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paidware vs freeware vsts

i was looking online today at some vst software on play.com and i cant get over the fucking price of them.
i am using all freeware plugins at the moment and i was wondering is there any real difference between freeware and the ones you pay fore?

nope. fucking illuminati wants you to think so tho.

Well yes there is a difference though really. There are no direct free comparisons to something like Zebra or Omnisphere (off the top of my head) and I've yet to find a decent freebie Pultec or SSL buss emulation.

The flipside is that you don't need those excellent commercial plugins to make decent music.

Oh, and your paid plugins are more likely to updated to your inevitable next platform too.

I use both.

The paid ones sound more analog then the free ones.

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Originally posted by Juan Paulino The paid ones sound more analog then the free ones.

Well you say that......


I know I use my paid ones more. I learn the ******s too.

Try some of these out if you haven't yet, there is a pultec emulation in there too, not sure how accurate it is.

http://antress.blogspot.com/

You can download one file, and it has them all, these are my favorite eq and dynamic freeware plugs.

There is so much crap out there that I just don't think it is worth buying unless you are actually paying for a premium quality product or package of products.

I say go for the freebies, but do a search of them, as you can end up with a lot of junk VSTs that you will never touch and it just ends up slowing you down.

In terms of instruments and effects actually worth paying for, in my mind would be all the quality stuff, that simply do not hold any comparison to free stuff: Native Instruments Komplete (pricey yes, but very worth it. It would be the first thing I recommend), VSL (if you are into orchestral stuff.. more of a niche thing), Omnisphere, Waves stuff, PSP Vintagewarmer, Maschine (not strictly software), fabfilter stuff, and maybe a couple other standard type of instruments like Sylenth or Z3ta.

I have quite a few softsynth purchases that I regret wasting money on, as they've never really been touched, and they just sit there on my computer. Really, every synth out there seems to promise to be truly groundbreaking and analog, but most of them are just pieces of shit compiled on SynthEdit by a 1st year ComSci student with no thought to ease of use or musical usefulness.

most are just hack synth edit jobs of already existing formulas. Hence why you tend to only find vst.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney most are just hack synth edit jobs of already existing formulas. Hence why you tend to only find vst.

They're really not.

Synth1, Tyrell N6, Tal freebies, digital fish, camel crusher, zebralette, variety of sound, rough rider, crystal.... that's just off the top of my head.

There's loads of good free stuff out there for both PC and Mac, but there's still a lot that's synthedit and PC only.

i guess my question is am a really missing out by using freeware only

You should totally check out demos of some of the more popular paid VSTS, I think most do carry good trials, some even let you dive in fully for 30 days. You might get hooked, you never know.

i have some free plugins not vst that do the trick really well no need for paid software. As for vsts i do 80% of the work with Lennar Sylenth (~120�) while other tools cost a lot more, the other 20% comes for z3ta,got it for 13� it was almost an unavoidable bargain, and it does things that sylenth is a bit limitless, i like how pads sound on this.

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Originally posted by stewart.m i guess my question is am a really missing out by using freeware only

i'd say yes.
you should have at least one commercial vst in your secret arsenal of sound producing gadgets.
but i'm not saying you should buy it either.
errr cus a demo is still a commercial product. i think?

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Originally posted by tehlord They're really not. Synth1, Tyrell N6, Tal freebies, digital fish, camel crusher, zebralette, variety of sound, rough rider, crystal.... that's just off the top of my head. There's loads of good free stuff out there for both PC and Mac, but there's still a lot that's synthedit and PC only.

I'll actually take a look into these VST's later! I'm willing to pay for most of my soft synths, but I'd like to see what I can make of free ones as well. If anyone know about some other good free VST's I'd love to know!

I really think it's important to branch out and really invest in some quality but more expensive products. With 800$ you could upgrade from a shitty sound card to a less shitty sound card, or you could completely revamp the sounds you use in all your productions with a couple well placed purchases of either Komplete, Omnisphere, Trillian, Maschine, etc...

Sure some of these 30$ synths may be tempting, and I don't care how analog those filters sound. You are essentially going to be stuck making music that sounds like it came from someone tweaking a synth from a software synth.

A lot of these higher end products provide you with a versatility in sound design, sampling, ease of use, creativity that goes beyond your typical overused EDM sounds, and this is why I vouch for them.

For example, if I want to add an Eastern flute sample into my track, I don't have to try to spend hours synthesizing it, finding a sample of it online and chopping it up, only to find it doesn't fit in a track. I open up Kontakt, search my library of sounds, and try it out. It takes a couple minutes at most.

I've bought my fair share of cheap VST's, and you can really take the time to learn them and make some really good sounds with it while spending hours tweaking. Or you can get something that comes with a large palette of sounds, and work on the damn track instead of a synth patch.

People forget that people listen to musical compositions, not an arrangement of good sound design with analogue sounding tube saturation filters that emulates some old British shit that no one uses anymore.

I'd save more money when buying an interface rather then monitors.

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Originally posted by J.L. People forget that people listen to musical compositions, not an arrangement of good sound design with analogue sounding tube saturation filters that emulates some old British shit that no one uses anymore.

I know lots of people who would disagree with that. You wouldn't believe how many people don't give a shit about melody and harmony, and are all about sound texture - and that's perfectly valid!

If you need a limiter then try this free one.
http://www.yohng.com/software/w1limit.html

Has anyone compared it with the UAD Precision Limiter?

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