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I'm going mad. Techno meets trance.

Any comments especially on mix. Just a limiter on the master.



I worked up some of my gay singing specially

Some cool parts, a little too droney for my taste though.

Love the collection of stabbing percs working together rhythmically. the breakdown was very intriguing and led into a very powerful release. love it.

I find the kick to be too strong i'd make it a bit more subtle. The breakdown should be a bit darker, the 1st section is obscure and then you come with a fairy tale breakdown, developes nicely but i'd make it a bit more coherent with the rest of the track. Good job so far.

I think you're on to something with this genre-blending


I like the melody that comes in during the breakdown but it lost me at 2:42 when it changes, like techno is simple enough you coulda just maintained that throughout and even into the drop and I think it would've been more effective

I'm not really into techno but I must say that I enjoyed this track. I was expecting more vocal parts though Good job!

Great track, break lead a bit dark maybe
mix balance can do better, bit of tightening up can give it a lot more power.

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Originally posted by Raphie Great track, break lead a bit dark maybe mix balance can do better, bit of tightening up can give it a lot more power.

Thanks for all the feed, am making changes as a result.


Raph, anything specific need tightening - I'm very carefull with each sound making it as short and tight as possible. Always good to get an outsiders input as one looses perspective when working so closely on something.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Thanks for all the feed, am making changes as a result. Raph, anything specific need tightening - I'm very carefull with each sound making it as short and tight as possible. Always good to get an outsiders input as one looses perspective when working so closely on something.

when the first vocal im going mad comes in you need to have some sort of crescencdo kinda thing going into it. suddenly a human voice in the middle of a very industrial sounding beat. kinda doesnt work...

did not love the riff in the breakdown.

all the techno parts are cool, the trance not so much...

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Originally posted by dj_alfi when the first vocal im going mad comes in you need to have some sort of crescencdo kinda thing going into it. suddenly a human voice in the middle of a very industrial sounding beat. kinda doesnt work... did not love the riff in the breakdown. all the techno parts are cool, the trance not so much...

Yeah good call on that sudden vocal, I need to tidy this whole thing up.

I'm thinking of making the break more about dark vocals and perhaps dispensing with the pretty plinky plonk break synths.

Was also going to add some big hits, perhaps vocal hits and stutters here n there in the intro and drop.

This track is way better than your previous tracks. This is definitely more like the type of track you should be making.

I think the kick is a bit too strong. At the same time, it kind of works for this track.

Percussion sounds solid to me. Much better sounding percussion than the vast majority of techno tracks I've heard, even the recent ones.

If you actually want other people to play this track, I'd suggest just cutting out the arp in the breakdown and the chord stabs. Keep it a techno track and you could sell it to a techno label easily in my opinion. It would also just make more sense as a track. Keep the breakdown as short as possible btw. I've noticed that techno DJs aren't the biggest fans of breakdowns, especially ones longer than 30 seconds.

Track sounds really good coming out of the breakdown. Ya, definitely best thing I've heard you produce.

EDIT: overall, great vibe. this is the type of stuff you should be making. however, take out the trance elements in the breakdown. you don't need them

You know this is not my typical cup of tea but as I mention before I always can appreciate any good quality music (including Industrial-Techno-Trance).

For my taste this vocal coming in at 1:14 could sound a bit more robotic/industrial (you could even run it through vocoder to morph it a bit more).

Break, hmmmm, I'm not sure if feats this overall Techno concept/idea but sounded really nice by it self

I think you find yourself a great genre to shine in Richard and if you really after hybrids of Techno-Idustrial-Trance-House than you have to find some cleaver and sophisticate way of blending/morphing between them.

I really think that your star is starting to shine and your time is slowly coming my friend.

Cheers,

Darek

Dont think your break down suits the song.
Bass is really weak and messy sounding, i think i can hear what your trying to do thou.

I enjoy the little percs your production have, do you make these yourself?

This is pretty good and would easily fit into the club scene around my area. Very interesting and quite different. The kick is awshum.

The middle trance part was a little weird, but why not. Was cool anyway!

+1

Your percussion work is really good. Good work with the kick. The overall mix sounds good, but a bit wide for my taste. The part I liked most was the break one with those acid bass stabs and atmosphere going on, but I agree it sounds completely out of context. I would work that idea as a separate track.

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Originally posted by Julz Dont think your break down suits the song. Bass is really weak and messy sounding, i think i can hear what your trying to do thou. I enjoy the little percs your production have, do you make these yourself?

Yea I make all my own percs. I generally start with a sample and meld it into shape. Other times I'll record shit like banging a cucumber - yea seriously! I also use the DCAM synth Squad synth called Cypher and piss about until I come up with an intersting perc sound, add fx and then turn that into a sample.

Occasionally I use loops but they hardly ever work for some reason. I can't tell you how much I love percs, as good as sex tbh!

I like to keep mny body moving when I'm making beats, tends to stop my foot and leg cramps comming on (I love sport and martial arts but get loads of cramps), plus the amount I'm compelled to move tends to be governed by how well the beat is working.

I wanted an odd occasional bass, nothing too prominent and obvious. But as ever I take feedback seriously and comments like your are a wake up check for me to go re - visit things I might have missed.

Seems the break will have to go. I'll try for something much grimier. This genre bending isn't paying dividends.


JAYKAY - really appreciate the comments there. I'm conflicted as I love making techno and percs above all else, but somehow I feel like it's being lazy as it's not as complex as trance or complextro etc.


MISE - I hear ya, not sure I'd turn that break into another track, I know I'd get bored, it's just too happy and fluffy, I quite like making misery these days.

007 - it's nice to get feedback even though I know this teccy stuff does not really float your boat, your comments are much appreciated.

TERHAN appreciate the feedback. Glad u feel the kick. Really it's the first time I made a drum buss with some dynamics fx applied as I kept feeling I wasn't getting the impact I've been after.


So I'll go hivernate and turn this into something better, with amore fitting break, get it all stitched better to avoid those sudden off putting parts, maybe more vox, perhaps a more discernable bass element - although I need to be careful to then not swamp out the drums. Also some of the crashes are gay, so I re - do em.

I like the complexity of the percussion work in the intro section - the kick is good too

strange sound at 2:16 - so out of place i had to check i didn't accidentally have another track playing in the background

the track has nice bits, but the structure is strange, things start when they shouldn't and don't stop when you expect them to - it's a hard one to fix, but you know when you've got the arrangement right when your listener anticipates slightly what is going to happen next

good percs throughout

i don't mind the vocal sample.

hope this helps

t

to be clear, i didnt mind the vocals at all, i just think they needs to be introduced better.

S
o here's the final version, a lot of changes and the melodic break gone, replaced by moody stuff. Entirely new drums as my software crashed and I lost em all.


This version is home mastered.

what a pity with the drums, the drop sounds amazing, i can't judge the mixing because it's late here but the kick now sounds better, this is the kind of kick i like.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Seems the break will have to go. I'll try for something much grimier. This genre bending isn't paying dividends. So I'll go hivernate and turn this into something better, with amore fitting break, get it all stitched better to avoid those sudden off putting parts, maybe more vox, perhaps a more discernable bass element - although I need to be careful to then not swamp out the drums. Also some of the crashes are gay, so I re - do em.

Hmmm... I wouldn't say that at all. This is certainly an improvement on the Berlin W/end track, and although I think the changes you've made work, I don't feel the melodic break was that bad to begin with. I think the way you're trying to meld these genres is coming together and sounding more refined.
At the end of the day everyone has their own tastes and expectations and you shouldn't be just trying to cater to please others at your own expense.
Yeah I realise you're probably feeling the darker stuff more at the moment, but I don't think you'd be doing the melodic thing to begin with if you didn't feel it.

great track, LOVE it!

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