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Posted by Helta on Sep-11-2002 11:14:

Recording a Set to MP3

Until recently, I've recorded my sets on either Tape, or MP3, but I've been wanting to record into Mp3, and I wanted to know how....

I've got the hardware set up, and programs like Winamp see my mixer's input because the visulisation bar thingy is moving and sound comes out of the PC headphones,

So I can stream into winamp, but I don't know how to save into mp3, I know winamp has a disk writer plugin but I don't think that will work because the input is a stream and not a complete file,

If anyone can let me know what sortware I need to actually record/edit these sets, I'd appreciate it...


Posted by Spin Doctor on Sep-11-2002 12:35:

Re: Recording a Set to MP3

quote:
Originally posted by Helta
Tape, or MP3, but I've been wanting to record into Mp3


Then you should already know how!

Seriously though, you�ve obviously got it set up correctly hardware wise. To record your mix and edit it you�ll need an audio editing program such as Sound Forge or Cool Edit. I personally prefer Cool Edit but it�s all down to personal preference. Record your mix into this then you can edit it to make it shorter or whatever, then split it up into tracks so you can burn it on CD or convert it to MP3 using EAC or a similar program!


Posted by hey cheggy on Sep-11-2002 14:00:

Spin doctor, how do you split it up into tracks. The only way i know of is to cut the entire track up into seperate parts and save them individually. I'm using sound forge, i just want to know (using any program) how to do this, and with what program.


Posted by Helta on Sep-11-2002 14:13:

Lol, I meant MD

Yeh, my friend had a copy of Soundforge, so we stuck that on it, but it's pretty awful,

The soundcard is crappy, and so can only record at upto a 100,000 bitrate, and it sounds either
a) Really quiet and crackley, when put through the linein
or
b) Stupidly loud and clipping, when put through the mic,

While tweaking stuff on the mixer does help a little, they both sound secord rate.


Posted by hey cheggy on Sep-11-2002 14:19:

Get a new soundcard then. You don't have to pay heaps, you can get decent ones pretty cheap


Posted by DJ Dowlz on Sep-11-2002 14:25:

The program I use is called Messer and it does everything I want a recording program to do. It allows you to record directly to mp3 (so no need for an enormous wave file) and the quality is perfect.


Posted by Spin Doctor on Sep-11-2002 15:05:

quote:
Originally posted by hey cheggy
Spin doctor, how do you split it up into tracks. The only way i know of is to cut the entire track up into seperate parts and save them individually. I'm using sound forge, i just want to know (using any program) how to do this, and with what program.


There are some programs floating about on the net that can take MP3 or WAV files and split it at a given time point. I�m sorry but I can�t for the life of me remember any of their names. Thing is there not very accurate especially if you want the track split at a specific point on the CD. If your burning in Nero, you can actually burn the whole .wav as one file and tell the program where and when you want track splits in. This is handy if you want a quick and easy job but I�ve found it�s not very accurate. I find that the best way is to cut the main recording into separate tracks in your sound editor, after saving a backup of course, and burn them as separate tracks. This takes time but you�ll get the most accurate results. Unfortunately I�ve only had experience using Cool Edit Pro so I can�t really help you with Sound Forge issues.

quote:
Originally posted by Helta
The soundcard is crappy, and so can only record at upto a 100,000 bitrate, and it sounds either
a) Really quiet and crackley, when put through the linein
or
b) Stupidly loud and clipping, when put through the mic,


This may not be a problem with the sound card. Plug the output you want to record from your mixer into you Line In. Then get a tune playing on one of you turntables and open up the fader for that Input. Next get the gain so that the main, loudest part of the track peaks at 0dB, just as it normally would. Then open up the program your using for recording have a look through the options and settings and make sure it�s set to record the correct input from the correct sound card. Tell the thing to record. While it�s recording open up the Sound Mixer / Volume Control that comes inbuilt in windows. Search for your Line In control and adjust until it peaks at about �2 to �3db. This is just to ensure you don�t end up clipping the recording. Now stop recording, open up an new session and go ahead and record you mix. Then when your done you can amplify/dynamic process the wav so it�s loud as it can go with out clipping!

Hope this helps guys! If your still stuck post and I�ll try and help some more


Posted by hey cheggy on Sep-11-2002 15:26:

Spin doctor, when you say nero does it, but not accurately, do you mean that it sounds dodgy where the track markers are put in, or that they aren't exactly on time. Cos I don't care if they're like a second off or anything. As long as I don't have to fast forward for ten minutes to get to the last track.

Also, would you be able to explain how to do it on nero. My mate has it but said he doesn't know how to insert track markers.


Posted by Spin Doctor on Sep-11-2002 15:53:

Create a new Nero session for an Audio CD. Find your saved mix, (it can be either .wav or .mp3) and copy it to the compilation. Right click on the title of the file in the CD window and select Properties. A new window should pop up. Click the Indexes, Limits and Split tab. You�ll see a black box in the window and Nero will scan the file and display a Waveform in this box. Once it�s finished scanning you can create a split by selection where you want it in the Waveform and pressing New Index. Once you�re done choosing where you want the splits hit OK and then burn the CD as you normally would. Have a play around with this and you�ll see what I mean about accuracy. I still say it's best to do it yourself in your Audio Editor.


Posted by hey cheggy on Sep-11-2002 16:02:

okay, cheers mate. I'll have a look into it and see if it's close enough


Posted by Spin Doctor on Sep-11-2002 16:54:

Glad to help.



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