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Dancing and partying vs. filming and facing the dj

I really want to hear out as many opinions as possible on this topic.

Well, I have something on my heart when it comes to trance events (or other EDM events).

I know for a fact that trance events, ever since the 90's, has always been about partying and going to the event to listen and dance to your favourite DJs mixing their own songs and such. I have seen a lot of videos on YouTube from those events, where people are just dancing and NO ONE is directed towards the DJ.
BUT now, the majority of people going to these events, are faced towards the DJ either filming the DJ or raising the hands up towards the DJ.

I feel that the whole idea of the EVENT is becoming a concert. And this is thanks to the new generation. What happened? what went wrong? I really think that some people don't understand what EDM stands for. I thing the letter D makes it bloody clear!!

If you attend to bigger trance event's you can clearly see that the people standing near the bars and at the back exit doors, are the ones who are dancing, drinking partying and trying to get laid. I feel that these are the most loyal people towards the trance genre at the events. I feel like they are the only ones understanding that EDM is not concerts, it's dance events.

I know for a fact that if I would be a famous DJ, I would enjoy playing when people are dancing and focusing on the music, and not me...

My last point is that I don't think that the ones filming and facing the DJ's would understand the idea of ASOT 600 for example where the headline is: "New boundaries of electronic dance music, turning the globe into one big dance floor"

Just so you guys know; i'm 21 and have this point of view...

What do you think of this topic?

I dance most of the time but when I'm with my wife and she has her camera, we film a few videos to throw on youtube too. We have fun with it.

Electronic Filming Music seems like a more accurate description of EDM at least here in the states.

DJ worship has been going on since the late '90s, probably even earlier in isolated instances. This is nothing new.

Well this is the same reason why people pay upwards of $100 to see big name DJ's (looking at you SHM) despite the fact that a local DJ can play as good of a set, if not a better one. IMO the majority of people who go to these expensive shows go primarily so that they can brag about having been there later, and how awesome so and so was. No one envies you when you tell them you saw a local DJ in a warehouse this past weekend.

I still don't understand how anyone willingly puts up with Aoki's shit. If I wanted to have a cake thrown at me I'd crash a wedding.

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Originally posted by Sleightful I still don't understand how anyone willingly puts up with Aoki's shit. If I wanted to have a cake thrown at me I'd crash a wedding.

I think it'd be more likely that you crash a kid's birthday party who happens to have a trampoline and a pool with pool toys in their backyard

the design of the sound system is just made to sound better facing the booth. Well most of the time. People will use any point of reference and a big booth with someone doing something is a pretty good reference point to watch. Not to mention everyone else is looking that way.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney the design of the sound system is just made to sound better facing the booth. Well most of the time. People will use any point of reference and a big booth with someone doing something is a pretty good reference point to watch. Not to mention everyone else is looking that way.

I prefer going right down in front, then face the crowd. Plenty more entertainment in that direction,plus one can engage others in fist-pump shenanigans.

(assuming I'm not in a flailing kind of mood, if which I'll find a suitable corner and give'r)

i not gonna troll this time, i like to film the intros of big events, usually it's something you'd like to see once again, the lightshow, effects and so on, pretty impressive if you add a good atmosphere. after that i may take a few clips but i am not there to film a documentarty jesus.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos i not gonna troll this time, i like to film the intros of big events, usually it's something you'd like to see once again, the lightshow, effects and so on, pretty impressive if you add a good atmosphere. after that i may take a few clips but i am not there to film a documentarty jesus.

Besides, if it's that good an event, you can always pick up the DVD documentary instead!

Re: Dancing and partying vs. filming and facing the dj

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Originally posted by dave-bofficial

You can just be the guy facing the opposite direction. I do that pretty often.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Besides, if it's that good an event, you can always pick up the DVD documentary instead!

nah i like the feeling of homemade, and recall the show from the exact perspective as i experienced it. It just has sentimental purposes.

I know how pissing is for the dj to have someone back to the booth hahaha @MarkAnthony

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Originally posted by Sykonee I prefer going right down in front, then face the crowd. Plenty more entertainment in that direction,plus one can engage others in fist-pump shenanigans. (assuming I'm not in a flailing kind of mood, if which I'll find a suitable corner and give'r)

me, on both accounts

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Originally posted by Sykonee DJ worship has been going on since the late '90s, probably even earlier in isolated instances. This is nothing new.

As someone who started going out in the 90s this is very true, calling Sasha the son of god, or saying god is a dj but he only warms up for sasha, to the self made no e pure pvd shirts, dj worship isnt a new phenomena. But honestly, I dont remember so many people looking straight ahead and not dancing for the entire show as they do now.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos nah i like the feeling of homemade, and recall the show from the exact perspective as i experienced it. It just has sentimental purposes.

But you didn't fully experience it, as part of your attention was dedicated to filming it. So, your perspective isn't what you perceive it to be.

lol, northern problems

What you're noticing is the transition of EDM from an obscure, underground culture where artists are loved and praised for their art into pop culture, where the artists are loved and praised just because. Taking photos at pop concerts has been commonplace for the past thirty, forty, fifty years. The only reason you never really saw it in dance music twenty years ago is because nobody gave a shit in the grand scheme of things. Now, as DJs and live acts are beginning to be treated the same way as people like Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber, people are going to treat these shows in the same manner.

You lament that something "happened" or that something "went wrong". Nothing did. Great music is still out there, but you're (in my opinion) not going to find it at big shows like that. Shows that you're talking about are not designed for you, they're designed for everybody - to be easily consumed by as many people as possible and, unfortunately for some, that target audience is the same group of people that go see Lady Gaga and stand behind their cameras. It's just what that culture is used to.

You can either choose to accept the "pop-ification" of the less-underground styles of dance music and put up with it when you're out, or you can choose to go to better venues and see artists that, while possibly lesser-known, are still just as good as good as, if not better than, someone like Armin/Tiesto/Big-name-arena-artist. I go to these kinds of shows all the time, and I really couldn't tell you the last time I saw someone other than the photographer snap a picture of a DJ.

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Originally posted by PivotTechno But you didn't fully experience it, as part of your attention was dedicated to filming it. So, your perspective isn't what you perceive it to be.

What if you're filming by holding the camera in both hands above your head (where both hands would be at a cracker jack trance concert anyway)? Would you be fully experiencing it then?

What idoru said.

also this:

^

win win

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT What if you're filming by holding the camera in both hands above your head (where both hands would be at a cracker jack trance concert anyway)? Would you be fully experiencing it then?

As someone who's spent a considerable amount of time studying what it means to be fully present, I'd have to say, no.

some would argue that trying to get laid is against the tradition as well, but who really cares

Mostly go to parties with my girlfriend now - just dance facing her, all around in the crowd. It's more enjoyable than feeling awkward about dancing when a lot of ppl around you are just watching the dj :/

This, too...

^ lol
I saw some kid post that on facebook - somebody I went to school with, who seems to have jumped on the pop-EDM bandwagon.

Look, if you're going to parties where that happens, you're at the wrong party. Just like somebody mentioned earlier in the thread. It's your own fault.

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