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Is trance dead?

excerpt with link to entire article below. I had jay read it before i hit publish. enjoy

Relax, relax. We're just asking a question.

"Trance goes where it will go. Whether it�s evolving or not, it always stays appealing to its listeners. People have to adapt over time, so does the music. Its purpose, however, which is high-quality entertainment, will never go away."

- Ferry Corsten

Maybe in 20 years trance will be seen as, dare we say it, just a fad?

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seriously enough with this crap, its been going back and forth for YEARS and the discussion never goes anywhere....

if you like trance, then its not dead

/thread

ouch. anyway - figured was espec appropriate for nyta since lately it's more like ny techno addict... not that i dislike techno by any means. carl cox was one of the best sets ive seen this year. just sayin

meh, just another article that's going to make everyone defend their niche genre pioneers, make fun of other "types" of edm, and completely disregard the fact that there's still great trance being put out and it's the simple fact that people are too lazy to find it. i'm constantly being surprised at the quality in songs you can find almost daily, but you don't hear anybody talking about them. sadly, if it's not spoon fed to the masses chances are that artist won't gain any attention.

case and point:



2.2k views, maybe a total of 5k with all rips included? everyone listens to their one favorite radio show, and are generally too lazy to look into the tracklist and find the tracks they enjoy. the only way you see these being spread is if it pops on their news feed from the artist they love on facebook and they feel it necessary to share. 20 tracks per episode of ASOT/TATW/GDJB, but hundreds of releases a week. oversaturation simply makes it harder to find the good ones, and thus gets individual artists far less exposure and tricks people into thinking one style is "dead"

tl;dr: there's great music being made for every little corner of the market, people just need to stop being too lazy to find it before saying it's dead - and then go and support it.

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Originally posted by Excess there's great music being made for every little corner of the market, people just need to stop being too lazy to find it before saying it's dead - and then go and support it.

agreed. i think what im more getting at is the bookings aspect and why you cant find enough people to actually come out anymore. i guess i'm most interested right now in seeing the reviews + track list from ronski speed + stoneface & terminal

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Originally posted by The Vza agreed. i think what im more getting at is the bookings aspect and why you cant find enough people to actually come out anymore. i guess i'm most interested right now in seeing the reviews + track list from ronski speed + stoneface & terminal

ahh well that definitely plays into what i said as well. not enough people finding said music, and in turn not enough buzz for promoters to bring these guys plus less people who want to come out for those artists because they simply don't know yet.

not gonna lie, trance could definitely use a popular blog or five ran by people who are actually digging to find good tracks - there's tons of them, and no giant interweb outlet that shares them regularly

if it's not on armada or anjunabeats, it won't break 5k youtube views with very few exceptions to that. we have ONE video with 12k views but that's because it caught fire on an unrelated internet forum. if i hadn't been an active member there, chances are it wouldn't break 1k

oh and ur avatar is a picture of Pauly D lol

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Originally posted by PvDoBseSSioN oh and ur avatar is a picture of Pauly D lol

ya cause im a sell out didnt you know? just wanted to make sure everyone knew.

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Originally posted by Excess not gonna lie, trance could definitely use a popular blog or five ran by people who are actually digging to find good tracks

big time

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Originally posted by The Vza ya cause im a sell out didnt you know? just wanted to make sure everyone knew.

im just f*ckin with ya bro

and sellouts make money! i'd sell out too

I haven't kept up with trance but having listened to those new trance tunes, except those on the top and the one SvD tune, I'd say its on the decline. You said it yourself that big room melodic sounds are the new trance. But music happens in cycles. I almost feel that most people that were into trance in the early days have moved on to other genres and the same may happen to newcomers. Hard to say if the true trance sound will ever come back.

All of these were released in the last several months, just gotta dig deeper -

Would love to see guys like Activa, Temple One, Sebastian Brandt, Manuel le Saux, Sundriver, Sneijder, Robert Nickson, J00F, Thomas Datt, Daniel Kandi, Ram, Joorn van Deynhoven etc.. with more gigs to represent

"Is trance dead" is a stupid question.

Mainstream cheese trance is dying.

Real trance has always still been alive. See: Brad's assortment of awesome trance tunes.

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Originally posted by Sedna Mainstream cheese trance is dying.

it's alive and more than ever ha ha ha

but yea pretty much to days of big trance dj's who would come in take you on a journey,play underground stuff,support good music etc
are over

everyone now is just a 2-3 predictable set whoreing out the same pop cheese/producer sets

From the Main Discussion section.

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Paul van Dyk: Trance These Days Is Cheesy Shit Paul Oakenfold: "Lots of trance is fluffy cheese" Somewhat-related interview with John 00 Fleming regarding the state of trance

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Originally posted by BradMiller Would love to see guys like ... Daniel Kandi, Ram, Joorn van Deynhoven etc.. with more gigs to represent

Agree with your entire list. However, the ones I highlighted all had mixed responses in Holland. Most people love RAM, because he throws a lot of the parties himself. However, Kandi and JvD aren't getting the same recognition they used to and that was a bit weird/unexpected to see while over there. They still play great sets though!

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Originally posted by AY STAR but yea pretty much to days of big trance dj's who would come in take you on a journey,play underground stuff,support good music etc are over

At some point in this decade, I predict that a members only trance club will exist in NYC that lets its members vote on whom they want to see booked. Good things happen to those who wait.

^^^
Still a work in progress - just gotta get the right talent at the right price (ie dirt cheap) to start it off

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Originally posted by Excess not gonna lie, trance could definitely use a popular blog or five ran by people who are actually digging to find good tracks

There are good tracks? Really? I haven't noticed. I feel asleep at my computer after the thousand or so shit tracks that I listened to.

No but seriously, I'm extremely spoiled in terms of originality and quality and its getting harder and harder for me to get my fix. I've found myself focusing more on other genres because I don't have to filter through as much garbage and don't get frustrated as easily.

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Originally posted by euphoria There are good tracks? Really? I haven't noticed. I feel asleep at my computer after the thousand or so shit tracks that I listened to. No but seriously, I'm extremely spoiled in terms of originality and quality and its getting harder and harder for me to get my fix. I've found myself focusing more on other genres because I don't have to filter through as much garbage and don't get frustrated as easily.

Hence the need for that type of blog, or whatever.

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Originally posted by auteuil Hence the need for that type of blog, or whatever.

Nope, because the said "good tracks" will be the opinion of the blog owner and I may not necessarily agree with that persons taste.

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Originally posted by euphoria Nope, because the said "good tracks" will be the opinion of the blog owner and I may not necessarily agree with that persons taste.

But it can't hurt to give the blogger a test run... maybe you do have similar tastes in tracks and said blogger could pick out a couple good ones out of the x-amount of 'generic/cheese' tracks.

A blogger who digs for trance tracks that don't receive as much mainstream exposure? I hear you guys loud & clear...so stay tuned. Soon. *scurries off cryptically*

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Originally posted by Lira Yin A blogger who digs for trance tracks that don't receive as much mainstream exposure? I hear you guys loud & clear...so stay tuned. Soon. *scurries off cryptically*

I was thinking the same thing...

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Originally posted by euphoria There are good tracks? Really? I haven't noticed. I feel asleep at my computer after the thousand or so shit tracks that I listened to. No but seriously, I'm extremely spoiled in terms of originality and quality and its getting harder and harder for me to get my fix. I've found myself focusing more on other genres because I don't have to filter through as much garbage and don't get frustrated as easily.

I'd recommend you check out music from some labels like Silk & Mistique though I'm sure you already have. and I'd also recommend the drum & bass genre. last year I listened to a greg benz set 'if I played drum & bass' & I fell big into d&b, started digging up a lot of artists etc. I could give you some artist/track names if you like. blu mar ten-all or nothing is a good example of a 'trancey' d&b track. if you like the anjunadeep sound, you'll like blood groove & kikis, possibly maison & dragen. if you like some trancey breaks schodt & aeron aether are good. schodt-heatwave is an awesome track. and also dinka and soundprank-2 of my fav producers who should be genres of their own!

there are some decent trance trax out there, it all depends on perspective. for example, I don't care for artists like norin & rad, aly & fila, ronski speed etc. while there are others out there who are big fans of them.

with all the trouse takeover going on out there I still find more than enough awesome music to listen to on a weekly basis..lots of good music for the finding.

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Originally posted by acetate212 , I don't care for artists like aly & fila, with all the trouse takeover going on out there I still find more than enough awesome music to listen to on a weekly basis..lots of good music for the finding.

i dunno man, to me aly and fila still play trance and support underground and up & coming artists,just peep their tracklist for their radio show, theres def a few gems on there every week
as for finding music, it is def harder to find good trance music these days
here is the new airwave song...


song is a lil on the progressive side but still real trance music
love the overall sound...thru out the years airwave still keeps it REAL!!!
iam curious to see how many dj's will support it on their radio shows

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Originally posted by acetate212 I'd recommend you check out music from some labels like Silk & Mistique though I'm sure you already have. and I'd also recommend the drum & bass genre. last year I listened to a greg benz set 'if I played drum & bass' & I fell big into d&b, started digging up a lot of artists etc. I could give you some artist/track names if you like. blu mar ten-all or nothing is a good example of a 'trancey' d&b track. if you like the anjunadeep sound, you'll like blood groove & kikis, possibly maison & dragen. if you like some trancey breaks schodt & aeron aether are good. schodt-heatwave is an awesome track. and also dinka and soundprank-2 of my fav producers who should be genres of their own! there are some decent trance trax out there, it all depends on perspective. for example, I don't care for artists like norin & rad, aly & fila, ronski speed etc. while there are others out there who are big fans of them. with all the trouse takeover going on out there I still find more than enough awesome music to listen to on a weekly basis..lots of good music for the finding.

I have and I like some of their releases but the ones I like are breaks or prog house. I also listen to melodic drum & bass. Schodt is one of my faves actually. Aeron Aether has more of a laidback sound but I do like some of his tracks. A lot of Dinka's tracks sound too similar to one another for me to be able to appreciate many of them. When I commented about not being able to find good tracks, I meant specifically in the trance genre. I have no issues finding tracks in most other genres that I like, in fact I rarely ever find a track that I don't like in the prog breaks genre. While releases in the genre are extremely less frequent they are much more quality.

Would def like to hear more of your dnb recommendations tho

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