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The problem with the commercialization of EDM today...

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It's pretty shameful, and it's the second time it's happened there in the last year.

I for one, applaud the decision. If I can't hear mainstream songs, while I'm yelling across the table at my rich, good-looking friends, it just ruins the novelty paying $140 for a bottle of Kettle One.

Wine can be marked up as much as 200% at high end restaurants as well. Just sayin.

Got a bit distracted by THEM at the site.

But yeah, pretty lame.

Too future for you.

Why did they book him to begin with? I see the same thing in orange county california, the asshole of the world in my opinion, where the big club with bottle service has decided to start booking edm acts. You should see the weirdness of the entire place. Half the people have no idea who the dj is and are wondering if he will play any hip hop the other half are drunk off their asses and trying to bang plastic upped whores.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker I for one, applaud the decision. If I can't hear mainstream songs, while I'm yelling across the table at my rich, good-looking friends, it just ruins the novelty paying $140 for a bottle of Kettle One.

Kettle One just doesn't cost 140$.. Unless It's some family pack bottle?

Edit: Nvm you probably wanted to emphasize that exactly, forget it

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Originally posted by Alero50 Kettle One just doesn't cost 140$.. Unless It's some family pack bottle? Edit: Nvm you probably wanted to emphasize that exactly, forget it

I buy and sell people like you, every day! I think I know how much a bottle of premium vodka costs.







I just don't know how to spell it.

The bottle people are the reason why these guys get the boot. They get a hot shot dropping tens of thousands on a table, then when it's not bottle popping music about bitches and money, they throw a fit and get them pulled.

The real issue is that as the booking costs of the DJ have increased, only clubs that pull in a lot of money can afford to pay them. How are you going to make that cash? In the older days the clubs were just much bigger and you basically had 2-4k people paying 20-50 bucks admission. A lot of those clubs have gotten closed in the states, some because they started becoming associated with drugs and others because it was hard to recoup all the money still as you really could only stay open 1-3 nights a week and make money and the rent just got too much. The easiest way around this issue is for new promoters and clubs to open up that can once again bring in 2-4k thousand people a night. They can still have bottle service but make it clear to the people ordering the bottles that this is basically a performance and if you dont like the DJ get the fuck out.

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I'm kinda tired of hearing about these things - it seems like a publicity stunt, on some level. It's like DJ Sneak clawing his way back into relevancy by slagging off pop-oriented acts... Shadow had totally fallen off my radar (and I don't I'm the only one who feels this way).

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of course I don't think he planned this, but I just don't see what all the fuss is about. The last time this thing happened and got everybody's attention it was at the same exact club. Mansion, along with it's sister club in Miami, has been bringing a lot of acts with slightly more underground cred over the past year or two it seems. This doesn't happen to everybody. Don't you wonder why? My 2c is that it's because this guy is barely even relevant at this point and he, much like DJ Sneak, doesn't see himself as a DJ but rather as an 'educator'. Of course, I could be reading the whole thing wrong (but I know I'm not the only one who sees things this way). Juan MacLean posted something that caught my eye on his fbook the other day: quote: Last night a DJ friend who's name I won't say but rhymes with Lazaro Casanova was hanging out with me in the DJ booth and I turned to him and sort of apologetically said 'so when i play places like this I keep throwing out stuff like recognizable edits in order to keep everyone interested after I go too deep with loopy stuff....' And he said, 'I think what you are describing is called being a DJ.' Indeed. Some people are getting so caught up in educating that being a DJ slips right past them. And, another great point -- as msilin said: why the f would dj shadow want to play there anyway. Maybe it's the same reason as why hip hop sucks in 96....

On the one hand, if you book Shadow, you should expect him to play a lot of weird shit. That's what he does. He's not a party-starter who reads the crowd and augments the occasion. He's a DJ in the sense of someone who obsessively hunts out great music and constructs his own canon. So what did they expect? And on the other hand, if you play at the Mansion, you should know it's a bullshit bottle service venue that pulls DJs, and playing leftfield material is only going to end in tears.

So I understand the cynicism on both sides. The venue book Shadow and pull a big crowd, Shadow knows he gets paid even if he gets pulled off. The only losers are the DJ Shadow fans who paid to see him play. It's disappointing because Shadow is an opinionated guy and it's hard to imagine he didn't see this coming. So you're right... It's the money!

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