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Posted by sirbinkai on Oct-04-2012 22:08:

Anyone else been moving to Psy lately?

Over the last year particularly, i've been fed up with a lot of the mainstream trance. However John 00 Fleming showed me a whole new world. I've found to really love "Psy-Trance" if you will, and also the more progressive side. My favorite artists right now are Airwave, John 00 Fleming, Timewave, and Lyctum. Anyone else been making a migration toward the more Psy oriented trance? What do you like about it?


Posted by Woony on Oct-04-2012 22:34:

People here have been moving towards more psy influenced sounds for years since it's pretty much the only style of trance left that has even an ounce of credibility.


Posted by netroM on Oct-04-2012 22:47:

I've been into Goa for a while. Suntrip Records <3


Posted by trancedanne on Oct-04-2012 22:54:

Always found psy to be so fucking boring, thats what killed GOA music. Those producers you mention fuse psy and regular trance together and thats why it works. Regular psy is as bad and generic as the crap Armin play every week


Posted by narcism on Oct-04-2012 23:21:

Love it. Fav bit is the basslines :P

From the list of Artists you mentioned you will also like these:

Activa - just made the progression from trance to psy, love his new sound http://soundcloud.com/activa/activa-live-midnight

Ovnimoon- http://soundcloud.com/ovnimoon/ovni...nd-dj-set-10-12 (sound quality isn't the best)

Protonica- http://soundcloud.com/protonica/for...n-album-preview

Personally, I really enjoy progpsy loving everything Ritmo touches these days, quite possibly my fav dj. Love Captain Hook as a producer, am yet to see him play (will be rectified next month when I get to stalk him over Oz).

Best song of last year.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-05-2012 00:24:

Everyone is heading over to psy now. While I enjoy dancing to it and prefer it over execreble fluff/electro/vocal trance, I'm not really convinced it's the future. Even the respectable names like Ovnimoon, E Clip, Ritmo and so on have a very generic and predictable sound that recycles the same few techniques and timbres. It just happens that the formula they follow is a little more credible than that of mainstream trance, but it still gets pretty dull pretty fast.

The stuff I really love is essentially deep, progressive trance with a minor psychedelic twist: stuff like Solar Fields or Cosmithex.


Posted by Adam420 on Oct-05-2012 01:07:

I've listened to psy-trance since like 1997. Haven't in a while though.


Posted by rdevito on Oct-05-2012 02:12:

I'm not moving because i never left. Always listened to Full On Psy Trance but started listening Prog Psy only a year ago, and i thank that to mr. J00F


Posted by InnerReflection on Oct-05-2012 04:02:

I moved to it pretty much after I got into mainstream trance.

My dad listened to trance (and so did I) when I was about 3. I got into it again when I heard an advertisement on the TV for gatecrasher classics and recognised some of the songs.

I then very quickly realised there weren't even enough decent trance tracks to fill a 3 disc cd, let alone enough to listen to.

I'd definitely be up for more euro trance if there was more of it that was reasonably complicated.
quote:
Originally posted by trancedanne
Always found psy to be so fucking boring, thats what killed GOA music. Those producers you mention fuse psy and regular trance together and thats why it works. Regular psy is as bad and generic as the crap Armin play every week

Depends on what you mean by regular psy.

The stuff that's played at the local psytrance club and at doofs here is usually pretty interesting. Generic full on is still much better than ASOT fodder really too IMO.

Anyway, the "why psy is better than trance" discussion is probably a bit pointless (apart from everyone listing why they moved over).

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Everyone is heading over to psy now. While I enjoy dancing to it and prefer it over execreble fluff/electro/vocal trance, I'm not really convinced it's the future. Even the respectable names like Ovnimoon, E Clip, Ritmo and so on have a very generic and predictable sound that recycles the same few techniques and timbres. It just happens that the formula they follow is a little more credible than that of mainstream trance, but it still gets pretty dull pretty fast.

I reckon it'll be around for a long time, it has a umm, quite unique culture. There's always the underground innovative stuff, and there'll always be lighter versions of that stuff coming out. Even if omnivoon and all become cheese there'll be the next wave of producers making decent stuff.

I mean there's been at least 20 very decent albums coming out every year since at least 95, I don't think that it's going to suddenly die any time soon. It may become a lot cheesier and good stuff may become a lot harder to find, but there's always so much stuff being released and a fair bit of that is quite good.


Posted by djnitride on Oct-05-2012 06:00:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Everyone is heading over to psy now. While I enjoy dancing to it and prefer it over execreble fluff/electro/vocal trance, I'm not really convinced it's the future. Even the respectable names like Ovnimoon, E Clip, Ritmo and so on have a very generic and predictable sound that recycles the same few techniques and timbres. It just happens that the formula they follow is a little more credible than that of mainstream trance, but it still gets pretty dull pretty fast.

The stuff I really love is essentially deep, progressive trance with a minor psychedelic twist: stuff like Solar Fields or Cosmithex.


Have to agree with this. While J00F and others can pull psy off really well, I generally prefer the other parts of his sets. The slower, more progy stuff I have always found to have a much more diverse and interesting sound compared to most psyprogish type productions.

I would take J00Fs "Deeper Side" mix and the first half of his 2010 EM over psyprog anyday.


Posted by rawbound on Oct-05-2012 06:37:

One of few sub-genres I've never been into and probably never will be either.


Posted by TheTranceAddic on Oct-05-2012 09:07:

Thank you to those who won't be moving onto psyscene.
We don't need anymore douches like you anyway...This is how uplifting trance got so exhausted and butchered, because we had an influx of assholes like you,who ruined it for the people who did enjoy it. The less popular a particular trance genre is the better...Lets keep it that way...


Posted by Storyteller on Oct-05-2012 10:49:

For a moment there I thought "Gangnam Style!" when reading the title.


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Oct-05-2012 14:58:

I've heard some psy I liked (had to make a mix of the stuff for a TA genre competition a few years back), some that bored me... not something I'd go out of my way to listen but I like J00F and Solar Fields and other artists who are making, like Jack said, "deep progressive trance with psychedelic influences". It's the sound that most closely resembles the golden days of the progressive trance that I love.

The actual genre of "progpsy" though, I d/led a few mixes and it just kinda plodded and bored me. Anybody have recommendations for good progpsy?


Posted by Mattsanity. on Oct-05-2012 17:44:

quote:
Originally posted by rawbound
One of few sub-genres I've never been into and probably never will be either.


co-sign

the only full-on I ever digged was a couple of john digweed tracks.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-05-2012 17:50:

Stop trolling, Matt.


Posted by Mattsanity. on Oct-05-2012 18:13:

that joke was wack indeed.

I can only tolerate psy trance if it has progressive condiments.


Posted by Mattsanity. on Oct-05-2012 19:36:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=1&pagenumber=1

if ziptnf was around at the time, he would've laid the smackdown on me


Posted by narcism on Oct-07-2012 07:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
The actual genre of "progpsy" though, I d/led a few mixes and it just kinda plodded and bored me. Anybody have recommendations for good progpsy?


http://soundcloud.com/ritmomusic/ritmo-dj-mix-sep-2012
1. Perfect Stranger - Sweet Water Dolphin (Motion Drive Rmx) || Iono Music

2. Astrix - Vicious Cycles || Hommega Productions

3. Ace Ventura - Presence (Interactive Noise Rmx) || Spin Twist Records

4. D-Addiction & Basic - Keep The Frequency || Hommega Productions

5. NOK - All Around || Blue Tunes Records

6. Gaudium & RITMO - Arctic || Upcoming release - Iboga Trance

7. Ace Ventura & Zen Mechanics - Mind = God || Iboga Trance

8. Protonica - Subground || Iono Music

9. RITMO & Egorythmia - Spin It (Gaudium Rmx) || Upcoming release - Iono Music

10. Cosma - The Time Has Come (Rocky & Symbolic Rmx) || Hommega Productions

http://soundcloud.com/astrix-offici...nce4nations-010

http://soundcloud.com/e-clip/e-clip...2012-iono-music


Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on Oct-07-2012 09:25:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Everyone is heading over to psy now. While I enjoy dancing to it and prefer it over execreble fluff/electro/vocal trance, I'm not really convinced it's the future. Even the respectable names like Ovnimoon, E Clip, Ritmo and so on have a very generic and predictable sound that recycles the same few techniques and timbres. It just happens that the formula they follow is a little more credible than that of mainstream trance, but it still gets pretty dull pretty fast.

The stuff I really love is essentially deep, progressive trance with a minor psychedelic twist: stuff like Solar Fields or Cosmithex.


System is 110% right with this post.

Some elements of psy and goa have been around for well over a decade. Literally identical, there are moments of brilliance, but it still ends up giving you an earache after a long listen.


Posted by InnerReflection on Oct-07-2012 09:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch

The actual genre of "progpsy" though, I d/led a few mixes and it just kinda plodded and bored me. Anybody have recommendations for good progpsy?

Solar field's albums are awesome, not sure if most of the stuff counts as progpsy, but I'll add an extra +1 since he's mentioned a lot already. BTW he did the soundtrack for the game mirror's edge (and it's quite listenable on it's own too). It's also among his better work.

Albums I think are great that might be concidered progpsy. Do note whether I put prog or progsy I'm not making a distinction.

Blue Planet Corporation- Blue Planet (prog/goa crossover prog)
Deviant Species-In The hands of the randomizer (minimalpsy/dark prog)
Autonomech-I/O (dark prog)
Electric Universe-Cosmic experience (excellent overall, and some tracks would be concidered prog)
Highpersonic Women-Alternative Energy Source (very much prog) http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music...ve-energysource ektoplazm (free and legal download) link
Hux Flux-Division by Zero (prog)
Noosphere - Radiated (might be concidered prog, probably a bit iffy)
Pick-The Furious EP http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/pick-the-furious
Sensiant-Blue Neevus (from what I've heard, this is the epitomy of dark prog, it's the only sensient album I've heard though)
Sun Project-Zwork (progpsy)
Sun Project-Insectified (progpsy/chill)
Son Kite-Colours (progpsy)
Tegma-Encoded/Decoded (progpsy)
Tetrameth - The Electic Benevolence (zenon style dark prog... but morning mood throughout)
Ticon-Rewind (progpsy)
Ticon-Zero after six (progpsy)
V/A Mechanics of Awakening (dark prog)
VA Psytravellever volume 2 (some tracks would be prog) http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/psytraveller-vol-2
VA Royal Flush volume 4 (progpsy)
Vibrasphere-Archipelago (progpsy/chill)
Vibrasphere - Compilation tracks (progpsy)
VA - Spiral Trax - Swedish Goa Trance & Progressive (prog/goa crossover prog)
Perfect Stranger - Changed (prog)
Cojurious One - The Art of Mindfucking (darkprog)
Dragon - In.Formation (a crossover between darkpsy with a progish buildup)

Downbeat/ambient/psydub crossovers with progpsy:
Huva Network - Distances
Huva Network - Ephemeris
Ocelot - One (sortof)
Solar Fields-Blue moon station (definitely one of my top 10 albums ever)
Solar Fields-Movements
Solar Fields- Mirrors edge soundtrack (breaks/psydub/ambient with a big progpsy influence)
Solar Fields-Extended
Solar Fields-Leaving home
Distant System - Spiral Empire


Posted by Snooper on Oct-07-2012 21:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
System is 110% right with this post.

Some elements of psy and goa have been around for well over a decade. Literally identical, there are moments of brilliance, but it still ends up giving you an earache after a long listen.


I absolutely agree with what he writes too. I started following psy and goa around 7-8 years ago when regular trance was starting to bore me, and listened to it for a few years before moving on. Nowadays I can barely listen to one or two songs before the sound gets formulaic and predictable. Thus I can hardly see psy being the next 'big' thing.


Posted by Titanium on Oct-07-2012 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Everyone is heading over to psy now. While I enjoy dancing to it and prefer it over execreble fluff/electro/vocal trance, I'm not really convinced it's the future. Even the respectable names like Ovnimoon, E Clip, Ritmo and so on have a very generic and predictable sound that recycles the same few techniques and timbres. It just happens that the formula they follow is a little more credible than that of mainstream trance, but it still gets pretty dull pretty fast.

The stuff I really love is essentially deep, progressive trance with a minor psychedelic twist: stuff like Solar Fields or Cosmithex.


But cosmithex hasn't been producing for that long. A lot of producers recycle some of their old sounds and tell me a list of producers who don't or haven't in the past? I can still distinguish ovnimoon's tracks. Ritmo and E-Clip I can understand though.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Oct-07-2012 22:15:

To me Psy is alright, I like prog psy better. Only thing i don't like about regular psy is the same kind of bass drum and uplifting baseline. I like a little variation like Timewave.


Posted by fredjan on Oct-08-2012 03:25:

To me, the Cosmithex/Ovnimoon stuff is boring.
However, this is actually pretty cool:


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