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Posted by Aldrian on Sep-16-2002 18:39:

You guys are right. Here is a more practical and useful setup.

Dual CD Player Pioneer CMX3000 (with case cabinet)
DJM500 Pioneer Mixer
Senheiser Headphones
and
Mackie Speakers

is this ok? give me your feedbacks

i was reading more of the specs and stuff on cmx and it at least has the seamless loop, beatmatch button, emergency 4 locked on beat loops but no effects so i had to get the mixer with effects. i will spend jsut a little more on the setup but it is worthwhile i guess

does the CDJ1000 have any effects at all??????? and the main question. does the CMX3000 at least has a scratch vinyl mode just like the cdj1000??????? i just want a scratch mode. if so then im sold and im getting it soon

oh and the case is going to cost me even cheaper

is this more practical?


Posted by DJ-Kuza on Sep-16-2002 18:55:

Well, unless you are spinning your own tunes, you'll never, ever be a headliner playing Cd's. No one wants to support the stealing of music. And if you're just playing to play in your room or to house parties, then forget what I said.


Posted by YuVaL on Sep-16-2002 20:25:

first of all
Dj-KUZA is right
u wont get further then ur bedroom with cdj'z imo.. but still, its good for a start, so i think u should go with it, but instead of the cmx3000, do urself the favore and buy 2 cdj 100s or even 700s (remember the 100s have effects), the cmx3000 is harder to handle imo, because its dual, the 100s are seperate, and they have the big jog wheel which is a BIG plus, its easier to start with, and when/if u move to ttz eventually, the big jog will "kinda" feel like a tt with the pitch band and all that
imo switch to cdj 100's/700's and u got urself a sweet setup m8


Posted by tubby on Sep-16-2002 22:35:

the cmx3000 has a large jog wheel as well, and it does have something of a scratch mode, but it has enough lag to be pretty much useless for scratching, somewhat useful for cueing. If you really want to scratch and can hold off for a couple of months, check out the CDJ800, little brother to the 1000. It has the same scratch features as the 1000, but cuts back in other things (no wave display, 1 cue point per cd not 3, no memeroy cards).
If you want a better comparison go go the pioneer site (pioneerprodj.com) but remember most of the guys there are mad pioneer fans when you read their reviews. they'll give you a good idea of the differences in the models tho

tub


Posted by bachatu on Sep-16-2002 23:20:

I would do this....
Replace the cd players with 2 technics 1200MK3 or MK3
Instead of Pioneer mixer, go with Vestax PCV-375

If you wanted to get extra effects and sampling, get an effects processor
Instead of the Sennheiser, go with the Sony V6 or MDR7506... I dont think the sennheiser is worth it, unless you get the HD25, at least for djing... but then you are talking about $150 at least, while you can get the MDR-V6 for 60-70 bucks, great quality too.

Just like the others mentioned, you wont get far with cd dj ... as far as success..
If you insist on djing with cds as well, then make the turntables your main base,, and pioneer cdj-100s as additional for hard to find tracks. You only would really need one as well (cdj).

Dont get things unless you will be using them. You have to find out what you need, what you want.
Do you want to be club dj? mobile? or both?
If club only, then you probably only want Technics with maybe one cd player. Mixer can be okay one.. not super fancy, cause the clubs will be supplying all hardware
if mobile, then prepare to get your self an amp and sub, speakers, etc. Where do you want to be in 5 yrs from now? do you want to keep djing???? if not , then dont spend too much money on gear..

Just keep in mind that you dont want to spend money unless you need to, unless you are just rich and want to throw money away... you will always find ways to spend money on equipment. if its not with djing, then there are things for producing.. studio stuff. Then you are talking about big bucks.
Just keep that in mind.


Posted by Dj Flesch on Sep-16-2002 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Kuza
Well, unless you are spinning your own tunes, you'll never, ever be a headliner playing Cd's. No one wants to support the stealing of music. And if you're just playing to play in your room or to house parties, then forget what I said.


no offense, but shut the fuck up. Who are you to tell someone that they won't make it as a "headliner" if they choose cds as a format over vinyl. And fuck you even more for implying that every cd-based dj steals the music he spins. I am a cd-based dj and I BUY the music that I spin. Not only that, but you have some twisted ethics if you think that being a bedroom or houseparty dj makes it "okay" to steal the music. It doesn't matter whether you are making a profit off of your spinning or not. What matters is if you are getting use out of the original recording of a track, that you pay for that use.


Posted by DJ-Kuza on Sep-17-2002 03:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
I am a cd-based dj and I BUY the music that I spin


Can you say this for most other CD based DJ's? You saying you've never burned a song for a set?


Posted by Vizay on Sep-17-2002 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Kuza
Well, unless you are spinning your own tunes, you'll never, ever be a headliner playing Cd's.


Picotto anyone?


Posted by DJ-Kuza on Sep-17-2002 14:54:

He got there by making his OWN tracks. NOt spinning shit he burned off kazaa like these guys are looking to do.


Posted by djkonami on Sep-17-2002 15:06:

get technics man, I have them plus two cd players and spinning cd's just isnt the same!! GET TT's!! you WILL be happy!! cause think about it, if you ever want to spin at a club, 99% of the time, you will be using technics! get used to it


Posted by Scottaculous on Sep-17-2002 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Kuza
He got there by making his OWN tracks. NOt spinning shit he burned off kazaa like these guys are looking to do.


You can buy cd singles. You can further buy the vinyl and then make a quality rip to spin on your CD player. OR you can download that track you bought and spin it and still be legal.


Posted by Scottaculous on Sep-17-2002 17:21:

Let's be realistic people... Not many people progress past bedroom DJing. And if you do progress past that point, you're not going to be a resident at an ultra dance club. It would be at a club where they will more than likely have a CD player over turntables. Only dedicated dance clubs will have turntables and they certainly won't hire a DJ with no experience.

Furthermore, people always say being a vinyl DJ is so cool. I'm a vinyl DJ and what's so cool about it? It's ridiculous to find separatism in DJing as well. Some say they like the feel of vinyl. That's fine, whatever you're more comfortable with in bringing forth your music and your style. But in the end, it's all music to the ears of your listeners.

Believe it or not, a DJ is the supporting player. You are there to help people have a good time with good music. As a partier, a DJ is there to support me. I goto a famous DJ because I know their music will help me have fun. Seems to me some people are DJing for the wrong reasons.

So to Aldrian, I say, get that CMX-3000. I have one and it's good. You will really appreciate the .05% pitch control. The CMX-3000 has more bells and whistles than the CDJ-100 and CDJ-500. The scratch feature is useless because of the delay. The CD text helps you a lot in identify different track on your CDs and the wave table helps you see the structure of the track (in vinyl you see the grooves). Your setup is perfect to get started on. Learn to use the cues and the jog mode. If you want to get a taste of what vinyl spinning is. Don't use the jog mode to fine tune your beatmatching. Use all pitch control. That's what vinyl spinning is like.



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