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Are there any DJ's around that don't play the same genre at every gig?

Back in the day the NY guys used to play different genres depending on the crowd, the venue, and the mood. Danny Howells, Tenaglia, and Jonathan Peters for example used to dabble in different areas of music from week to week. You would see people posting all kinds of track ID's the day after the party ended, and based on that you'd have an idea of where the vibe was for the people at the party. It seemed like the crowds and the dj's werent so pigeonholed into a name brand sound like they are now. The crowd used to just go w/ the flow (for better or for worse) but now it seems like DJ's are taking less chances and just playing it safe.

Are my sentiments felt by any other TA members? Which pro dj's out there have a music collection that is so deep that they can play different sub genres of EDM from week to week and still keep the fans coming back?

Eelke Kleijn

Re: Are there any DJ's around that don't play the same genre at every gig?

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Originally posted by Guest Back in the day the NY guys used to play different genres depending on the crowd, the venue, and the mood. Danny Howells, Tenaglia, and Jonathan Peters for example used to dabble in different areas of music from week to week. You would see people posting all kinds of track ID's the day after the party ended, and based on that you'd have an idea of where the vibe was for the people at the party. It seemed like the crowds and the dj's werent so pigeonholed into a name brand sound like they are now. The crowd used to just go w/ the flow (for better or for worse) but now it seems like DJ's are taking less chances and just playing it safe. Are my sentiments felt by any other TA members? Which pro dj's out there have a music collection that is so deep that they can play different sub genres of EDM from week to week and still keep the fans coming back?

What about our home town hero, Josh Wink?

I've always found that a lot of prog/ex-prog DJs come to NYC they tend to play a bit more drummy, stripped-down, tribal stuff than usual for the NY crowd.

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch I've always found that a lot of prog/ex-prog DJs come to NYC they tend to play a bit more drummy, stripped-down, tribal stuff than usual for the NY crowd.

MAYHEMMMMMMM

finally x-press 2 gets some love here

I spin a mix of epic/ hard/ tech/ prog trance, breaks, dnb, techno, hard trance, and call it Adventure Trance for the sake of space... And I also play psytrance (morning and prog) occasionally, usually as different acts, but if I wanna do something novel, I play both of my acts in one Vs set, for a really weird mix of different sounds.

It's no fun playing the same thing all the time, y'know?

i like to play 3-4 genres on every 2h+ set but a dj that doesn't change his style according to the crowd is not a good dj. At least at the start you've to play what people expect to hear then you can start messing with your pure sound and see what happens. I've seen very good djs playing a brilliant set to people who loathed they style he was playing which in the end makes him a bad dj.

As for examples i can think about Eric Prydz,Markus Schulz (i've seen him playing radically different sets because he was once included for some reason in a line up with mainly techno, tech house artists) and several non famous djs.

I think it's easier for local djs to switch styles. If i am in the top 10 of the djmag i expect that people to come to see me know which is my core style. A good event to look at is the Queens Day in the netherlands . The crowd just know there will be some djs but they don't know who they are mostly, a dj that feels is his chance to drop the wildest beats clearly shows here that he is pretty unexperienced. On the other hand if you just have 30 minutes of fame might be your chance to play your best stuff out which i fully understand.

I saw Move D last friday, it was a Halloween party at a University-type bar/club.. I'd say 60% of the crowd wasn't there for the music, they were there to party.. I'm a big fan of his productions and he regularly uploads sets onto his soundcloud..

What he plays at Panorama Bar wasn't what he played on friday.. his sets in Germany are deep, experimental sounding house and techno.

On friday he played a lot of vocal tracks, some classic jackin NY house, some Chicago house, some good tech house, some funky stuff, a nice mixture of sounds.. vinyl only set, you could tell he knows his music, and he came prepared for the room. I would say he killed it pretty much... he got a huge ovation at 3:15am when he finished up, everyone was cheering.. when you can make a crowd of uneducated (EDM-wise) people to go crazy, you're doing it right.. this one went off:



When he played this, I lost my shit.. also went off. One of my favs:

move d has been collecting music and making it for so long that it is a cinch for him to do this.

i hate the same old thing all the time i don't care about genre i get bored by the same 4/4 beat which is why i love the old prog stuff by dave seaman and the renaissance stuff and digweeds old stuff and sasha obviously.

Here is a thought...

In all but the rarest of occasions is a DJ actually needed anymore?

yes.

in all but the rarest of your occasions, is your opinion even needed anymore?

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Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay yes. in all but the rarest of your occasions, is your opinion even needed anymore?

Explain why DJs are relevant?

Also explain why your presence is needed any more. Aside from making some witless remark about "jews" or "blacks" or some sex disease you got , why are you here? Don't you have some lesson in English to blag your way through and some cheap cigarettes to smoke?

go on lord butthurt. please digress.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Explain why DJs are relevant?

Please explain to me, how in the name of god would you even get the absurd idea that DJs are somehow not relevant anymore? In the odd 40 or 50 years in which the club DJ has existed the music has changed, the clubs have changed, the culture has changed and the technology has changed but a skilled DJ and music selector will always be an integral part of a dance night.

don't listen to it woony. trust me.

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Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay don't listen to it woony. trust me.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 Here is a thought... In all but the rarest of occasions is a DJ actually needed anymore?

you need the human element. a computer can't read a crowd or tell a story with its track selection

we are already suffering the lack of djs in our club nights. 10 years ago the guy on the booth could be a good dj or not but as a dj afterall. He had to select good vinyls , if he had vinyls he had tts in his house, or at least learnt how to use them in the club...

Now you have human jukeboxes, posers , bastards... not djs anymore.

The essence of a dj understood as a music lover that selects the best from the best and plays it to induce the crowd into a music journey with his peaks and breakdowns will never die.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos The essence of a dj understood as a music lover that selects the best from the best and plays it to induce the crowd into a music journey with his peaks and breakdowns will never die.

J00F, Danny Howells, John Digweed

and that's a wrap.

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Originally posted by RapidFire you need the human element. a computer can't read a crowd or tell a story with its track selection

Lol, who the fuck does that?

No one anymore. Or very, very few DJs do.

My comment was also mainly aimed at the commercial/top40 circuit which is just about everywhere, everyone has the same music, a PC could probably do a better job of play listing things based on the venue, crowd, etc. Text in selections and if it's not been played that night or isn't on some blacklist your tune gets played too. PC could prob mix better too.

For your super cereal underground story telling nights you can still hav your DJs. But really where are they? Either in deserted little doss holes or they are super huge festival type events, either way no one is telling a story or reading the crowd there.

Yes there are successful underground clubs about, but they are few and far between nowadays.

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Originally posted by RapidFire you need the human element. a computer can't read a crowd or tell a story with its track selection

this sounds like something a DJ would say

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Originally posted by RapidFire you need the human element. a computer can't read a crowd or tell a story with its track selection

I'm gonna side with the Lunar Phase 7 guy on this one. Since when is any DJ actually doing any of these things?

The art of the pure DJ is dead. Now all we got are producers and label whores caning their own/friend's/label's records and remixes. They're not there to tell you a story. They're only there to promote themselves: The Producer as rock band, live in concert DJing his pre-recorded productions.

way to paint a narrow picture of a broad spectrum that you have completely lost touch with.

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