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Posted by Teezdalien on Jan-05-2013 19:12:

Xfer Records' Cthulhu Arp/Chord Plug-in

For those that haven't heard about it yet, I thought I'd give a heads up on this new tool from Steve Duda's Xfer Records (Nerve, LFO Tool). It's apretty cool arpeggiator and chord effect that works with any virtual instrument.
Looks like it has some nice tricks up its sleeve and it's only $40 or so, well worth a look imo.

http://www.xferrecords.com/products/cthulhu


Posted by evo8 on Jan-08-2013 06:45:

think ill pick this up, $39 is worth a punt


Posted by kadomony on Jan-08-2013 07:57:

lol @ copypasta buttons


Posted by XDR on Jan-08-2013 16:00:

Looks like a must have to me


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-08-2013 19:33:

Will give it a shot, looks like good brain-storming session tool for me lol - always like to go through few melodic variations - appreciate for this info!

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by evo8 on Jan-09-2013 04:27:

for someone like myself who doesnt have any musical theory background this could be a nice help - also i find Live's arp a bit basic and limited

its interesting what that guy Steve Duda says about that being deadmau5's secret weapon for a while, i love some of the chord progression he uses in some tracks

this one in particular, nothing extremely complicated but i like it



great production actually, vocal sits really well


Posted by chris marsh on Jan-09-2013 14:11:

Good to see some SP love

plug in looks great too


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-09-2013 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
for someone like myself who doesnt have any musical theory background this could be a nice help - also i find Live's arp a bit basic and limited

its interesting what that guy Steve Duda says about that being deadmau5's secret weapon for a while, i love some of the chord progression he uses in some tracks

this one in particular, nothing extremely complicated but i like it



great production actually, vocal sits really well


Lol, I was watching his live recording session (few months back) from his studio - interesting style of work also like his production flow, very detail and picky lol.

Cheers


Posted by simonbostock on Jan-09-2013 22:36:

Looks really cool but a bit of a ball ache to work with Logic (apples fault) but will give it a go.


Posted by zodiac9 on Jan-10-2013 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
for someone like myself who doesnt have any musical theory background this could be a nice help - also i find Live's arp a bit basic and limited

its interesting what that guy Steve Duda says about that being deadmau5's secret weapon for a while, i love some of the chord progression he uses in some tracks

this one in particular, nothing extremely complicated but i like it



great production actually, vocal sits really well


I'm not a big deadmau5 fan, but that is a great song. When I first heard it I had to look and see who produced it, was surprised to see it was him. That is a great chord progression.

I can come up with chord progressions on my own, but a tool like this might give me a creative boost. I was sort of against using chord helpers, but I can see the use for them now. I choose to call it "chord exploring". It's likely most of us, even the musically gifted, are not exploring the full range of chord progression possibilities.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-10-2013 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by zodiac9
I'm not a big deadmau5 fan, but that is a great song. When I first heard it I had to look and see who produced it, was surprised to see it was him. That is a great chord progression.

I can come up with chord progressions on my own, but a tool like this might give me a creative boost. I was sort of against using chord helpers, but I can see the use for them now. I choose to call it "chord exploring". It's likely most of us, even the musically gifted, are not exploring the full range of chord progression possibilities.


Right on man, it is a "chord exploring session tool" - agree.

Cheers


Posted by Seandroid on Jan-10-2013 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by zodiac9
I'm not a big deadmau5 fan, but that is a great song. When I first heard it I had to look and see who produced it, was surprised to see it was him. That is a great chord progression.

I can come up with chord progressions on my own, but a tool like this might give me a creative boost. I was sort of against using chord helpers, but I can see the use for them now. I choose to call it "chord exploring". It's likely most of us, even the musically gifted, are not exploring the full range of chord progression possibilities.



I Remember is a pretty typical Deadmau5 track. I'm...surprised you were surprised. He often has excellent chord progressions.




Regardless I'm definitely buying this.


Posted by Teezdalien on Jan-10-2013 06:57:

yeah I've been hammering this for days, it's freeakin ace, best 40 bucks I've spent on a plug-in in... well days.
(I've had pretty rampant gas lately with all these sales and whatnot!)


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-10-2013 19:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Teezdalien
yeah I've been hammering this for days, it's freeakin ace, best 40 bucks I've spent on a plug-in in... well days.
(I've had pretty rampant gas lately with all these sales and whatnot!)


Yep, inspired by this new baby I created/started some chords progression which is or will be sweet base for a new uplifting dance track (sorry for self promotion but I find this related to our topic)

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...s=#.UO8Sx3fzJOw

Please ignore if you don't really care

Darek


Posted by Deillon on Jan-10-2013 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Yep, inspired by this new baby I created/started some chords progression which is or will be sweet base for a new uplifting dance track (sorry for self promotion but I find this related to our topic)

Please tell me you do hear that the progression is quite crappy.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-10-2013 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Deillon
Please tell me you do hear that the progression is quite crappy.


Nope just opposite -> now I'm taking this personally

Actually this new plug-in is sweet and very easy to work with + within 15 min from having a basic melodic idea I want through tons of chords variations so sorry this is probably something you would not like to hear but I really like it - more option is good thing!!!

Cheers mate,

Darek


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jan-11-2013 04:51:

and begin the issues with people with bad ears that don't ear the inner voices which sound awful. Not sure why he didn't program some sort of algorithm to avoid awkward voicing. I always think tools like this are rather pathetic but oh well,


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-11-2013 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
and begin the issues with people with bad ears that don't ear the inner voices which sound awful. Not sure why he didn't program some sort of algorithm to avoid awkward voicing. I always think tools like this are rather pathetic but oh well,


Yeah, I think some of this stuff is up to producer to filter through some of this crap before commit to particular (and best sounding) chord/s


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jan-11-2013 18:10:

no , i think it up to a producer to think of the example in its harsh awkward form and construct something from the pattern that sounds acceptable. This is at best a simulation.


Posted by chris marsh on Jan-11-2013 18:20:

i got this now

got a reasonable of grasp of basic music theory, think this is an interesting tool

unless im missing something it doesnt tell you which key your in for each preset. You could work it out but would take a bit of time - so you just have to try and find the chord that resolves things by ear.

also it would be really useful to be able to drag midi data out of there. When i use this i will prob just end up entering the chords i like in the piano roll and using it as an inspirational jump start.

do find it inspiring though - just ordered a book on harmony i need to learn more about this shit!


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Jan-11-2013 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
and begin the issues with people with bad ears that don't ear the inner voices which sound awful. Not sure why he didn't program some sort of algorithm to avoid awkward voicing. I always think tools like this are rather pathetic but oh well,


At least you can put in your own chords and mess around with it that way.

Using the Bach chords default preset banks will just make you sound like Bach.


Posted by tehlord on Jan-11-2013 20:33:

I haven't even looked at the video as I already know it's not for me, but as a potential source of inspiration I kind of see the point. You must be able to already tell if something's going to work or not though. I guess it'd be something that I'd use to maybe trigger a chord that I probably wouldn't have gone to myself. One can get stuck in a rut sometimes.


Posted by Teezdalien on Jan-11-2013 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I haven't even looked at the video as I already know it's not for me, but as a potential source of inspiration I kind of see the point. You must be able to already tell if something's going to work or not though. I guess it'd be something that I'd use to maybe trigger a chord that I probably wouldn't have gone to myself. One can get stuck in a rut sometimes.


I mostly agree with this and I can see why it wouldn't really appeal to a lot of the really experienced musicians, but I'm finding it to be a valuable time saver.
I'm not really using the presets, more rolling my own in specific keys as I'm primarily a guitarist more so than a keyboard player, so it's helpful for me in that sense.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-11-2013 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
no , i think it up to a producer to think of the example in its harsh awkward form and construct something from the pattern that sounds acceptable. This is at best a simulation.


Maybe I didn't express myself correctly but simply have the same view as you lol - this tool is pretty fixable and let you either select prerecord pattern or use one from catalog and completely rework/modify it on the fly - so simply, this easy of use flow got my attention and for $39 you can't go wrong with it -> but you are right ultimately the decision is in my hand.

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by TranceLover007 on Jan-11-2013 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
....... I already know it's not for me, but as a potential source of inspiration I kind of see the point .........


True, you are wise man G. - this is way I like you (professional way only )

Cheers mate,

Darek


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