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Posted by jonSun on Nov-27-2012 17:55:

Mexico.. You were our only hope.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-attempts.html

Mexico's fearless female mayor sacrificed herself to save her daughter's life as she was abducted by drug gang, tortured and executed



There is no hope for that gunt producing country that could have been paradise.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Nov-27-2012 18:00:

Not to absolve the people who did this, but it's just what happens when you have such immense economic disparity amid a thriving black market.

//Not to mention Mexico's own offensive on drug distribution. Authority is an addiction in itself.


Posted by Lira on Nov-27-2012 18:29:

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you use drugs before they're legalised. You fucking sponsor these criminal cunts!


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Nov-27-2012 18:41:

This again? Does my paying taxes make me particularly responsible for the collateral damage of drone attacks in Pakistan?


Posted by Lews on Nov-27-2012 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you use drugs before they're legalised. You fucking sponsor these criminal cunts!


Not necessarily true. But, as Hal said, this again?


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Nov-27-2012 18:46:

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0424/096.html

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you eat chocolate even when it's been legalised. You fucking sponsor these slaver cunts!


Posted by enydo on Nov-27-2012 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you use drugs before they're legalised. You fucking sponsor these criminal cunts!


And this never happens in other markets with "legal" products?

Yeah. How about fuck off with your high-and-mighty bullshit.


Posted by srussell0018 on Nov-27-2012 19:51:

Yeah man don't talk about my DRUGS like that. I'll be damned if anyone ever says anything bad about DRUGS. They're my LIFE.


Posted by enydo on Nov-27-2012 19:52:

Exactly.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Nov-27-2012 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Yeah man don't talk about my DRUGS like that. I'll be damned if anyone ever says anything bad about DRUGS. They're my LIFE.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-27-2012 20:33:

I for one am convinced that if cocaine was legalised, all these power-hungry and murderous drug cartels would happily cease their criminal activities and become humble narcotics farmers.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Nov-27-2012 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
This again? Does my paying taxes make me particularly responsible for the collateral damage of drone attacks in Pakistan?


That is sort of a poor comparison... Drugs are a social choice, where taxes are a social duty. You have to do one, you don't have to do another.

If you were paying a specific "drone blowing up pakis" tax then it'd be comparable.


Posted by stren on Nov-27-2012 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you use drugs before they're legalised. You fucking sponsor these criminal cunts!


Good point Lira, just grow your own drugs!


Posted by Lira on Nov-27-2012 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
And this never happens in other markets with "legal" products?

Yeah. How about fuck off with your high-and-mighty bullshit.

No, this is important, you fuck off with your drugs until they're legal. Is it really that hard? If that's any encouragement for you to go and legalise them so you can get high, do it - but stop thinking it's no one else's business unless you've got your own meth lab at home or something of the sort. It's easy to be all offended when you're in an economy that can provide a good security force, but countries like mine (where, I must admit, there are shitheads who are no less worse) cannot at the same time try to work on our infrastructure AND protect its citizens effectively. These drug gangs often become actual armies, thanks to the drugs they sell. Here, let me show you the most important traffic routes in Mexico, from a reliable source.



See where it all goes? To the border! Why? Because that's where most money is! Why? I'm sure you can answer this last question.

As for this happening with "legal" products, because manufacturers/sellers of legal products have much to lose, you hardly ever see the news mention "Beer armies", "Chocolate gangs" or "Vegemite Rebels". Drug pushers often have nothing to lose, as they're already criminals.
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Not necessarily true.

Of course they may do other things on occasion, but there's a reason they're called drug gangs/cartels/armies/kerfufflers.


Posted by Lews on Nov-27-2012 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Of course they may do other things on occasion, but there's a reason they're called drug gangs/cartels/armies/kerfufflers.


No, my point was that there are many people who buy drugs without involving Mexican armies in the process. Just because someone is buying/using drugs does not necessitate supporting criminal cunts.


Posted by Lira on Nov-27-2012 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
No, my point was that there are many people who buy drugs without involving Mexican armies in the process. Just because someone is buying/using drugs does not necessitate supporting criminal cunts.

That's why I mentioned there are exceptions, such as drug users who have their own meth labs, hemp plantations, or pet shops with a resident chemist where they sell ketamine to jockeys and junkies.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Nov-27-2012 21:14:

Oh fuck off Lira.


Posted by Lira on Nov-27-2012 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Pie
Oh fuck off Lira.

You come here and have your significant other kidnapped by a drug gang before you fucking tell me to fuck off! Being held at gunpoint is really fun, I bet.

Come, let's see how you like that when it strikes fucking close to home!


Posted by Lomeli on Nov-27-2012 21:27:

The people of Mexico are great. Their spirits remains high during these difficult times. My uncle was a casualty during this drug conflict. Gunmen burst into his home and shot him point blank. It's hard to explain what I felt. Intense anger and sadness.

The country lies in the hands of the people, sadly.


Posted by Lews on Nov-27-2012 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
You come here and have your significant other kidnapped by a drug gang before you fucking tell me to fuck off! Being held at gunpoint is really fun, I bet.

Come, let's see how you like that when it strikes fucking close to home!


I understand your feelings and your point, but it's neither accurate or fair to make the statement you did. There are many people who are exceptions.

But, again, as Hal said, do we really need to do this all over, again?


Posted by enydo on Nov-27-2012 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
No, this is important, you fuck off with your drugs until they're legal. Is it really that hard? If that's any encouragement for you to go and legalise them so you can get high, do it - but stop thinking it's no one else's business unless you've got your own meth lab at home or something of the sort. It's easy to be all offended when you're in an economy that can provide a good security force, but countries like mine (where, I must admit, there are shitheads who are no less worse) cannot at the same time try to work on our infrastructure AND protect its citizens effectively. These drug gangs often become actual armies, thanks to the drugs they sell. Here, let me show you the most important traffic routes in Mexico, from a reliable source.



See where it all goes? To the border! Why? Because that's where most money is! Why? I'm sure you can answer this last question.

As for this happening with "legal" products, because manufacturers/sellers of legal products have much to lose, you hardly ever see the news mention "Beer armies", "Chocolate gangs" or "Vegemite Rebels". Drug pushers often have nothing to lose, as they're already criminals.

Of course they may do other things on occasion, but there's a reason they're called drug gangs/cartels/armies/kerfufflers.


Go write a book about it. Maybe I'll read it.


Posted by rdevito on Nov-27-2012 21:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Miss Pie
Oh fuck off Lira.


We had to use our Army (with heavy weapons, tanks, helicopters) and all the police just to win a 'drug battle' in one fucking city. Only the people who are actually living this war can tell you how fucking horrible this is.

So don't tell us to fuck off.


Posted by Lira on Nov-27-2012 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0424/096.html

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when you eat chocolate even when it's been legalised. You fucking sponsor these slaver cunts!

Except you've got someone you can successfully sue if it's true (suing a drug pusher is definitely trickier depending on the legislation), and it does so much damage to their PR that they're forced to check on that, as it's mentioned in the last paragraphs of that article
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
I understand your feelings and your point, but it's neither accurate or fair to make the statement you did. There are many people who are exceptions.

But, again, as Hal said, do we really need to do this all over, again?

Wow, I completely missed his posts. And you're right, I feel I've mentioned this before. I'll stop here then.


Posted by enydo on Nov-27-2012 21:51:

I'd rather you continue. While you're at it, try and convince every drug user in America they're directly funding cartels.

That'll solve the problem.


Posted by jonSun on Nov-27-2012 21:53:

Im curious who in the states or canada gets or even smokes mexican weed anymore?


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