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Whens the last time you downloaded a tiesto set.

when i started on TA tiesto was king. now he's a joke. I've decided to download a set from July to see what he's like. i'm kind of excited to see how bad. kind of like when you're waiting in....TRAFFIC (LOOOOOOOOOOOL) and waiting to see what kind of accident is ahead of you. that's the type of anticipation i'm waiting for.

eeeeeee

post the set and lets talk

this thread sucks.

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Originally posted by tetatdo this thread sucks.

No offense but i think so too.

Well, if I would be Tiesto, why should I do something different based on these two lists I noticed earlier this month:

Last 12 months

1. Ti�sto � $22 million (�18 million)
2. Skrillex � $15 million (�12,3 million)
3. Swedish House Mafia � $14 million (�11,4 million)
4. David Guetta � $13,5 million (�11 million)
5. Steve Aoki � $12 million (�9,8 million)
6. Deadmau5 � $11,5 million (�9,4 million)
7. DJ Pauly D � $11 million (�9 million)
8. Kaskade � $10 million (�8,2 million)
9. Afrojack � $9 million (�7,4 million)
10. Avicii � $7 million (�5,7 million)

Total Dollar Euro

1 Ti�sto 65 million 52 million
2 Paul Oakenfold 55 million 44 million
3 Paul van Dyk 50 million 40 million
4 John Digweed 45 million 36 million
5 Armin Van Buuren 40 million 32 million
6 Sasha 40 million 32 million
7 Judge Jules 40 million 32 million
8 Pete Tong 30 million 24 million
9 Daft Punk (each) 30 million 24 million
10 Moby 28 million 22.4 million
11 David Guetta 25 million 20 million
12 Fatboy Slim 22 million 17.6 million
13 Steve Aoki 20 million 16 million
14 Ferry Corsten 18 million 14.4 million
15 The Chemical Brothers 15 million 12 million
16 Carl Cox 15 million 12 million
17 Benny Benassi 14 million 11.2 million
18 Deadmau5 12 million 9.6 million
19 Calvin Harris 10 million 8 million
20 ATB 8 million 6.4 million
21 Skrillex 8 million 6.4 million
22 Avicii 6 million 4.8 million
23 Gareth Emery 5 million 4 million
24 Swedish House Mafia (each) 4 million 3.2 million
25 Eric Prydz 4 million 3.2 million
26 Martin Solveig 3 million 2.4 million
27 Kaskade 3 million 2.4 million
28 Darude 2.5 million 2 million
29 Markus Schulz 2 million 1.6 million
30 Afrojack 2 million 1.6 million

2004-03

Last time I ever listened to a Tiesto set probably was back in 2005 with ISOS5 but I was slowly fading out of his music since the year prior. I heard a few of his tracks here and there, but I wasn't really drawn back into it.

Does this count???

http://soundcloud.com/spc/bwtds-tiesto

march....













2003.

Who cares, he moved on, most of us moved on, why keep thinking about an ex like that?

Magik 6

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Well, if I would be Tiesto, why should I do something different based on these two lists I noticed earlier this month:

this just in

how much money you make decides the quality of your music

i guess music just doesn't get any better than Dave Matthews, Lady Gaga, Bon Jovi and U2.

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Originally posted by hasbone this just in how much money you make decides the quality of your music i guess music just doesn't get any better than Dave Matthews, Lady Gaga, Bon Jovi and U2.

No, but the quality of his music probably isn't most important to him as a DJ. He is getting older you know.
I'm not saying there is a relation between money and quality either.

I used to like U2, long ago, but although I don't like their music after 1995, I still don't think U2 is a joke.

Last time I heard Tiesto was Nyana album. While I don't cry any tears over his complete amnesia of his roots, I can understand the reasoning.

One can continue to be an "underground" idol and be broke... or sell out completely when an opportunity presents itself. For every Armin, Afrowhack, and Skrillex that rises to the top, there are likes of JOOF, M.I.K.E., and countless others who are not as concerned with becoming a "pop brand".

The shit that Tiesto, Ferry, and even Armin play these days is a testament to the fact that if you want to be rich, you gotta follow the money.

Would I rather be rich and disliked by the so-called "cognoscenti" or remain a purist and have to keep my day job to not have to "sell out"? Pfft... where do I sign up for the "sell out" option?

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Originally posted by aNYthing The shit that Tiesto, Ferry, and even Armin play these days is a testament to the fact that if you want to be rich, you gotta follow the money. Would I rather be rich and disliked by the so-called "cognoscenti" or remain a purist and have to keep my day job to not have to "sell out"? Pfft... where do I sign up for the "sell out" option?

Do you really think these guys were dirt poor before they "sold out"? Even back then they didn't play some small basement club, they played massive festivals and superclubs on a weekly basis.

And while people like JOOF and Mike aren't exactly going to be millionaire material, they can still make a pretty damn good living with DJing.

Exactly. Even at the peak of trance in 2001 (well, that could be discussed) these guys were making big bucks playing everywhere. They are making even more now but back then they could still make in a weekend what many of us make in a year.

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Originally posted by Woony Do you really think these guys were dirt poor before they "sold out"? Even back then they didn't play some small basement club, they played massive festivals and superclubs on a weekly basis. And while people like JOOF and Mike aren't exactly going to be millionaire material, they can still make a pretty damn good living with DJing.

Depending on how far back you want to go. Back in 2000, I'd say "Armin" and people were like "Armin Who?". I remember driving up and down east coast to catch the likes of Armin, Tiesto, Ferry because they rarely showed up here. Until Ferry got a residence in Glow, we hardly had any trance DJs come to States on a regular basis. Festivals? The only festivals that existed was WMC - which was, as I still remember, a DJ-centric workshop/conference type of event, which eventually grew into Ultra. You also had Ultraworld parties in DC once or maybe 2x a year. That was pretty much it.

Now, it seems like there's a major event every 2 weeks. Hell, I remember when "trance" was still considered "techno" and no one knew about any of these "brand name DJs". I can even dig up Mixmag from early 2000 and all the festivals in Europe that made me so jealous had performer names in PLAIN TEXT. There were no Armin(TM), Tiesto(TM), Carl Cox(TM) logos plastering them.

Hell, you know EDM is main stream when TMZ!!! is covering Tiesto...

So, yes. I don't think too many were millionaires until they figured out how to milk this festival formula and/or started their own labels that attracted lots of talent

Quick show of hands (pun intended) - how many of you still get goosebumps watching Armin do his jesus pose? I wonder if that's trademarked yet?

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Originally posted by bucky Exactly. Even at the peak of trance in 2001 (well, that could be discussed) these guys were making big bucks playing everywhere. They are making even more now but back then they could still make in a weekend what many of us make in a year.

But for how long?
Question is if others wouldn't have done exactly the same, or even maybe tried but didn't succeed. Tiesto in an interview said he was lucky running into the right people, at the right time, giving him a push in the right direction.
Tiesto also didn't have the background Armin and Ferry had, that's something one mustn't forget.

I'm also not convinced for them it's only about the money like often is suggested.

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Originally posted by aNYthing Depending on how far back you want to go. Back in 2000, I'd say "Armin" and people were like "Armin Who?". I remember driving up and down east coast to catch the likes of Armin, Tiesto, Ferry because they rarely showed up here. Until Ferry got a residence in Glow, we hardly had any trance DJs come to States on a regular basis. Festivals? The only festivals that existed was WMC - which was, as I still remember, a DJ-centric workshop/conference type of event, which eventually grew into Ultra. You also had Ultraworld parties in DC once or maybe 2x a year. That was pretty much it.

You seem to have a very US-centric perspective. Trance was absolutely MASSIVE in Europe around the turn of the millenium. It was borderline mainstream.

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Originally posted by Woony You seem to have a very US-centric perspective. Trance was absolutely MASSIVE in Europe around the turn of the millenium. It was borderline mainstream.

True, at the same time US constitutes a HUGE chunk of performer's earnings these days.

bottom line: I don't think many of these guys were millionaires up until very recently (perhaps 2007-ish?)

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Originally posted by Woony You seem to have a very US-centric perspective. Trance was absolutely MASSIVE in Europe around the turn of the millenium. It was borderline mainstream.

I think the (speed of increasing) number of people at the Love Parades show pretty good the development of trance popularity over here, regardless the fact that it wasn't just trance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Parade

last tiesto set I heard was at nature one 2008 and it was surprisingly good, but I think it went downhill after that

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Originally posted by aNYthing Festivals? The only festivals that existed was WMC - which was, as I still remember, a DJ-centric workshop/conference type of event, which eventually grew into Ultra.

Very US-centric perspective. Creamfields, Homelands, Gatecrasher Summer Sound System, Glastonbury, etc.

Also, do you remember Moby's Area One and Area Two festival tours?

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Originally posted by aNYthing True, at the same time US constitutes a HUGE chunk of performer's earnings these days. bottom line: I don't think many of these guys were millionaires up until very recently (perhaps 2007-ish?)

Here's a TA thread from 2001 in which people suggest Oakenfold is making tens of thousands per gig. Here's a thread from 2005 on "millionaire trance DJs?".

Yes, the market is much bigger and much more lucrative now than in the past, but Tiesto and Paul van Dyk were living comfortably years ago.

nice to see diggers up there on the list!

top 30 dj's net worth.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/ar...est-djs-world/#!/

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Daft Punk (each) 30 million 24 million

30 million dollars for the most overrated act (which only does copy-paste)? Seems legit.

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