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Posted by OrangestO on Aug-28-2012 02:38:

Fire & Ice

In your opinion, what do these two words symbolize?


Posted by Sushipunk on Aug-28-2012 02:41:

Hot and cold?


Posted by aquila on Aug-28-2012 02:42:

it simply means fire and ice.


Posted by BTG on Aug-28-2012 02:43:

too easy


Posted by Guest on Aug-28-2012 02:45:

White Walkers.


Posted by on Aug-28-2012 03:00:


Posted by OrangestO on Aug-28-2012 03:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Hot and cold?


lol

I know you can do better than that.

I'm looking for some deeper meanings here.

There's a lot of smart people in the COR. Impress me.


Posted by Intellekshual on Aug-28-2012 03:39:

Desire and anger. Destructive forces, essentially.


Posted by meriter on Aug-28-2012 04:38:


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-28-2012 04:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Jon_Snow


awesome.. i was actually thinking hte same thing.



Posted by Lagrangian on Aug-28-2012 07:39:

Re: Fire & Ice

quote:
Originally posted by OrangestO
In your opinion, what do these two words symbolize?


Boundaries.

Fire -- Max

Ice -- Min


Posted by Acton on Aug-28-2012 08:37:

Fire - The visible aspect of the exothermic oxidation of various substances.

Ice - The transparent, crystalline solid state of water molecules.

They don't really symbolise anything to me, they are what they are.


Posted by Vector A on Aug-28-2012 12:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
Fire - The visible aspect of the exothermic oxidation of various substances.

Ice - The transparent, crystalline solid state of water molecules.

They don't really symbolise anything to me, they are what they are.

Darn scientists, always unweaving the rainbow.


Posted by aquila on Aug-28-2012 12:11:






Posted by Acton on Aug-28-2012 12:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Vector A
Darn scientists, always unweaving the arc in the sky of visible light caused by the refraction, reflection and further refraction of electromagnetic radiation passing through water droplets in the Earths atmosphere.


Fixed!


Posted by OrangestO on Aug-28-2012 12:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
Fire - The visible aspect of the exothermic oxidation of various substances.

Ice - The transparent, crystalline solid state of water molecules.

They don't really symbolise anything to me, they are what they are.


No shit

Point for Intellekshual. The rest of you guys suck


Posted by Acton on Aug-28-2012 12:57:

quote:
Originally posted by OrangestO
No shit


You asked, you got. That's how I see them.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-28-2012 14:32:

For me, seeing the two together in that phrase conjures a literal visual image of fire burning amongst ice, and so the phrase has connotations of magic or natural wonder, as well the properties of the two elements: clarity and delicacy of ice coupled with the vibrance and movement of dancing flames. That's pretty much how my brain works when interpreting poetic imagery, I suppose.

I always took it that the phrase was supposed to mean two opposite extremes - two things or people utterly opposite to each other, as demonstrated by the classic Spinal Tap moment:



I would personally say it's slightly arbitrary to call fire desire and ice anger - why wouldn't anger by fiery, and if so why would desire by icy? But then, poetic symbolism has a tendency to be arbitrary.


Posted by Intellekshual on Aug-28-2012 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I would personally say it's slightly arbitrary to call fire desire and ice anger - why wouldn't anger by fiery, and if so why would desire by icy? But then, poetic symbolism has a tendency to be arbitrary.

Are you familiar with Robert Frost's poem?


"Some say the world will end in fire,
some say in ice.
from what i've tasted of desire
i hold those who favor fire.
but if it had to perish twice
I think I know enough of hate to say
that for destruction, ice
is also great and would suffice."

I could probably summarize Fire & Ice in one word = Lilith.


Posted by Acton on Aug-28-2012 14:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Intellekshual
"Some say the world will end in fire,
some say in ice.
from what i've tasted of desire
i hold those who favor fire.
but if it had to perish twice
I think I know enough of hate to say
that for destruction, ice
is also great and would suffice."


Fire. Definitely fire


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Aug-28-2012 14:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Intellekshual
Are you familiar with Robert Frost's poem?


No, but I would say from reading it that ice symbolises hate, not anger, which is an important distinction.


Posted by Intellekshual on Aug-28-2012 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
No, but I would say from reading it that ice symbolises hate, not anger, which is an important distinction.

You're right. I realize that upon reading it again. I only vaguely remembered how it went.


Posted by Banora on Aug-28-2012 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Acton
Fire - The visible aspect of the exothermic oxidation of various substances.

Ice - The transparent, crystalline solid state of water molecules.

They don't really symbolise anything to me, they are what they are.


This is what I was going to say, but you beat me to it.


Posted by on Aug-28-2012 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
awesome.. i was actually thinking hte same thing.

I attribute this song for my weakness for girls named Sara (excluding Palin of course). But who could resist a song of fire and ice?


Posted by Trance-M on Aug-28-2012 20:11:

Also: "Easily upset" & "Always calm" (people in the south of Europe) & (people in the north of Europe) e.g. "Kimi R�ikk�nen" = The Iceman.


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