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recording vocals on a pc?
heey all,
i was thinking of recording some vocals of a friend of mine whos in a band and also wanted to sing for my song
but...
i dont have any good equipment at all..(you could also read..no equipment at all
)
just a pc, with soundforge and a sounblaster live soundcard..and a crappy mic..
is it possible to record her vocals without too much of noise and distortion..or is this just not done with what i got?
is there someone who has got experience with this?
pls help me out
thanks in advance
john
If you want to do good sounding vocals, then you're gonna need a decent mic
Erm... What mic would be good? If we think now low budjet... So some names?
You also need a half decent mic preamp to get it good
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| Originally posted by attacc You also need a half decent mic preamp to get it good |
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Erm... What mic would be good? If we think now low budjet... So some names? |
"There are quite a few all-in-one designed pc-audio solutions, featuring external stand alone or rack-able unit's with multi In's and Out's and Microphone input's too even with phantom powering....
well, i'd advise to forget a soundcard mic amp, even tho my hoontech rack has one, and it works & sounds ok, i'd say it's preferable get a joe-meek Mic-pre/compressor, (or the cheap hootersound made by joemeek) or similar models by other manufacturers, and run a line out from that to a line level soundcard input - in that case of buying say an Ardvark or Maudio they do have multiple in's... so first as yourself... do you really need multiple in's on your PC audio card/device?...
If you are ONLY recording from the one mic, (or mebbe also a guitar-head line-out etc) & layering your record-takes of different parts over the pc-audio/s/w-synth backing, then you don't need a multi i/o card at all... because you only need a stereo monitor out in that case & stereo In to acceopt the pre-amp Output...
But, if you've got outboard - mebbe a synth, sampler & drumbox say - & you want to route that into your s/w mix in realtime then yes mebbe get a multi-input device you might think, it can in certain combinations with s/w allow input monitoring so you can belnd your outboard into the pc s/w mix and hear it all together via the PC output... but is it the best way?...." - Kilo @ dancetech.com
Check out the rest of the article if you're interested
The rest of the article :-)
I don't think there's any wrong with recording the vocals in your own room.. There's are some isolation stuff that you can buy to transform your bedroom or bathroom to a vocal booth
it gives you phantom power (which a lot of mics need), EQ and compression. It delivers to your vocals quality
Check this out for more usefull information:
More usefull information
Well... I only have Sony's F-V220 mic. It was really cheap and it do sounds quite ok (I need it only for vocals)... But sometimes some sounds (like s or something like that) sounds a bit bad, distorted - if U know what I mean 
I use it with Cool Edit. Record those vocals in to wav. and then use them in Reason. That usually works just fine Maybe it's not professional but I'm just a beginner... 
Hey, problems with the s's are very common. You can hear it on a lot of pro tracks too. Try to run it through a de-esser plugin, it helps
So I should get a de-esser pluging? Can I use it with Cool Edit?
Is it possible that Cool Edit pro has a de-esser? I think logic audio platinum 5 has got a de-esser.
I did a quick search on k-v-r and found out there's a pack of plugins called db plugins by Dave Brown who's got multiband compressor and de-esser. They are supposed to be cheap too
No... There's no de-esser in CoolEdfit, at least I can't find it
thanks for your input attacc!!
the main problem is that i dont have much cash to spent on equipment right now:S
If you can't get good gear then you won't get a crisp and clear sound. However, you can improvise by creating a deliberate lo-fi feel. Run the vocal through a radio simulator maybe, and distort it. You'll get a dramatic sound that sounds deliberate rather than budget.
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| Originally posted by John thanks for your input attacc!! the main problem is that i dont have much cash to spent on equipment right now:S |
Hey peopz,
Decent condenser mics + preamps don't have to be that expensive anymore...
Look @ the following microphones:
* The StudioProjects range, they're all extremely cheap but very well rated microphones. Their B1 is about 190 Euro, that's about the price of a good dynamic
* The Red5 range of condensor mics (http://www.red5audio.com/). Their RV8 goes for 99 UK Pounds (160 Euro), comes with shockmount and a flightcase, and had a very favourable review in SOS.
For a decent preamp that even fits in your computer check out the JoeMeek MQ1... goes at Thomann.de for 222 Euro. I think that especially for this item, you should be able to get good price on 2nd hand, bringing the costs even further down.
This unit has the classic optical JoeMeek compression, used all over the world because of it's special qualities. I own 2 JoeMeek units (SC2 Classic and VCQ1) and have to suscribe to this!
Another cheap choice for a small preamp would be the DBX tube minipre.
It goes @ thomann.de for 155 Euro, and the same thing about second hand goes for this one.
Other cheap preamp stuff would be the Behringer range, but my experiences are not that good with it...
As you see, with a bit of luck you could drastically improve your vocal recordings for about 300 - 350 Euro!
Greetz,
CoolRunning
So is preamp really important?
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| Originally posted by Joi Lamusic So is preamp really important? |
As Jdat said: If you have a crappy microphone, don't bother about a decent preamp.
Mind you though, that some microphones need a preamp to function correctly (that is, to amplify the signal that comes out of it to line-level), this is the case with most condensers.
Greetz,
CoolRunning
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