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Reason, Fruity or some other....

I know Reason and Fruity (have them both). But what else little studios there are out for pc? Any ideas?

Theres Orion but i dont know much about it.

Yeah, now there is new orion Platinum... ANyone have any comments of it?

Storm
Buzz
Cubase
ReBirth

Cubase... Is it something like Reason/Fruity (like little soft-studio)??

And is it really any good?

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Originally posted by Joi Lamusic Cubase... Is it something like Reason/Fruity (like little soft-studio)?? And is it really any good?

Cubase is a sequencer. only. But it's a damn powerful one, probably only logic platinum can compete with it. You need lots of vst plugins or hardware to make the actual sounds, but if you get it right it sounds like no other. It's a professional tool..

Reason running along side Cubase via Rewire on a high spec machine, it doesnt get much more powerful as far as computer music production goes. Its also fukin wicked!

Yeah, I already have Reason (and I love it). but I think I will get Cubase (or some other that acn be rewired with Reason and can ahndle those VST-plugins). And maybe I also will get Rebirth... Little birds told me that Rebirth is really good for 303-sound

www.buzzmachines.com I'll never get tired of saying Buzz rulez! D'l it. If you are up for something really hard but amazingly rewarding on software, use that. James Holden backs up my word. I'm serious.

buzz is cool, and its free. Good thing i have a backgruond in tracking, otherwise it'd be very frustrating to learn. Still buggy though, cuz the guy lost the code. I hope they update the prog, cuz I think its great.

You can load buzz machines into fruity, which I'm fooling around with right now. FSM infector is an awesome synth.

So buzz is VST or something if it can be used with Fruity?

No, buzz is a program for making music. I wouldn't recommend it if you're using reason. Buzz does sound better than reason in many regards, and you can do a lot more with it, but sequencing with it is a nightmare if you have no tracker experience.

But, you can use buzz machines (the synths, and effects too i think) within fruity... although not all work and you lose a lot of the freedom buzz gives you.

I downloded the Buzz.. I can open those demo tracks and they sound ok. But I just can't get the basics of that machine...

How I can use those some buzz synths/sounds with Fruity?

Umh... How can I see those notes that are playing in those demosongs?

meh, its really difficult to explain if you don't have tracking experience. :P The help files are best to get u started.

I love buzz and the flexibility it offers, its just way too unstable, and the sequencing interface is really bad right now. To load buzz machines, go into fruity, and add a 'buzz generator adapter' channel, and load a buzz machine .dll file into that channel.

can buzz effects be loaded into fruity too?

yep, just use the buzz effect adapter. but i dunno, after fooling around with it, the machines and effects don't have the same sound as when used with buzz... I'm a tracker and heart too, just hoping a buzz 2 comes out.

You mean to tell me James Holden uses Buzz in to make his music? He is one of the coolest producers out there imo...man i'm definetely going to have to check it out.

Yeah, I read in a Sasha interview that James Holden uses Buzz pretty much exclusively. Anyone else here played with this cool proggie? It would be good to get a tips thread started for it....

Yeah, i've tried everything, but I always come back to buzz. All info is on buzzmachines.com

Someone uploaded (in the reviews section) a nice emulation of 4strings - into the night using only buzz machines. Sounds just like the original. hehe

Concept is simple, generators hook up to effects, hook up to master, in any combination you can think of. Patterns are made, using a tracker like editor (ticks), and arranged in a multi pattern sequencer. Patterns can be made for generators or effects, and any slider or paramater can be automated in the pattern.

The program itself hasn't been developed for quite a while, but buzz2 is still under development. So there are quite a few bugs that you might need to iron out. The great part is that there are SO many machines u can use, and of course, you can load up your favorite vsti and vst effects. (like the fm7).

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Originally posted by Treo Cubase is a sequencer. only.

This is not true any more, and hasn't been for a long time. Cubase is an entire production suite. It started off as sequencer/notation software (back in the days of Atari). The most recent version (Cubase SX) is a sequencer, notator, hard-disk recorder, and mastering suite all in one. It integrates MIDI, VST, Rewire (Rebirth and Reason), and Audio tracks all into one great mixer interface. It does come with a couple of free VST synths, but they're not that great. Where Cubase shines is it's MIDI implementation and VST support...

One word: BuzzVST

Anyone use Acid Pro 3.0? How's that in comparison to other programs, like Fruity Loops? I've got both, but I've only played around a little bit with Acid Pro.

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I've got both, but I've only played around a little bit with Acid Pro.

Oops. I meant I've messed around a little bit with Fruity Loops.

I have tested Acid. IMO it's not suited for producing AT ALL, but I've heard somebody actually manages to churn out good shit from it. Guess it shows that it's the man/woman and not the tools that makes the music. I would rather go with Fruity if those two are the only alternatives. If not, you should browse threads here and see what program you think would suit you the most. There are so many alternatives out there..

Peace

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