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would anyone like to have a giggle?
Notice how much fair weather friend bullshit and cock stroking is going on here. You click on the page of some of these guys who leave comments, and their music is equally terrible. Is there just a huge number of shit producers out there who suck so bad they have to compliment each other's poor work to make each other feel good? Is this some kind of social phenomenon?
I mean for how terrible this production work is, I'm amazed there are so many comments.
https://soundcloud.com/dottkom/mrri...eatslackerremix
Agreed! Soundcloud is dead, with all members looking for self promotion, not interested at all in fellow members just only interested in promoting themselves too......
Soundcloud is now positioning itself as the go to choice for mobile media source.
Unless you're a big name with a following you can rely on, you're nobody.
It's just data storage.
And then again no one cares if you are a hit on SC.
The only ones that notice you are like TS wondering why your plays scam did work and theirs didn't it's worse than YT with the additional challenge that unlike YT SC has no audience outside it's self centered wannabee producah members
although i must disagree with the fact that only djs and producers are on SC... sure thats the main audience but its becoming more and more mainstream and now regular people types are signing up to favorite/comment on stuff
the problem with buying followers other than the obvious is if you are gonna do it for SC, you have to do it for twitter, instagram, facebook etc otherwise its going to look really awkward when you have 2k followers on sc and 10 likes on FB
that is the only way normal people interface with soundcloud and that is via facebook. As an artist , that is how you would want it anyways. Soundcloud does not allow you to properly maintain a fanbase. It is too limited. It is an audio player. And thats it.
I see very little people like this. They ALL have a profile (otherwise they can't comment)
and they all do "something" (from DJ�ng to producing, to...)
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations although i must disagree with the fact that only djs and producers are on SC... sure thats the main audience but its becoming more and more mainstream and now regular people types are signing up to favorite/comment on stuff the problem with buying followers other than the obvious is if you are gonna do it for SC, you have to do it for twitter, instagram, facebook etc otherwise its going to look really awkward when you have 2k followers on sc and 10 likes on FB |
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| Originally posted by Looney4Clooney that is the only way normal people interface with soundcloud and that is via facebook. As an artist , that is how you would want it anyways. Soundcloud does not allow you to properly maintain a fanbase. It is too limited. It is an audio player. And thats it. |
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| Originally posted by Raphie I see very little people like this. They ALL have a profile (otherwise they can't comment) and they all do "something" (from DJ�ng to producing, to...) |
I follow no one, got only 750 followers
what's your profile? wanna take a peek to see what kind of comments you're getting?
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations i speak as a local dj with actual local fans not even close to all the people who like/comment on my sc are dj producers SC really depends on your fanbase... if you are good and your SC followers clicked like because they actually like you, they will follow your updates and listen to your shit |
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations i speak as a local dj with actual local fans not even close to all the people who like/comment on my sc are dj producers SC really depends on your fanbase... if you are good and your SC followers clicked like because they actually like you, they will follow your updates and listen to your shit |
A lot of of the social interactivity has been taken away with the new version of soundcloud. It used to be a platform that worked as a community but they're really pushing away from that.
Don't forget they also did a deal with Getty whereby it was supposedly much easier to put your tracks up for license and they're pushing audio books as well now. They want to be for audio whaat youtube is for visual, and I suspect eventually live off the ad revenue.
It's also a shit audio player, with about the worst mp3 encoding on any online platform, and they have no plans to change that either.
I also suspect that'll you'll be able to sell your wares on there sometime soon as well, it would be a natural evolution of what they want to become.
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| Originally posted by Looney4Clooney which they can do via facebook. As an artist, you have nothing to gain by having them follow you via soundcloud. Get them on facebook. An marketing pro will tell you that having people follow you on soundcloud rather than facebook is a detriment. |
my boss has 70K followers on SC and 60K fans on FB... both extremely important
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations while facebook limits free exposure on fanpages to 10-15% ? i doubt it... im sure for underground music a pro would tell you its important to have a foothold on all platforms |
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| Originally posted by tehlord Except that on Soundcloud people follow you so you follow them back, and they're all shouting just as loud as you. On Facebook you're more likely to have people follow what you do because they want to hear what you have to say. |
Djs really are the minority on Soundcloud.
Soundcloud is a tool that feeds other sites, that's it really. Any following on there is irrelevant as there's basically no way to connect with people other than upload more content, which you really want to be announcing on the other sites anyway....
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations while facebook limits free exposure on fanpages to 10-15% ? i doubt it... im sure for underground music a pro would tell you its important to have a foothold on all platforms |
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| Originally posted by Allied Nations my boss has 70K followers on SC and 60K fans on FB... both extremely important |
yeah but who wants their posts to say "sponsored" ?
just screams lame.... and is usually reserved for spam posts (releases, events etc)
i agree having engaging content is the best way to "beat" the system
i guess my stance is that as an underground musician, having a proper hold on all of these platforms is important, and none should be neglected, but all used appropriately for maxmimum gains vs time put in
normally a lot of people say "this is great" or the common form "this is great check my stuff here: XXXX" it may work as when people that don't follow me comment on my tracks on SC i usually inspect their profile.
There are people following 100k people with 20k followers, shit music and all the comments are of this kind, there are no real comments it's just a fictional success they write 100 comments a day and receive 100 in return this creates an appearance... if it translates into something valuable... i don't know.
Guide to being awesome at soundcloud and/or facebook :
Step 1) Follow/friend as many people as you can and comment about how awesome their song is, or how awesome, trendy and beautiful they are.
Step 2) Put a link in the comment praising them or their music back to your own
Step 3) Set your profile picture to a picture of you with 2 or more hot girls in it. (it doesn't even have to be you)
Step 4) ?????
Step 5) You suddenly have 1,000's of "friends" and lots of comments about how awesome your terrible music is.
(If your music is actually good, you can still follow steps 1,2 and 4...as it's a surprisingly good way to get some exposure, though still means fuck-all in the long run)
*giggle*
That aside...SC is still a pretty useful tool in its' own right. Sure it gets abused, but who really cares / why bother getting worked up about it. If it makes the "terrible music producer" happy to have all those comments and friends, more power to them.
I always wondered how some of these producers that make terrible music have so many followers and so many comments on every track... there was this one guy (some guy from turkey) in a remix comp that i was a part of and his remix had like 10 times more plays then all the others and all the comments were so stupid like "this rocks!". Needless to say he wasn't one of the winner.. (i was one of em, not to brag or anything lol)
Its pretty hard tho to obtain some real followers that actually listen to your new tracks, actually its very very hard if you're virtually unknown... alot of it is usually fake fans that follow you hoping that you'll follow them back. (i refuse to do this unless i actually like their stuff)
following people you don't care about isn't going to do anything. fake people don't buy and it isn't lke people seek out the top tracks on SC and people sure as hell don't search for ELECTRO + guy with most friends.
you want to buy fake views, youtube is the only thing worth paying for as you will show up but then again unless you did a remix of someone famous, nobody will be looking for it.
This shit is just common sense. It amazes me how people just don't fucking get it. And then there is the music part. Blows my mind how people think they are gonna make it. And i'm an autistic idiot savant. So ya, pretty fucking sad that someone with aspergers seems to know how to use social networking.
only thing i find having a good twitter/facebook/SC following background (apart from bragging about it which should guarantee you bitches) is to support a good career. I mean your music is good, you are a good dj but you have only 500 facebook likes so promoters are a bit unsure of the potential you will have to fill the venue if instead they see 5,000 that is more impressive.
Best way to promote yourself is through Youtube but not buy uploading your own tracks:
-Imagine you just created Fart Fest (Original Mix) pure shit out of your ass but you make a funny/pathetic videoclip like Gangnamstyle people would come to see that and then goes viral.
-Second scenario is that someone with loads of followers uses your music in their videos, some trance uploaders have 10k followers you can try sharing with them your tune and see if they decide to put it on their channel but i am thinking on a bigger scale. People who upload their games of Call of Duty world of warcraft etc.... and have 500k followers or millions. I remember a guild of wow used Alex Morph - Walk The Edge in a video of the very last monster on that expansion set, got millions of views , that tune scored top 3 of the year and catapulted Morph's career.
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