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Future Music? Interesting Video? About Modulars? Surely Not?

Oh but they did.

Like all their interviews, aimed at dj ryan. Too bad they have to cater to the lowest coomon denominator.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Like all their interviews, aimed at dj ryan. Too bad they have to cater to the lowest coomon denominator.

At least there's something to see in it this time.

Take your pills you sour puss.

Damn it G. this s**t has some endless possibilities - now I can see how people have been so fascinated about it.

Cheers

Reaktor makes old school modular synths look like 1 preset casios. Even the nord modular is just ight years beyond what these old, granted great sounding , units can do.

Modulars are cool, but man, they seem like such a waste of $$$, space, electricity, etc. for what you get out of them. If someone offered me Buchla, though, hell yeah I'd take it.

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Originally posted by cryophonik ...... If someone offered me Buchla, though, hell yeah I'd take it.

He, he, this is my point - it would be just fascinating (at least to me) to be able almost manually play with different routing scenario to get your preferable sound.

Cheers

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Like all their interviews, aimed at dj ryan. Too bad they have to cater to the lowest coomon denominator.

i know, they only seem to care about pleasing those practically helpless canadiens

omg fucking learn to spell

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Originally posted by Evolve140 omg fucking learn to spell

u kno lik hocky?
canadiens luv hcoky

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...SL6HV0gGRl4CYCg

well damn, i learn something new every day. my dad's whole side of the family were canadien, he was born in Peterborough and I hold dual citizenship. my aunt moved to kentucky in the 70s... but other than that, a whole lineage exists in canada that i don't even know about. English/Irish immigrants.

either way, I like the videos. My knowledge of modular synthesis is well, let's just say if I said "limited" that would even be a far cry from the truth. I simply don't know enough about it. my talents lie in envelope shaping, processing, and general sound design, but i think it would be amazing to do a lot of the things they describe like swapping out modules for different filters and stuff. that's why i've been enjoying Diva so much, everything is so inter exchangable.

that analogue sound might just be coming back. like he said, a mix of hardware synth, in this case modular, with proper use of computer. some amazing music is yet to come, and some amazing stuff is already being made. despite the commercialization of dance music, like any music that was commercialized, true foundation does exists for this genre yet and especially for those who seek it.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Reaktor makes old school modular synths look like 1 preset casios. Even the nord modular is just ight years beyond what these old, granted great sounding , units can do.

While this is true, there's just barely any fun to be had patching stuff in reaktor, even compared to the nord modular/G2...

I've been facsinated with modular synths for a while now, I'm just hanging out to get my hands on Sonic Core's Scope system with the modular III/IV and Flexor software. I've decided I'd prefer this to eurorack hardware or old vintage shit.

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Originally posted by Evolve140 well damn, i learn something new every day. my dad's whole side of the family were canadien, he was born in Peterborough and I hold dual citizenship. my aunt moved to kentucky in the 70s... but other than that, a whole lineage exists in canada that i don't even know about. English/Irish immigrants. either way, I like the videos. My knowledge of modular synthesis is well, let's just say if I said "limited" that would even be a far cry from the truth. I simply don't know enough about it. my talents lie in envelope shaping, processing, and general sound design, but i think it would be amazing to do a lot of the things they describe like swapping out modules for different filters and stuff. that's why i've been enjoying Diva so much, everything is so inter exchangable. that analogue sound might just be coming back. like he said, a mix of hardware synth, in this case modular, with proper use of computer. some amazing music is yet to come, and some amazing stuff is already being made. despite the commercialization of dance music, like any music that was commercialized, true foundation does exists for this genre yet and especially for those who seek it.

Next thing I'm going to buy is a modular synth. I think this one looks like a great way to get into modular:

http://pittsburghmodular.com/cell-9...on-desktop-com/

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Originally posted by Teezdalien While this is true, there's just barely any fun to be had patching stuff in reaktor, even compared to the nord modular/G2... I've been facsinated with modular synths for a while now, I'm just hanging out to get my hands on Sonic Core's Scope system with the modular III/IV and Flexor software. I've decided I'd prefer this to eurorack hardware or old vintage shit.

the g2 i would disagree. The workflow is 100 times better. It just doesn't sound as good as a completely analog chain but even then the internal sample rate is 96k.

I would say it isn't fun in that you don't get to collect and add. That part of modular synthesis is what grabs you. I bought a g1 and g2 just for learning and i would say it is more exploration in sound than music. I also typically work on the math side as well and an oscilloscope trying to describe what is going on in a math context.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney the g2 i would disagree. The workflow is 100 times better. It just doesn't sound as good as a completely analog chain but even then the internal sample rate is 96k. I would say it isn't fun in that you don't get to collect and add. That part of modular synthesis is what grabs you. I bought a g1 and g2 just for learning and i would say it is more exploration in sound than music. I also typically work on the math side as well and an oscilloscope trying to describe what is going on in a math context.

So you prefer reaktor's workflow to the G2? I just find reaktor's separate panel and structure views a PITA compared to nord's environment.

I fully agree with everything else you've said.

the opposite, THe G2 has a much better workflow. The G1 is similar but sounds better. Reaktor is just so comprehensive that you sometimes have too many options. Sorry about that .

The G2 is a great way to get into modular synthesis. You can find an engine for about 600 to 800. The G1 rack is actually much nicer as it has all the knobs and you can find those for about the same amount. Most of the extra modules in the G2 can be done via the G1 like flip flop circuits and what not but the G2 is just more powerful and a great deal.

I had both expanded as well. The G1 still works with osx 10.6. Actually you can even get a micro modular which is actually the first one i got. It is enough to get started.

The cool thing about them is using them as audio processors. I have them patched with 2 rme ucx so i can send audio anywhere including audio files to the units .



The G2 and G1 on the right. The nord micro and drum on the left. The drum is rubbish. I have the 2 UCS on the left rack with then go to the apogee symphony. The great thing about the UCXs is that they do not require computer connection. Probably should of just got the ufx but it was incremental. I already had one. I would probably just get the ssl x patch.

I still think KarmaFX is the best modular plugin (although I've not tried Vaz yet).

He has screenies of the 64 bit version finally running over at his forum and they're due for imminent release on PC, which Mac 64 bit to follow afterwards.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney

Sick!

At the moment I'm fine with the G2 demo, even that with its limitations is great for learning with. I also use reaktor but like I said, much prefer the nord's environment.

Chet Singer's Ampere Modular macros for reaktor are pretty useful which are based on the nord's modules.

But yeah I'm pretty hell bent on getting the Sonic Core system...

Just looked at Sonic Core site. Jesus Christ 2400 to 4k EUR, you can get a real modular for that price. With real knobs.

Edit: I'm thinking the best soft modular at the moment has to be Reason with rack extensions, not ridiculously expensive and not bad workflow.

but that is more like a modular daw than a modular synth. There just isn't the basic modules one would expect. Bidule is like that but way more comprehensive. Not to detract from reason but i don't think that is what it does best. THe only thing about plogue like all french developpers is that it takes them fucking forever.

Reaktor and max msp are as good as it gets at the moment.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 He, he, this is my point - it would be just fascinating (at least to me) to be able almost manually play with different routing scenario to get your preferable sound. Cheers

http://www.propellerheads.se/reason/

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Originally posted by itsamemario http://www.propellerheads.se/reason/

Looks really interesting so far - are you using it? -> what is your experience/take on it?

Cheers

Software modular synth/sequencer in a 3D environment... AudioGL



I've been giving the trial a run, it's still in beta and some essential modules and functionality are still being developed, but so far I'm enjoying the experience.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien Software modular synth/sequencer in a 3D environment... AudioGL I've been giving the trial a run, it's still in beta and some essential modules and functionality are still being developed, but so far I'm enjoying the experience.

Interesting concept, and it sounds excellent.

I hope that he can do something about the GUI, as it's destined to be something that only synth nerds purchase otherwise. I think a lot of devs forget about the end user when they're creating something technically excellent.

While it does need quite a bit of work, mainly velocity implementation, proper envelopes, lfo's, delays and a few other control modules before I'd consider buying a license. The main idea of the 3D GUI and environment is what intrigues and impress me the most, it wasn't as hard to get used to as what I had initially thought it might have been, but some improvement of some of the parameter controls wouldn't go astray either.
The hardest part of the interface to grasp for me was the automation and sequencer, but have to say once you've built up a decent part of a track it's great to see it playback in 3D.

I think this definitely has some potential.

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