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Posted by andrewdring on Jun-07-2012 13:36:

Label Help Wanted

As someone who over the last few years has changed genres multiple times in the studio and lost track of a lot of old contacts I am looking for help regarding current up and coming labels to approach remix work for, obviously as I am looking to build a portfolio I would not be looking to receive any financial gain.

If it helps (this isn't a shameless plug) my most recent remix work is on my soundcloud www.soundcloud.com/andrewdring I have played with two tracks to hone my production skills of late, Rob Dougans - Clubbed To Death and on a less serious level Dario Gs - Sunchyme. If anyone knows of any labels who are looking to work with new producers or in my case those trying to reestablish themselves I would be grateful if anyone could make them known to me. Many thanks, Andrew


Posted by tehlord on Jun-07-2012 13:41:

That 3rd track on your page is a barely altered Patterson tune.


Posted by andrewdring on Jun-07-2012 13:52:

Yeah this is a mash up which is why I've avoided mentioning it in the above post, thanks for taking time to listen though.


Posted by Deillon on Jun-07-2012 14:12:

Have you tried emailing the labels themselve? I mean, you must know a few right?


Posted by andrewdring on Jun-07-2012 14:24:

I barely know the scene at all these days, I just produce what I used to love but it must be close to a year since I went onto the likes of audiojelly or tid. It's amazing how quickly you can lose touch, I used to produce hard dance and had a few releases from 2005 - 2007 since then I've gone back to the drawing board so many times, but now I feel I'm at a good technical level and can have another attempt at working within the industry.

I was just hoping with this being one of the biggest and as far as I can remember one of the oldest trance communities a few users here may be able to point me in the right direction so I can get things moving again.

It's not a huge issue if there aren't many answers on here, just didn't think it would hurt to ask.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jun-07-2012 14:50:

let them approach you. Any label that will actually do something will seek you out. So if you need an ego stroke, then ya, this advice is not going to help. If you want to actually do something more, then work on your music, your networking so that there is a buzz about your music and a following. Without that, nobody is going to care. UNless someone close to a big label vets you.

this is a pretty simple thing that has happened in the last few years. Label hunting is just not what you do. There is no point. Except to serve ones ego as you will seek out a so so label and you will get a credit in beatport. But you won't be selling anything, and the release is largely for show.


Posted by tehlord on Jun-07-2012 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by andrewdring
Yeah this is a mash up which is why I've avoided mentioning it in the above post, thanks for taking time to listen though.



Then you really shouldn't be trying to pass it off as your own work, as that's the way it looks on your SC page.


Posted by andrewdring on Jun-07-2012 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Then you really shouldn't be trying to pass it off as your own work, as that's the way it looks on your SC page.


A mash-up of my remix of Sigur Ros - Hoppipolla and Simon Pattersons - Thumb.Enjoy!

^^^ is on the description when you open it, or should be anyways...


Posted by andrewdring on Jun-07-2012 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
let them approach you. Any label that will actually do something will seek you out. So if you need an ego stroke, then ya, this advice is not going to help. If you want to actually do something more, then work on your music, your networking so that there is a buzz about your music and a following. Without that, nobody is going to care. UNless someone close to a big label vets you.

this is a pretty simple thing that has happened in the last few years. Label hunting is just not what you do. There is no point. Except to serve ones ego as you will seek out a so so label and you will get a credit in beatport. But you won't be selling anything, and the release is largely for show.


Thanks for the advice I tried a year or so ago but half of the labels I approached had actually closed down!

Genuinely not an ego stroke I'm looking for I just need some motivation to carry on the work I've started so working along side a label where someone was depending on me doing the work would be just what I need, I would also offer free remix work to users of this forum if they so wished as mentioned I would just like to build a small portfolio and carry on improving. I've got my self to this point a few times stopped and started all over again, I'd just like to make sure this time my efforts weren't wasted.


Posted by Excess on Jun-07-2012 15:11:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
That 3rd track on your page is a barely altered Patterson tune.


i laughed, because everything you make that is trance is a barely altered tyas tune :


Posted by MSZ on Jun-07-2012 15:12:

Hate message placement here.

Ill edit this when I have something good.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jun-07-2012 15:20:

quote:
Originally posted by andrewdring
Thanks for the advice I tried a year or so ago but half of the labels I approached had actually closed down!

Genuinely not an ego stroke I'm looking for I just need some motivation to carry on the work I've started so working along side a label where someone was depending on me doing the work would be just what I need, I would also offer free remix work to users of this forum if they so wished as mentioned I would just like to build a small portfolio and carry on improving. I've got my self to this point a few times stopped and started all over again, I'd just like to make sure this time my efforts weren't wasted.


a label for the most part, is superficial. Your time and efforts are more wasted in that you lose the potential to do something useless with it. MAke a website, do tutorials, create a following. This is the best way lacking an in to get a label interested.I just don't get why you are so interested in a label that really will do nothing for you. What do you get out of it.


Posted by tehlord on Jun-07-2012 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Excess
i laughed, because everything you make that is trance is a barely altered tyas tune :


But I state that fact clearly, AND i'm not label hunting.

And my stuff isn't literally just a Patterson tune chopped up and re-arranged. Even though it might sound that way


and

FUCK YOU NOOB!


Posted by Excess on Jun-07-2012 15:30:

L4C: while i would agree time invested elsewhere is a good idea, signing to a smaller record label who does nothing lets you at the very least get pirated which would ultimately spread your music further than giving it out for free to your limited network

and damn geoff, noob. the one word on the internet that just sends me into a downward spiral.

im hurt.


Posted by andrewdring on Jun-07-2012 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
a label for the most part, is superficial. Your time and efforts are more wasted in that you lose the potential to do something useless with it. MAke a website, do tutorials, create a following. This is the best way lacking an in to get a label interested.I just don't get why you are so interested in a label that really will do nothing for you. What do you get out of it.



I'm just looking to write music if it's on a label there's a better chance of people hearing that music and I'd love my work to reach as many people as it potentially could. Let's face it you don't write trance to become rich, its a hobby for a lot of us, and if someone wants to help promote my contributions to the scene I'm more than grateful to them.


Posted by MSZ on Jun-07-2012 15:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Excess
L4C: while i would agree time invested elsewhere is a good idea, signing to a smaller record label who does nothing lets you at the very least get pirated which would ultimately spread your music further than giving it out for free to your limited network

and damn geoff, noob. the one word on the internet that just sends me into a downward spiral.

im hurt.


HOLY FUCK A CHANCE TO GET PIRATED. JACK-POT????


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jun-07-2012 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by andrewdring
I'm just looking to write music if it's on a label there's a better chance of people hearing that music and I'd love my work to reach as many people as it potentially could. Let's face it you don't write trance to become rich, its a hobby for a lot of us, and if someone wants to help promote my contributions to the scene I'm more than grateful to them.


I would say this might sound weird but there is a smaller chance. Beatport is less accessible, you can't post it or allow others to download for free and restrict your audience to djs.

basically, what most labels do is the equivalent to what studios do when they option something they know will never get made. Sure they release it but the estimated sales is so small that it is like they option your track, and just keep it in a box which is 99% of beatport.

So ya, if you want to be more accessible and get your name out there, a label is not going to do that. Unless it is a big label. And those will go after you. Or the odd chance you know someone that passes your stuff.

I mean if a label can guarantee big dj support, which most can't, or will fudge the stats, then there really is nothing that they offer. If you want djs to play your stuff, i mean it is sort of a chicken and egg thing, they won't play your stuff unless you are good, if you are good , people will come for you. But really, track the djs that will play your track, go to their shows, give them something that looks nice. NOt a cd. A usb key or something with some pretty packaging. Or both. They will listen to it. Being on a promo list is really not a good way to get played. Because if you are good ,, you will get played. The promo list doesn't encourage djs to play your track. These are all old tools people use to sell you the concept of a label. It is snake oil most of the time.


Posted by Excess on Jun-07-2012 15:39:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
HOLY FUCK A CHANCE TO GET PIRATED. JACK-POT????


pirates gonna pirate


Posted by tehlord on Jun-07-2012 15:41:

I've been waiting for a chance to use that excellent image too. It made me lulz.


Posted by Excess on Jun-07-2012 15:41:

he has such determination in his eyes


Posted by itsamemario on Jun-07-2012 19:14:

Re: Label Help Wanted

quote:
Originally posted by andrewdring


Haven't read all the replies so yah whatever. But yeah, I think you should do a little listen around on Beatport see if any of the labels tickle your fancy. Maybe also see what else is doing the charts, I'm not saying to copy them, but at least get your tracks up to the same production level as them would help you a looong way. Im not saying your music's utter shite, I quite liked Clubbed to Death actually, but they do sound a bit dated, especially the Dario G remix..

Have you written the whole melody for Clubbed to Death or have you nicked it from some classical piece?


Posted by itsamemario on Jun-07-2012 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
HOLY FUCK A CHANCE TO GET PIRATED. JACK-POT????


Don't you know? Every time someone listens to a song you've made your penis gets a liiittle bit bigger. [b]Every[/i] time.


Posted by sleeping on Jun-07-2012 20:15:

why not just send labels some original work. If it turns out fine there�s a chance they want you to do remixwork later on.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jun-07-2012 20:43:

when you remix a tune that remixes Elgar, you don't have to call it clubbed to death.



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