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what happened to this music scene?

honestly. maybe im out of date and lazy but I used to love listening to the EM's live back in 98-02' and follow labels and shit and find music but now i just dont give a fuck. because their either riddled with dubstep or have influce of dubstep in them. and to be frank just sound like shit and boring to me.

where is my john fleming and digweed progressive and melodic trance at these days. it feels like the majority of folks are splitting off from the collabs to get the $.

stuff like
ambassador - the fade
elucidate - carousel
roger shah And signum - healesville sanctuary
planisphere - moonshine
(and thats not even the good stuff)

i find myself digging into the oldies like monkey forest and shit which is old as balls but still timeless

takes fucking forever to find the real good stuff

maybe im getting old or something but jesus

the last hybrid song i even bothered to look at that was a big deal was formula of fear and that was terrible. old hybrid was unreal.

sadly i started moving into post rock to help feel the need of looking for a long progression with great melody and sounds.

the fuck is happening?

There is so much great stuff out there i dont even know where to begin, though i absolutely love the dubstep influence in electronic music, its really a fresh breath, music 2012 has become forward thinking again and producers have understood that they have to separate from the crowd.

My advice is, give music a fair chance, listen new tracks for more than a couple of minutes, 10 years ago you had the fewer artists to listen to so you would always give your favorite producers a fair chance on his new releases.

I hate dubstep too.

I suggest downloading the last 10 podcasts of DJ Orkidea - Radio Unity off iTunes....its great. Start with podcast 039.

IMO its the best trance being produced these days.

This is brilliant!

http://open.spotify.com/track/11N5xNWCy41ps2ImhkoIUS

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Originally posted by r5a

Know how you feel, i tried to listen to new music this Friday so i listened to this "new" compilation by Oakey called: "Four Seasons - Winter".

with names such as: Solarstone, Thomas Datt, plantet perfecto and Lange on the cover an OG like myself was led to believe he was in for a treat, in reality it was a torture. my ears were literally hurting.

If that cd is any indication to todays Trance then id rather listen to songs from Inna,David Guetta and that stupid Tacata song.

And now one of the 'regulars' will tell us that there's plenty of great trance out there that we are too lazy to find (of course he will not share any of it with us though).

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Originally posted by r5a sadly i started moving into post rock to help feel the need of looking for a long progression with great melody and sounds.

What's your favourite post-rock artist/band?
And what kind of post-rock; 1st wave stuff? 2nd wave? 3rd wave/crescendocore?

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Originally posted by r5a the fuck is happening?

Evil is consuming the earth, just kidding (half-kidding) I think it boils down to money, everyone is putting their stock in the sure thing

That's what happens when something gets a taste of mainstream success. They like, so they incorporate it more and more until it eventually overruns and destroys it.

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Originally posted by animator99999 I hate dubstep too. I suggest downloading the last 10 podcasts of DJ Orkidea - Radio Unity off iTunes....its great. Start with podcast 039. IMO its the best trance being produced these days.

Agree with this. Orkidea has a fantastic taste in electronic dance music.

OP: john 00 fleming has actually stayed to his roots, if I'm not mistaken, and is still releasing stuff on his label JOOF recordings. You might wanna check that out

Good music will always exist - artists will still create the styles you've grown to love. Top 100 charts may not always reflect personal taste, but things change over the years and the truest enthusiasts never rely on charts anyway. We've tried to keep some of the old classic styles going and there are some people who still enjoy that.

Check these producers out and if you don't find anything that you like, just build a timemachine or hope that someone is about to unveil it:

Timewave
Subtara
Airwave
Michael & Levan and Stiven Rivic
Miika Kuisma
Kay-D
Relaunch
Allende
Ambeam
MSZ
Suffused
Deep Soul Duo
Orkidea

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Originally posted by netroM What's your favourite post-rock artist/band? And what kind of post-rock; 1st wave stuff? 2nd wave? 3rd wave/crescendocore?

Yndi Halda, Lights Out Asia, The Seven Mile Journey, pg.lost. This will Destroy you & If These Trees could talk are artists I enjoy.

My alltime fav has to be Jakob - Lonesome. I lean into the dark post-rock stuff, maybe edging on the borders of drone but to me drone has way more elements and creativity then dub-step, even though some say it is just noise but the soundscapes you can create with a heavily delayed and efx'd geetar sound amazing to me.

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Agree with this. Orkidea has a fantastic taste in electronic dance music. OP: john 00 fleming has actually stayed to his roots, if I'm not mistaken, and is still releasing stuff on his label JOOF recordings. You might wanna check that out

Orkidea is great. I remember listening to him a long time ago on Oslo nights shows and I remember recalling this would be a guy to follow and stay into. I'll have to dig around him and find some stuff.

And yeah, J00F has done a fairly decent job of staying true to his roots.

It's sad that artists see the popularity and $ that going the top 40 can bring but the problem is only a few make it and those that tried to take a stab at getting into the limelight sacrificed their career and creativity. Not to mention it's just shit anyway.

What are some good labels to follow and check out these days?

Thanks for the tip on JOOF's recordings I actually bought some songs off BP a few months back.

Airwave is still doing stuff?

The electronic music scene got bigger and the pop music that sells rose to the top.

I love what Aly & Fila are playing these days. Check out their Future Sound of Egypt shows and look at tracklists and follow the path.

I look back at some of the electronic music I listened to from the years you mentioned, 98-02, and some of it bores me and realize it probably sounded better when I was smoking the funny stuff. There's more music than ever these days.

Listen to my Distant Places mix in my sig. I think you will enjoy it.

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Originally posted by r5a Airwave is still doing stuff?

Well everything is relative. The last year saw me remix moshic, Michael and levan and stiven rivic, art of trance, timewave, tastexperience, just to name a few. I released 3 singles with Airwave, 1 with planisphere, and I have a massive 28 track lp coming next October. But yeah, I understand that it's not always enough.

@Lolo, some people blame the scene for being too hard to follow, but then they even fail at the basics, which is to at least closely follow the not so many artists left that consistently produce good music... Btw your output is plenty enough and of the quality we appreciate.

Browsing through random releases in a record shop to find gems is the past and is not going to cut it anymore, you are just going to lose time and be left frustrated if you don't start to apply some strategies to your online music shopping (see System-J post in the dj forum).

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Originally posted by Trancefxs @Lolo, some people blame the scene for being too hard to follow, but then they even fail at the basics, which is to at least closely follow the not so many artists left that consistently produce good music... Btw your output is plenty enough and of the quality we appreciate. Browsing through random releases in a record shop to find gems is the past and is not going to cut it anymore, you are just going to lose time and be left frustrated if you don't start to apply some strategies to your online music shopping (see System-J post in the dj forum).

The least you can do is to link it.

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Originally posted by dj christian The least you can do is to link it.

I guess I have done the least now...

People are used to the days when the music they liked (progressive trance) was hugely popular and required no effort to follow. Trends have changed and now progressive trance is underground and harder to find. If you don't follow music unless it's right in front of your face, don't complain when the tides change and you're left stranded.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J People are used to the days when the music they liked (progressive trance) was hugely popular and required no effort to follow. Trends have changed and now progressive trance is underground and harder to find. If you don't follow music unless it's right in front of your face, don't complain when the tides change and you're left stranded.

There use to be people who handled all of this shit for us, we called them DJs.

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Originally posted by Viber There use to be people who handled all of this shit for us, we called them DJs.

Plenty of DJs still play this style of music. I'm lucky enough to be friends with some superb DJs who I've seen and heard play rocking sets of quality trance music. Once again, they're just not as popular as they used to be. Perhaps if people weren't so lazy, and got behind DJs and producers who weren't plastered all over the Beatport home page, these guys would get the credit they deserve.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Plenty of DJs still play this style of music. I'm lucky enough to be friends with some superb DJs who I've seen and heard play rocking sets of quality trance music. Once again, they're just not as popular as they used to be. Perhaps if people weren't so lazy, and got behind DJs and producers who weren't plastered all over the Beatport home page, these guys would get the credit they deserve.

Here is your chance to be a good friend to these DJs and link me up with their soundclouds

And i'm not lazy, its just hard to follow so many genres at the same time and its even harder to give trance a second chance when you get achy ears every time you try to find something new.

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Originally posted by r5a Yndi Halda, Lights Out Asia, The Seven Mile Journey, pg.lost. This will Destroy you & If These Trees could talk are artists I enjoy. My alltime fav has to be Jakob - Lonesome. I lean into the dark post-rock stuff, maybe edging on the borders of drone but to me drone has way more elements and creativity then dub-step, even though some say it is just noise but the soundscapes you can create with a heavily delayed and efx'd geetar sound amazing to me.

what about :
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Set Fire To Flames - Signs Reign Rebuilder
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Sigur R�s
Explosions in the Sky
Collapse Under The Empire
Russian Circles
Powder! Go Away
Slint - Spiderland

I think you might enjoy Flying Saucer Attack as well. Experimental droney rock

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J People are used to the days when the music they liked (progressive trance) was hugely popular and required no effort to follow. Trends have changed and now progressive trance is underground and harder to find. If you don't follow music unless it's right in front of your face, don't complain when the tides change and you're left stranded.

I'm not sure "lazy" is the right word to describe someone that has to mine 6,000 feet deep into the earth to uncover a decent trance tune. Most people have lives. The fact that I have to scour the earth for a decent song means there is a problem. I'm not lazy. Well I mean I am but not about this.

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