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Hey guys, I hope the ban for tiesto14 is not forever. He seemed to be a good person who only turned a little crazy these last days. I don�t know what is going on but many people is acting really wierd lately with all this alliances thing.
Anyway, he made great contributions to the other forums, especially the music forum; and I don�t think is fair to ban him forever just because of his passion for his country. Well, he crossed the line a little, ok, but before this, tiesto14 was a great member of this forum and he deserves a second chance.

Note that I have nothing against America or Europe, I�m just here as an impartial person and this has nothing to do with politics, but with the banning of a great member.

Take this up with swamper, he broke the rules many times, in many forums, and annoyed a lot of people

If you saw the full story, you would understand better

There is nothing to discuss here!

End of thread IMO

and i just wanted to add that tiesto is scared to death because he's afraid of alienfactory and paul wilson during his first night at jail , those guys are finally gonna have some "fresh meat" woahahahaha

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Originally posted by fastmp3 and i just wanted to add that tiesto is scared to death because he's afraid of alienfactory and paul wilson during his first night at jail , those guys are finally gonna have some "fresh meat" woahahahaha

Paul Wilson is not in "jail"...

he's in alcatraz you mean , da fuck in jail or not he still enjoys having fun with alienfactory and very soon with tiesto14

True Terriost 2 the TA community

i never really followed tiesto14 assault on ta community...i mean i gotta give him props. this guy was a terriost. hes the only person that bombed the chillout room. he went out with class. even though i am gonna egg his house...hes still cool. guys remember he was smoking the good shit which is rare since mexican borders are heavily gaurded since 9/11. hey tiesto14... 2 chat so i can laugh...ur a funny guy!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHA

I must have miss something can any1 sum up the situation for those who missed the story like me?

im glad T 14 is gone

his threads at the weekend were toal spam and basically a load of crap.

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Originally posted by flystyler If you saw the full story, you would understand better

I�ve seen the FULL story, belive me, I visit these forums several hours a day since many many time ago (I�m just a little quiet), and exactly for that is that I think this is an unfair decission.

And please don�t come with this kind of replies:

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Originally posted by flystyler There is nothing to discuss here! End of thread IMO

You don�t know the huge effort I have to make to write this words in english, and I don�t feel you�re respecting my post. I made a serious post and I don�t think it is appropiate to post that, neither this:

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Originally posted by fastmp3 and i just wanted to add that tiesto is scared to death because he's afraid of alienfactory and paul wilson during his first night at jail , those guys are finally gonna have some "fresh meat" woahahahaha

It's very unusual for one with a custom status to just snap, but I guess it can happen. I never really minded Tiesto14 and I kinda liked him when he first came around. I dunno if he was just deeply misunderstood for his strong feeling about America or what it was that finally drove him to the edge.

I do know that these boards aren't what they once used to be...there's been alot of hostility lately. We all come from different parts of the world, and if one has strong views on an issue learn to accept their belief not criticize them for it.

Let's all remind ourselves that you can show pride in your country without being childish...tiesto14 failed to do this. Yes, he did contribute a lot of good posts/threads to the board but then again he went way overboard in the past couple of days. He knew if he did this he would probably get banned, so let him suffer the consequences.

I say, ban him...but not forever.

fly and fast please behave.

many greetings,

f0x

my 2 cents--

i can understand why tiesto14 made those several threads a few days ago (not the ones from yesterday)... he already said why, it was because he was sick of all the america bashing threads.

i agree with that. in fact, i am very, very close to never posting in TA again (with the exception of the region forums)... because i am really fucking sick and tired of every thread either beginning with or turning into america bashing. i get annoyed with having to defend myself while 15 people tell me that im just a stupid ignorant american, or ... OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

tiesto14 already said, he made all those threads the first time to make all of you realize what people like him or me have to deal with every day... all sorts of bullshit threads.

that being said, i dont condone what he did yesterday. but again, i do understand why he did it before... and while it may have been too far, at least i got the point of it, even if none of you did.

there is an ignore option, if you don't like someone, just put them on your ignore list, and then you won't see their posts.

Surely its not 100% of Europeans on this board that Tiesto14 had a problem with?

I think he should have tried to speak to the people he had the problems with instead of posting multiple threads that were against europeans.

A lot of people on the board that are newer wouldnt have seen the anti-american posts from before and then they see anti-european threads going up.

If it was my first day/week on the board and i seen multiple anti-europe/american/whatever threads being posted then i dont think I would have liked the board very much.

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there is an ignore option, if you don't like someone, just put them on your ignore list, and then you won't see their posts.

i would have to use the ignore command on at least half of the active chill room participants to escape all the america bashing.. tho i would still see it in thread names.

no thanks. if it gets to that point, i dont need to post here anymore.

in my opinion...

t14 has said things in the past that were very childish, immature, or even belligerent - and on several occasions.

but, i also feel like some other people on this board have too been just as bad, or even worse than t14. yet they still remain a member on this board.

those people, the few that i'm talking about in above, are so quick to cast judgements on everyone. they would rather go out of their way to flame someone than just either help out or IGNORE the post eniterly.

i use to like posting topics or messages, but now i don't as much cause of all the negativity.

and i also agree with t14 and sothis about the american bashing. NEWSFLASH, not every american fits the cookie cutter stereotype of an american. in fact in every country, you'll find natives that are like "american" assholes.

I don't wanna comment on what he did but.. Why there is so many threads about his behaviour? He made a few spam for "his cause", that turns him into a "TA celebrity" everyone's discussing if he's right or wrong? I think it's enough...

Conclusion: Tiesto14 act childishly but at the same time was obviously irritated by the admittedly high amount of anti-american postings. He did to others what he himself tried to fight against--> prejudices. This is pretty stupid and cant be justitfied. However we shouldnt only concentrate on his rampage this the weekend but also look at the reasons which lead to that explosion. With september 11th coming back to the News headlines the forum got more and more filled by threads regarding this topic. Most of them were full of criticism against the US politics AND the American people themselves (yes, some were generalizing ) which eventually lead to a huge split up: USA vs. rest of the world.
Okay I just realized that Im writing this out of boredom without aiming fr some point to make..so am..to make it short: Forgive tiesto14 (think about his other postings as well) and think about your own mistakes , too. (regardless of his beahvior!).

bla

the windows thread was kinda funny though. hehe. i laughed my ass off.

Paul Wilson is back as ocean wave...i thought the sheriff was dead

Funny you comeback.....after dissing ta and most of us on other boards and now you comeback....hmmmmmm......ironic ain't it. Oh well....the past is finished.

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Originally posted by Ocean Wave Paul Wilson is not in "jail"...

Ocean Wave = Paul Wilson

As for America bashing, yes there has been plenty of that going on but at the same time unfortunatly whilst trying to defend his country and the american way (understandable of course) tiesto14 managed to upset a lot of ppl, his downfall was his temper, he was very reactionary (again understandable to a degree) He needed to think about what he was saying b4 he posted, he did make some very intelligent posts but like i said his temper was his downfall and his sheer frustration at the end where he spammed this forum with umpteen random rubbish threads and his last one begging to be banned was just that one step too far.

i do belive that this week will be a bad week for the American's on this forum, not only have they got to contend with dealing with 9/11 over again, their TV must be full of it, bringing up the heartache of it all again but they also got to consider that America is again on the verge of War with Iraq. there will be a lot of threads dealing with 9/11 and one year after after the fight with the taliban and osma some ppl will have widely different veiws on whats happend in the last year.
we are a multinational and multicultural forum here and as long as the debates / arguements dont get to personal bashing and flameing then i see no reason in why intelligent discussion should go ahead about 9/11.

Sorry, no time for people who waste my time.

As far as the 'America bashing' goes, some people just love to hate America I guess.
I don't.
I look at it like this.
The more successful one (or something) is; ie. the higher they are on the success ladder, the more their ass is exposed.
So it shouldn't be a big surprise that everyone likes to pick on the States...
The question is, are the successful that insecure?
They shouldn't be...being humble and a quiet confidence bodes well on anyones shoulders.

T14 reacted like a little school grader, which to be blunt, is sad because he totally underminded his own arguements.
If it wasn't for that, I'd say he could stay.
Blurting something out in a face to face in the heat of the moment is one thing BUT the fact that he took the time to actually create those posts means he was deliberate in his actions.
I think banning would be justified.

well he was being a jackass

and pouf outta nowhere


he went nuts


I guess he could have pleaded his case before; but once he flipped out especially to the extent he did ; I don't think that's excusable

we will never forget 9/11

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