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DJ Shadow Kicked Off Of Decks In Miami

http://www.urb.com/2012/12/17/dj-sh...decks-in-miami/

*Video in the article*

Just when you thought the clubbing world couldn�t get any more tasteless, news this weekend that DJ Shadow was kicked off the decks of Miami�s Mansion club. This just months after similar incidents involving house DJs Mark Farina and Dennis Ferrer and the crowds that allegedly paid to see them.

Shadow was asked to end his set approximately 20 minutes after it began, and was replaced by the far far far less legendary DJ No M�z. The incident was captured on video, with Shadow telling the crowd �I�ve waited a long time to play here, but they said this shit is too future for all y�all.� He then went to his Twitter account to proclaim, �I don�t care if I get kicked out of every rich kid club on the planet. I will never sacrifice my integrity as a DJ�ever.�


What makes this incident perhaps even more perplexing is that the night was part of Shadow�s �All Bases Covered� tour and was heavily promoted as such on the Mansion website, as well as in the local press. So why do respected DJs continue to get bumped off the decks for playing the music that made them famous? And why do clubs and promoters continue to place DJs in front of unappreciative audiences? And while we�re at it, why do people pay large covers ($30 in the case of DJ Shadow) to hear music they don�t like? And did the fans who did knowingly and eagerly pay to see Shadow get their money back when the plug was pulled?

The problem will continue as long as promoters, venues, managers, booking agents and DJs continue to lump all music played on turntables together as a single scene/genre, ignoring the immense differences in sounds, at the expense of fans and musicians alike,

mansion is a shit club, he should have never been booked there

He posted this on another board....



"Wow, I'm shocked to see my situation stirred up this much conversation. I would like to thank all of my fellow Djs for your support, and to those of you who are charging me with failing to read and adjust to the crowd, well theres a bit of truth there to. Its impossible to please everyone, especially when your goal is to put on a unique entertainment experience.
My audience was in attendence that night and appeared to be enjoying the atmosphere I was creating, unfortunatley there were others who were not satisfied and those people had the power to pull the plug. As a Dj it is your job to drive the bus but the reality is that at the end of the day someone else owns the bus and the all mighty dollar powers it. The only thing you can do as an artist is learn from the experience and move onto the next show. My show isn't for everyone, if it was it wouldn't be as unique and I wouldn't be me.

- Shadow "

I'm kinda tired of hearing about these things - it seems like a publicity stunt, on some level. It's like DJ Sneak clawing his way back into relevancy by slagging off pop-oriented acts... Shadow had totally fallen off my radar (and I don't I'm the only one who feels this way).

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights Shadow had totally fallen off my radar (and I don't I'm the only one who feels this way).

So you actually think he planned this?

Shadow can give a F about that kinda of stuff. He's comfortable enough to show up at random venues in the Bay area and play out of no where for FREE!

If he was so worried about media hype and getting money he wouldn't do such things.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights I'm kinda tired of hearing about these things - it seems like a publicity stunt, on some level. It's like DJ Sneak clawing his way back into relevancy by slagging off pop-oriented acts... Shadow had totally fallen off my radar (and I don't I'm the only one who feels this way).

Go off yourself.

That is pretty fucking ridiculous. That is just bad booking/management. In my opinion they just look plain dumb kicking these DJs off the decks. How can you not know what Shadow's style is and what he likes to play? And how can you not know what type of crowd comes to your club? Pretty ridiculous.

IMO Shadow's team should have probably done their homework too though. He does not really play clubs like that, so I dunno why he chose to play there, and why they booked him.

Overall though, it's still pretty shameful to kick a guy like that off the decks.

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Originally posted by snatonsb Go off yourself.

ROFL
Does this touch you that deeply? What a fuckin'
Get a grip

And Nero - of course I don't think he planned this, but I just don't see what all the fuss is about. The last time this thing happened and got everybody's attention it was at the same exact club. Mansion, along with it's sister club in Miami, has been bringing a lot of acts with slightly more underground cred over the past year or two it seems. This doesn't happen to everybody. Don't you wonder why?

My 2c is that it's because this guy is barely even relevant at this point and he, much like DJ Sneak, doesn't see himself as a DJ but rather as an 'educator'. Of course, I could be reading the whole thing wrong (but I know I'm not the only one who sees things this way). Juan MacLean posted something that caught my eye on his fbook the other day:

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Last night a DJ friend who's name I won't say but rhymes with Lazaro Casanova was hanging out with me in the DJ booth and I turned to him and sort of apologetically said 'so when i play places like this I keep throwing out stuff like recognizable edits in order to keep everyone interested after I go too deep with loopy stuff....' And he said, 'I think what you are describing is called being a DJ.' Indeed.

Some people are getting so caught up in educating that being a DJ slips right past them.

And, another great point -- as msilin said: why the f would dj shadow want to play there anyway. Maybe it's the same reason as why hip hop sucks in 96....

Right, I guess the name "DJ Shadow" is kind of a misnomer - he's not as much of a DJ as he is an artist/producer. I'm sure back in the day he used to do some great DJ sets (there are some solid radio recordings of him), but he does have his limits and he can't just rock a Miami nightclub. Both parties should have known that. Perhaps they thought they would draw his fans in, but judging by the douchebags yelling in the video, sounds like the promoters didn't do a great job at that. That's why ultimately, I think the club looks unprofessional.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights I'm kinda tired of hearing about these things - it seems like a publicity stunt, on some level. It's like DJ Sneak clawing his way back into relevancy by slagging off pop-oriented acts... Shadow had totally fallen off my radar (and I don't I'm the only one who feels this way).

I saw shadow play twice this year and both times he killed it

I mean, he fucking headlined the gobi on sunday at coachella. he's not falling off any radars except those who want him to

e: fix typo

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights Mansion, along with it's sister club in Miami, has been bringing a lot of acts with slightly more underground cred over the past year or two it seems. This doesn't happen to everybody. Don't you wonder why?

The underground acts are usually booked on Wed, Thurs, or Sunday. Friday and Saturday are usually commercial music nights. They probably should have booked him one of those days I mentioned instead of the nights the douchey VIP crowd is around.

The real losers in this situation are the fans that wanted to hear/see Shadow and only saw him for a little. I could imagine anyone here would be pissed as hell to get to a venue to see someone you want, and then for him/her to get kicked off. Just makes you wonder if you should buy that ticket or not.

They could have gotten a refund once Shadow was pulled off the decks, that's what I would have done...

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Originally posted by jonmitz I mean, he fucking headlined the gobi on sunday at coachella. he's not falling off any radars except those who want him to

Coachella has steadily lost all credibility (especially w/r/t dance music) - shadow was alright when i saw him at chella 4 years ago or so. last year, in the gobi, he was just awful (i suppose that's my opinion...but god he was fucking awful - i left halfway through his set)

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights Coachella has steadily lost all credibility (especially w/r/t dance music) - shadow was alright when i saw him at chella 4 years ago or so. last year, in the gobi, he was just awful (i suppose that's my opinion...but god he was fucking awful - i left halfway through his set)

Steve Aoki or GTFO! right?!

ya coachella is all about the dubstep and electro garbage now. the big djs. this year they have paul kalkbrenner playing randomly. but i think 2010 they had sasha and sven vath playing

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights Coachella has steadily lost all credibility (especially w/r/t dance music) - shadow was alright when i saw him at chella 4 years ago or so. last year, in the gobi, he was just awful (i suppose that's my opinion...but god he was fucking awful - i left halfway through his set)

Agreed!! He was rly mehhhh

the threat title is a blatant lie...

the dj was asked to end his set short and have the local closer come on. The dj still got paid his fee. 99% of the people who post on the west coast forum if told by their boss 20 minutes into their work day "you can go home, we will pay you for the rest of the day" would go home, so why go on the forum and post that this is "whack" ?

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Originally posted by bigperf the threat title is a blatant lie... the dj was asked to end his set short and have the local closer come on. The dj still got paid his fee. 99% of the people who post on the west coast forum if told by their boss 20 minutes into their work day "you can go home, we will pay you for the rest of the day" would go home, so why go on the forum and post that this is "whack" ?

because dj's are paid to be entertainers, and consumers pay to be entertained by dj's.

if you pay to see the lakers play, you expect to see the lakers play, not the d league.

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Mansion on DJ Shadow: The Official Statement We offer our most sincere apologies to DJ Shadow and his fans for his set being cut short at Mansion this past weekend. This error should not have happened and will not happen again, especially as we pride ourselves on creating an environment that cultivates and respects innovators such as DJ Shadow. We have learned a lot from this error and made changes within our organization to ensure that Mansion's vision, and the vision of our guests, will never be compromised again.

Too little, too late. I think bigperf is confusing Afrojack with Shadow, some people actually enjoy playing their music for fans instead of cashing in on the fact that he got booted off the decks. Of course, there would be no way in hell afroshit would be kicked because all of the "fans" would be outraged.

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Originally posted by Pantone199c Too little, too late. I think bigperf is confusing Afrojack with Shadow, some people actually enjoy playing their music for fans instead of cashing in on the fact that he got booted off the decks. Of course, there would be no way in hell afroshit would be kicked because all of the "fans" would be outraged.

Afro was kicked off of Voyeur SD. He was so wasted and didn't want to stop playin yet he was trainwrecking like no tomorrow. They had some one else patch in the sound and play while he thought he was still on lol

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Originally posted by Nerologic Afro was kicked off of Voyeur SD. He was so wasted and didn't want to stop playin yet he was trainwrecking like no tomorrow. They had some one else patch in the sound and play while he thought he was still on lol

Ouch! When was this?

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Originally posted by DjWoody Ouch! When was this?

For their anniversary party, he was the special guest.

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Originally posted by Nerologic Afro was kicked off of Voyeur SD. He was so wasted and didn't want to stop playin yet he was trainwrecking like no tomorrow. They had some one else patch in the sound and play while he thought he was still on lol

lol. I hope there's a video out there somewhere.

but why is he trying to get booked at Mansion in the first place? Not a good move by either party. Artists gotta know what an appropriate venue is for them. DJ Shadow at Mansion? That's just weird...anyone could see that it wasn't going to work. Bottle sluts and high rollers are not going to be digging his work, bottom line.

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Originally posted by modthispny because dj's are paid to be entertainers, and consumers pay to be entertained by dj's. if you pay to see the lakers play, you expect to see the lakers play, not the d league.

Yeah, how many people in there you think really cared about seeing DJ Shadow...or even knew who he was? I'm sure he had his contingent of hardcore fans there...and they probably weren't spending much money!

Mansion is all about VIP and bottles, and if those clients aren't happy, then something has to happen. Not saying it was handled properly by Mansion, because it wasn't, but I guess whoever made that call felt the night had to be saved...

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