr-19-2012 13:14:

It doesn't have to be a .com. Try .info .pro .org .net


Posted by Rodri Santos on Apr-19-2012 13:22:

apart from maybe .net the other domains are 2nd league ones, you will always instinctively write whatever.com. If people have to remember your website name + a random domain (was it xxx.org,xxx.biz,xxx.info... fuck it i pass)


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