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Posted by JakubPolska on Sep-15-2002 22:40:

Soccer - UEFA Cup

Question involves UEFA Cup, who do u think will get the Cup.
Here is a fixture of games of the First Round.

M. Tel-Aviv - Boavista
Viktoria Zizkov - Rangers
K�rnten - H. Tel-Aviv
Stuttgart - Ventspils
Dinamo - ZTE
FCK - Djurg�rden
AIK - Fenerbah�e
Sparta - �iroki Brijeg
Austria - Shakhtar
Denizlispor - Lorient
Chelsea - Viking
PSG - �jpest
Sporting - Partizan
Legia - Utrecht
Betis - Zimbru
Besiktas - Sarajevo
CSKA - Parma
Levski - Br�ndby
Anderlecht - Stab�k
National - Heerenveen
Lazio - Xanthi
Aberdeen - Hertha
Ipswich - Sartid
Vitesse - Rapid
Leeds - Zaporizhya
Servette - Amica
Sturm - Livingston
Ferencv�ros - Kocaelispor
Zeljeznicar - M�laga
Bordeaux - P�chov
Liberec - Dinamo
Leix�es - PAOK
Litex - Panathinaikos
Crvena - Zvezda Chievo
Hajduk - Fulham
Primorje - Wisla <----- Wisla #1
APOEL - GAK
Celta - OB
Metalurh - Bremen
Celtic - Suduva
Porto - Polonia
Gomel - Schalke
Grasshoppers - Zenit
Ankarag�c� - Alav�s
Midtjylland - Varteks
Iraklis - Anorthosis
Blackburn - CSKA
Mouscron - Slavia

First games are played on Sept 19th and rematches will be played on Oct 3rd.
May high hopes are with WISLA, and that they win the Cup, that will be really tough to do tho with teams as Schalke, PAOK, Lazio, Heerneveen and so on in contention for the same thing, but who knows maybe with some luck we can pull an upset, on some of the good teams and get to semi-finals.


Posted by Blik on Sep-15-2002 23:11:

moved to sport=forum

Heerenveen is shitty on this moment, they have 1 point out of 4 matches


Posted by Dj-HordasH on Sep-16-2002 17:59:

Re: Soccer - UEFA Cup

quote:
Originally posted by JakubPolska


Besiktas - Sarajevo




!!! FC Sarajevo per sempre !!!


KAD JA PODJOH NA KOSEVO
NA KOSEVO STADION,
JA PONESOH BORDO BIJELU,
BORDO BIJELU ZASTAVU.
GORE MASE BORDO BIJELIH
GRADSKI DERBI CEKAJU,
DANAS CEMO ZIVOT DATI
ZIVOT DATI ZA SARAJEVO
NEK IZGUBE PLAVO BIJELI
CIJELU NOC DA SLAVIMO
ZAPJEVAJMO NASU PJESMU,
JA TE VOLIM SARAJEVO.
JA TE VOLIM, JA TE VOLIM SARAJEVOOO







Posted by mr.marcello on Sep-19-2002 11:23:

Re: Soccer - UEFA Cup

quote:
Originally posted by JakubPolska
Vitesse - Rapid


FORZA VITESSE!!!!

Greetings.


Posted by Dj-HordasH on Sep-19-2002 22:05:

Besiktas - Sarajevo 2-2

You think you know what the word 'atmoshpere' means, I suggest you watch the second leg in Sarajevo! WELCOME TO HELL BESIKTAS


Posted by Virus on Oct-03-2002 01:38:

Djurg�rden will kick FC Copenhagens butt tomorrow!!


Posted by Dj-HordasH on Oct-03-2002 06:14:

01/10/2002 Agg. Res
Hertha Aberdeen 1-0 1-0
Amica Servette 4-4* 1-2
Shakhtar Austria 2-5 1-0


03/10/2002 Agg. K-O
Sartid Ipswich 1-1 14:30
Schalke Gomel 4-1 15:30
Polonia Porto 0-6 17:00
Bremen Metalurh 2-2 18:00
Lorient Denizlispor 0-2 18:00
�iroki Brijeg Sparta 0-3 18:00
ZTE Dinamo 0-6 18:00
Kocaelispor Ferencv�ros 0-4 18:00
Varteks Midtjylland 0-1 18:30
Heerenveen National 0-3 18:45
�jpest PSG 0-3 19:00
Sarajevo Besiktas 2-2 19:00
Zaporizhya Leeds 0-1 19:00
Dinamo Liberec 2-3 19:00
PAOK Leix�es 1-2 19:00
Wisla Primorje 2-0 19:00
Zenit Grasshoppers 1-3 19:00
CSKA Blackburn 1-1 19:30
Fulham Hajduk 1-0 19:45
Livingston Sturm 2-5 19:45
Rangers Viktoria Zizkov 0-2 19:45
H. Tel-Aviv K�rnten 4-0 20:00
Stab�k Anderlecht 1-0 20:00
Partizan Sporting 3-1 20:00
Slavia Mouscron 2-2 20:00
Suduva Celtic 1-8 20:00
Br�ndby Levski 1-4 20:15
Xanthi Lazio 0-4 20:30
Chievo Crvena Zvezda 0-0 20:30
GAK APOEL 0-2 20:30
Alav�s Ankarag�c� 2-1 20:30
Anorthosis Iraklis 2-4 20:30
OB Celta 0-2 20:45
P�chov Bordeaux 0-6 20:45
Djurg�rden FCK 0-0 20:45
Fenerbah�e AIK 3-3 20:45
Utrecht Legia 1-4 20:45
Parma CSKA 1-1 21:00
Viking Chelsea 1-2 21:00
Boavista M. Tel-Aviv 0-1 21:00
Rapid Vitesse 1-1 21:00
Ventspils Stuttgart 1-4 21:15
M�laga Zeljeznicar 0-0 21:30
Panathinaikos Litex 1-0 21:30
Betis Zimbru 2-0 21:30


Posted by mr.marcello on Oct-03-2002 13:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj-HordasH
Rapid Vitesse 1-1 21:00


GO VITESSE GO!!!!

Greetings.


Posted by JakubPolska on Oct-04-2002 00:29:

Well my fav team 'Wisla Krakow' has made it to the next round with a win 6 - 1 against NK Primroje. http://www.uefa.com/Live/competitio...ay=1/index.html <--- here is a link with all scores from UEFA Cup matches.

I have one comment tho if there are fans of FC Utrecht I have to say, u ppl are really screwed up, no offence to the normal fans of that team, that flag u put on ur stadium "Fuck Polska" was over the limit, and I laugh at u cause u lost and I hope u get consequences for it.


Posted by Virus on Oct-04-2002 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Virus
Djurg?rden will kick FC Copenhagens butt tomorrow!!


3-1!!!


Posted by mr.marcello on Oct-07-2002 14:02:

quote:
Originally posted by JakubPolska
I have one comment tho if there are fans of FC Utrecht I have to say, u ppl are really screwed up, no offence to the normal fans of that team, that flag u put on ur stadium "Fuck Polska" was over the limit, and I laugh at u cause u lost and I hope u get consequences for it.


No offence, but I don't agree with you.
The first match in Poland the trouble started. The hooligans of Legia Warschau were looking for the hotels of the Utrecht-fans. There was a fight and the hooligans of Legia won the "battle" (if I should call it like that). So it was obviously that the Utrecht hooligans wanted to revenge this in Utrecht.
The afternoon before the return match, there were fights in the centre of the city between the 2 groups of hooligans. The match began and Legia hooligans threw fireworks into a family area of the stadium. Utrecht hooligans went crazy and tried to attack the Legia hooligans again (without succes).

This is why I think that not only the Utrecht fans were to blame, but also the Legia fans.

Greetings.


Posted by mr.marcello on Oct-07-2002 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by mr.marcello
GO VITESSE GO!!!!


And Vitesse won the return match in Bucarest with 1-0!!!

Now we have to face one of the following teams:
RC Celta de Vigo (ESP), FC Porto (POR), Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA), AC Sparta Praha (CZE), SV Werder Bremen (GER), Celtic FC (SCO)!!


Greetings.


Posted by Projekt4.o on Oct-07-2002 22:58:

Who gave u information of Legia fans throwin fireworks into Utrecht Fans sector, as I heard it was Den Haag fans that came to the visitor sector where Legia was sittin, so say it was them, cause I saw the tape and the dude had not Legia`s scarf. I see u never been in Poland by the way, the hooligans do watever they feel like it and cops are most of the time afraid of them, cause they are better armed then most street cops, they have baseball bats, chains and bricks and who knows what else, and if there is like 20 cops against a whole bunch of hooligans u won`t stop them, with out tear gas or a special armed cops, the riot-police. But I still think they went over the limit with the flag, cause its not Poland who was playin Utrecht only Legia and there is a difference between that. Its like sayin F**K Netherlands, when ur playin against PSV/Ajax/Vitesse


Posted by mr.marcello on Oct-08-2002 10:46:

quote:
Originally posted by mr.marcello
Now we have to face one of the following teams:
RC Celta de Vigo (ESP), FC Porto (POR), Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA), AC Sparta Praha (CZE), SV Werder Bremen (GER), Celtic FC (SCO)!!

And it is going to be: VITESSE - WERDER BREMEN!!

Greetings.


Posted by mr.marcello on Oct-08-2002 10:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Projekt4.o
Who gave u information of Legia fans throwin fireworks into Utrecht Fans sector, as I heard it was Den Haag fans that came to the visitor sector where Legia was sittin, so say it was them, cause I saw the tape and the dude had not Legia`s scarf.


That's true! There were fans (or hooligans) of ADO Den Haag in the sector of the Legia fans. But not only the fans of ADO Den Haag threw fireworks, fans of both teams did!


quote:
Originally posted by Projekt4.o
I see u never been in Poland by the way, the hooligans do watever they feel like it and cops are most of the time afraid of them, cause they are better armed then most street cops, they have baseball bats, chains and bricks and who knows what else, and if there is like 20 cops against a whole bunch of hooligans u won`t stop them, with out tear gas or a special armed cops, the riot-police.


Never been in Poland no and didn't knew that.


quote:
Originally posted by Projekt4.o
But I still think they went over the limit with the flag, cause its not Poland who was playin Utrecht only Legia and there is a difference between that. Its like sayin F**K Netherlands, when ur playin against PSV/Ajax/Vitesse


Couldn't agree with you more! But the mathes in Europe are more and more a country against country match.

Greetings.


Posted by Projekt4.o on Oct-08-2002 21:07:

Well good luck for ur team, hope they kick Germans a*s, no offence to any Germans, they are kewl ppl, . Well on the tape I saw a Den Haag fan throwin flares to the opposition sector. I just hope no was injuried. Wit the last part u said about match being country against country tat`s not totally true, I as I rememeber Real and Valencia met in the Champs League final, what are u goin say, Spain vs Spain, .
I hope my team destroys Parma, its going to be difficult but I beleive in my team.


Posted by mr.marcello on Oct-09-2002 09:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Projekt4.o
Well good luck for ur team, hope they kick Germans a*s, no offence to any Germans, they are kewl ppl, . Well on the tape I saw a Den Haag fan throwin flares to the opposition sector. I just hope no was injuried. Wit the last part u said about match being country against country tat`s not totally true, I as I rememeber Real and Valencia met in the Champs League final, what are u goin say, Spain vs Spain, .
I hope my team destroys Parma, its going to be difficult but I beleive in my team.


Thanks for your support!!! We really gonna need that!!
With country against country, I mean games as Chelsea against Borussia Dortmund (for example). German and English fans don't seem to like each other much. And Spain versus Spain, then it is just that fans of Valencia hate the other team.

Parma is a very difficult team to beat, but I'm confident that your side will beat them!! FORZA WISLA KRAKOW!!!

Greetings.


Posted by Projekt4.o on Oct-09-2002 23:03:

Bremen isn`t that good of a team, I mean they got in cause I think in the last game they won a game and the other team lost and they got in from the fourth place, since four teams qualify for soccer competitions and a German Cup winner too. I think that`s how it works, in Poland its somethin like that tho only one team goes for Champs League and three others for UEFA Cup.
I wouldn`t say that, I think English fans and Turkish ones are the ones, or if a teams come from the same city, Lokomotiv Moscow and Spartak Moscow for example.
I wouldn`t say Forza cause that`s Italian word for Go , its if somethin Go Wisla Go.
I hope that Bob Peeters will be a hero once more for ur team when they beat Bremen


Posted by mr.marcello on Oct-10-2002 10:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Projekt4.o
I wouldn`t say Forza cause that`s Italian word for Go , its if somethin Go Wisla Go.


Ok, tell me how you support your team in Polish?


quote:
Originally posted by Projekt4.o
I hope that Bob Peeters will be a hero once more for ur team when they beat Bremen


That's our problem, we haven't got a real goalgetter. Every time it's another player that scores. We need someone like your �urawski!! How many goals has he already scored this season??

Greetings.


Posted by Dj-HordasH on Oct-10-2002 13:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Projekt4.o

I wouldn`t say Forza cause that`s Italian word for Go , its if somethin Go Wisla Go.



Forza is used from Korea to Canada
it's an international word


Posted by mr.marcello on Oct-10-2002 15:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj-HordasH
Forza is used from Korea to Canada
it's an international word


But maybe they don't use the word often in Poland....

Greetings.


Posted by Projekt4.o on Oct-10-2002 21:03:

Well we are playin against an Italian team, so I don`t think we should use Forza, there is a flag I think on our stadium that says Forza Wisla. You ask me what is our word, well I guess it could be Wiselko do Boju, its somethin like, Wisla, Charge. But there are other ways, Wisla Goal, or Wisla, kurwa gol, <---- it means Wisla, score the f**kin goal, some ppl sing that when team has so many chances but can`t score even one goal.
Our team I would say is good, not great but it should be. We have a great sponsor, who gives money for the players, now we are going to maybe a get a new stadium in few years or so, and the only thing the owner wants to qualify to Champs League. The poorest formation has to be midfield, cause there is no play maker there, maybe in winter off season they get a good one, I hope cause we need like two more midfilders and a new goalie plus at least two prospects for defence, and maybe two guys for attack since, Zurawski`s and Kuzba`s contract are up this year (winter `03), and everyone thinks they might go then so its better to find replacements rite now so they can used to the team and how they play. I think there are lots of young rising stars on polish fields, just each clubs he plays for wants crazy sums of money. Well that`s it about my team I guess.


Posted by Virus on Oct-18-2002 01:25:

Djurg�rden - Bordeaux. Shit, that will be a tough one.


Posted by mr.marcello on Oct-20-2002 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Projekt4.o
Well we are playin against an Italian team, so I don`t think we should use Forza, there is a flag I think on our stadium that says Forza Wisla. You ask me what is our word, well I guess it could be Wiselko do Boju, its somethin like, Wisla, Charge. But there are other ways, Wisla Goal, or Wisla, kurwa gol, <---- it means Wisla, score the f**kin goal, some ppl sing that when team has so many chances but can`t score even one goal.
Our team I would say is good, not great but it should be. We have a great sponsor, who gives money for the players, now we are going to maybe a get a new stadium in few years or so, and the only thing the owner wants to qualify to Champs League. The poorest formation has to be midfield, cause there is no play maker there, maybe in winter off season they get a good one, I hope cause we need like two more midfilders and a new goalie plus at least two prospects for defence, and maybe two guys for attack since, Zurawski`s and Kuzba`s contract are up this year (winter `03), and everyone thinks they might go then so its better to find replacements rite now so they can used to the team and how they play. I think there are lots of young rising stars on polish fields, just each clubs he plays for wants crazy sums of money. Well that`s it about my team I guess.


Now I know how to support your team!!

Now something about Vitesse: we are playing in the top division of the netherlands since 1989 and have always achieved good results. Since then we always were at the top in the league (top 5) and play UEFA-Cup almost every season. The last few years our former President has made a debt of over 40 million euros. Now we have difficulties finding sponsors because Vitesse has a bad name in the Netherlands (due to the debts). But now the debt is much less!
Before this season we bought 2 players (Rankovic of RAD Belgrado & Frankel of De Graafschap) and have a very young team. We got a lot of youtplayers in the first team because we simply haven't got the money to buy more players.

Greetings.


Posted by Projekt4.o on Oct-20-2002 20:09:

Do u think ur team has any chance in winning against such teams as PSV, Ajax or Feynoord, etc, I mean in winning at the end of the season to become champs of Eredivisie, I think that`s what is the name of ur league, if that`s not how u speill it then sorry.
My team isn`t such good, they can`t stablize they form, they can win games but in bad style or they lose in good way in some sorts. For example today we lost to the new leaders of our league, first 45 minutes they sucked and they lost 3 goals by the 45th minute, but in the second half different team came on and score 2 goals, so they showed too different halfs, first one just standing around and lettin the opposition play their own style and in second they shower character. Well I hope they win the rest of the games that are left in the Polish League, its five games to go, and some heads will fall during the off season.


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