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Can someone help me with these chords? (jazzy kinda chords)

I've been trying for an hour now I think, from what I understand he's playing in the blues scale with some off scale notes, I like the dissonance and the way the chords resolve but I can't wrap my head around it, I become clueless in front of my keyboard.

I'm interested in the way he plays those chords between 0:15 and 0:30



What chords are those? how does he know what to play so it resolves so nicely?

If anybody could help or tell me if theres a name for that kind of stuff so I can google it, I would appreciate alot, thanks

I can't help on the chords, but I can tell you that was horrible to listen to.

pretty simple but his voicings are atrocious.

to give you some context.

he is playing

a ii V i progression in g minor

best way is to just start off with the simplest voicing and add / subtract from there

the dominant is on D but it is a suspended dominant meaning you have a 4 instead of the 3.
i is on G
The Eb chord is a 3rd inversion half dimished chord

that embellisment chord is a technique in jazz using parallel chords in this case jumping to A.

the bass note would be

Eb, D , G , A

The soprano note is D(alteres the ii chord) held for the V i and then chords up a whole tone to E.

start off with simple 7th chords. And then go from there.


here just use this as a starting place

#1 Eb , G, A , D,
#2 D , - , - , - ( #1 but lower the eb. Chord is a Dsus4)
F , G, Bb, D ( i) but 4rth inversion
G, A , C, E (same + 2 semitones as # 3 )

Haha, man I wish I knew the names of notes and shit, I bet my music would be a lot better if I did.

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Originally posted by itsamemario Haha, man I wish I knew the names of notes and shit, I bet my music would be a lot better if I did.

I don't see how.

the names of notes are not really going to do much. Like learning the alphabet. Takes a little more to spell cookie.

Oh, I know cookies! But it's a bit easier to write down my prize winning cookie recipes if you know how to read and write, no?

ya

but learning notes is like learning letters. Now consider how much time it took you to learn to write. And also consider you learn really really really fast when you are a kid. I think you just meant learning the sort of theory chops i gots. I think it is worth it. I also thought practicing a chromatic scale for 3 years so that i could play flight of the bumble bee so fast that girls would orgasm looking at my fingers. bees turn girls on.

but jazz is hard. It is an extension of classical tonal theory. So you kinda should learn that first which is a lot of stuff. Granted some people don't but whatever.

jazz is hard but the blues is simple. in the best possible sense of the word.

blues is pretty much the general framework of jazz. You can listen to some really weird sounding shit and chances are they are using a standard 12 bar blues.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Now consider how much time it took you to learn to write. And also consider you learn really really really fast when you are a kid.

The first part is right, not the second.
We don't learn any faster as children, we're just immersed in the material we're being taught for long hours every day of the week. Consider that it takes a child learning their native language generally 8 or 9 years before they're able to have a self reflective, meaningful, or articulate conversation.

Music is the same way, you have to put in the hours if you want to become articulate.

There's such a thing as adult plasticity if you just have enough time to spend on something which is where we get our 50,000 hour rule.

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Originally posted by Astralist The first part is right, not the second. We don't learn any faster as children where we get our 50,000 hour rule.

That works out to 34 years at 4 hrs, every day.

I think you might be referring to Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell.
The 10 000 hrs has been debunked anyway, because there are no proofs or tests and he sucked it out his thumb.

The developing mind of a child is very much geared to learning languages faster, it has physiological differences to an adult brain to enable this.
If this makes it true for music as a language, I do not know, but it makes sense.

If it is going to take me 10 000 hrs, then I'm fucked, and should not even try. :P

Pff, wuss.

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Originally posted by Astralist The first part is right, not the second. We don't learn any faster as children, we're just immersed in the material we're being taught for long hours every day of the week.

nope

kids learn quicker. Adults brains are plastic, but consider that a kids brain is actually growing. Sure if you just take one topic that would require what a kid know at age 19, it won't pan out that way but kids take in more information and retain it.

And in some subjects like language , you have about a 4 year window to learn it or you will never truly grasp it.

this should be easy.. instead of starting a new thread i'll just ask here


what are the chords to this opening progression

the 3 chords played on the synth brass right at the beginning

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney pretty simple but his voicings are atrocious. to give you some context. he is playing a ii V i progression in g minor best way is to just start off with the simplest voicing and add / subtract from there the dominant is on D but it is a suspended dominant meaning you have a 4 instead of the 3. i is on G The Eb chord is a 3rd inversion half dimished chord that embellisment chord is a technique in jazz using parallel chords in this case jumping to A. the bass note would be Eb, D , G , A The soprano note is D(alteres the ii chord) held for the V i and then chords up a whole tone to E. start off with simple 7th chords. And then go from there. here just use this as a starting place #1 Eb , G, A , D, #2 D , - , - , - ( #1 but lower the eb. Chord is a Dsus4) F , G, Bb, D ( i) but 4rth inversion G, A , C, E (same + 2 semitones as # 3 )

god damn! thanks looney! i'm gonna go decode all of this on my keyboard now

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Originally posted by meriter this should be easy.. instead of starting a new thread i'll just ask here what are the chords to this opening progression the 3 chords played on the synth brass right at the beginning

this one doesn't have a typical tonal progression in that it is just parallel chords with intermediate chords formed from voice leading.

basically the chords are

Em 7
Dm7
Cmaj7

which then acts as a aug6 type chord leading to the dominant on B,

the chords formed between those are basically the 1 and the 5 of the chord moving step wise down while the other notes stay the same.

E,G,B,D
Eb,G,Bb,D ( 3rd and 7th still the same)

repeated one tone down

D,F,A,C
Db,F,Ab,C

then the temporary resting point before the dominant

C,E,G,B

The easiest way to parse this stuff if you haven't learned to just recognize chord sonorities is to focus on the top line/ D,D,C,C,B . Then the bass. E,Eb,D,Db, C

Then listen to the inner voices.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney this one doesn't have a typical tonal progression in that it is just parallel chords with intermediate chords formed from voice leading. basically the chords are Em 7 Dm7 Cmaj7 which then acts as a aug6 type chord leading to the dominant on B, the chords formed between those are basically the 1 and the 5 of the chord moving step wise down while the other notes stay the same. E,G,B,D Eb,G,Bb,D ( 3rd and 7th still the same) repeated one tone down D,F,A,C Db,F,Ab,C then the temporary resting point before the dominant C,E,G,B The easiest way to parse this stuff if you haven't learned to just recognize chord sonorities is to focus on the top line/ D,D,C,C,B . Then the bass. E,Eb,D,Db, C Then listen to the inner voices.

Thanks Clooney I know some of these words.


The chords are spot on, no idea how you were able to figure that out but thanks once again. I wish I was wired for this sort of thing

honestly that is like my 7th or 8th

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