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Posted by cryophonik on Mar-11-2013 16:15:

Komplete 9 - coming March 27

http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/...plete-9/150871.

Battery 4, Monark, and more.


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-11-2013 16:30:

I swear I just bought Komplete 8, and I bought it when it came out.


Posted by cryophonik on Mar-11-2013 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
I swear I just bought Komplete 8, and I bought it when it came out.


Ultimate, or standard?

I bought the standard version upgrade when it was dirt cheap last year. Ultimate doesn't really appeal to me - too much sample content that I'll never use. I'm mostly only interested in Battery 4, but I'll wait and see what else is included in the standard 9 upgrade before I decide if it's worth $149 to me.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Mar-11-2013 16:54:

Wut about massive 2?


Posted by tehlord on Mar-11-2013 17:04:

I'm a little underwhelmed with Battery 4 and Monark tbh.

Monark seems to be just another Reaktor Ensemble (although some of them are cool) and Battery 4 is a GUI overhaul with some new FX thrown in.

I know, I'm probably exaggerating the not changes.

Probably a good time to upgrade Komplete for me though. I'm still on V6.


Posted by cryophonik on Mar-11-2013 17:12:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Probably a good time to upgrade Komplete for me though. I'm still on V6.


You'll get a LOT of new toys for $149 upgrading from K6. I'm looking at the NI site and it looks like all I'll get for the K8>K9 upgrade is Battery 4 (want), Monark (meh), and The Giant (meh). I already bought the vintage compressors last year and they are f'ing excellent. I was hoping that maybe Alicia's Keys would be included in standard, but nope. Oh well, I'll probably skip this upgrade and maybe get the Battery 3>4 upgrade after I check it out.

BTW, what the f### is NI thinking making a mono soft synth in 2013? [facepalm]


Posted by tehlord on Mar-11-2013 18:21:

Yeah it's a �149 upgrade here, I might have to go for that.

I suspect that Monark was using too much CPU and because of the Reaktor architecture they couldn't fiddle with it enough to optimise it properly so went 'all retro'


Posted by cryophonik on Mar-11-2013 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Battery 4 is a GUI overhaul with some new FX thrown in.



It's a lot more than that, actually. New browser/tagging system ala Maschine (one of my favorite features of Maschine). New sample library. 128 cells, with color-coding (that will be a handy feature, actually). Per-cell effects, output busses, internal sidechaining, etc. New sample-stretching algorithms with 7 modes. And, a new humanize feature that I'm not sure what it does, since B4 doesn't have a sequencer:

quote:
While your beat is running, use �humanize� to turn the most rigid of grooves into ultra laid-back looseness.


...maybe it just humanizes velocity?


Posted by tehlord on Mar-11-2013 18:57:

Battery 3 has the humanise function as well. It just randomises velocity, pitch, timing etc.

I still think they could have gone a bit further and included a midi drop and drag step sequencer at least. Shame.


Posted by cryophonik on Mar-11-2013 19:05:

I was hoping for better Maschine-Battery integration, but knowing NI, they may improve that in some B4 updates.

Yeah, now that you mention it, I do recall that Battery had the humanize feature, although I never really used it because I primarily use Battery with Sonar's step sequencer, which has a ton of humanization built into it.


Posted by cryophonik on Mar-30-2013 15:12:

Got my K9 upgrade and installed it last night.

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
K8>K9 upgrade is Battery 4 (want), Monark (meh), and The Giant (meh). I already bought the vintage compressors last year and they are f'ing excellent.


Battery 4 is pretty cool. The new library is definitely more electronica-based. Not a lot of added features, but the interface looks much better, cleaner, and more modern, the new effects are great, and I love the new Maschine-style browser/librarian. It's cool that the cells automatically change color to match the drum category (e.g., kick, snare, HH, etc.).

The Giant is actually really nice sounding with a wide range of tones. I could see this being very useful in trance. There is a "cinematic" version of it that is designed for just wild effects that sound nothing like a real piano.

I was wrong above about the effects plugins - it turns out that K9 does not include the vintage compressors that I already have, but the new Solid State series (SSL clones) and they're very nice, too. I think it may be official - I now have more compressors than tracks to use them on.

Haven't played with Monark much yet, but the few minutes that I did spend with it left positive impressions. Back to exploring.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Mar-30-2013 19:56:

I got a problem fellas and maybe you could help out. I got complete 5 and the serial won't work anymore but its legit if i call they can prob fix it. Thing is my new mac pro is not able to install it because its too old, so how can i can get an upgrade to work?


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2013 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
I got a problem fellas and maybe you could help out. I got complete 5 and the serial won't work anymore but its legit if i call they can prob fix it. Thing is my new mac pro is not able to install it because its too old, so how can i can get an upgrade to work?


Did you ever register the product with NI?
Because that is required if you have a legit copy.
You should have an online account, and it should contain all your serial numbers.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Mar-30-2013 20:32:

quote:
Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
Did you ever register the product with NI?
Because that is required if you have a legit copy.
You should have an online account, and it should contain all your serial numbers.


Yeah its there jay


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2013 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Yeah its there jay


If your account is online, then you should have valid serial numbers there as well.
If your problem is that you don't have the discs, uou can always request new installation discs.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Mar-30-2013 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
If your account is online, then you should have valid serial numbers there as well.
If your problem is that you don't have the discs, uou can always request new installation discs.


I'll get back to you on this and see what happens.


Posted by cryophonik on Mar-30-2013 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
If your problem is that you don't have the discs, uou can always request new installation discs.


If he wants to upgrade, then the K5 discs really aren't necessary as the Komplete 9 upgrade box will include discs for everything (excluding the older products in Komplete 5, of course).


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2013 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
If he wants to upgrade, then the K5 discs really aren't necessary as the Komplete 9 upgrade box will include discs for everything (excluding the older products in Komplete 5, of course).


true

not really sure what he was asking


Posted by cryophonik on Mar-30-2013 21:10:

quote:
Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
not really sure what he was asking


Me either. JP - why won't your MBP install Komplete 5?


Posted by Juan Paulino on Mar-30-2013 21:29:

Hold on a sec, so basically you get a full version of komplete 9 wen you get the upgrade?

When i register in the service center, it says serial not compatible. I got complete 5 when it was a special a deal, maybe thats why.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Mar-30-2013 21:36:

Also it won't show up on the list registered serials because it was before 2011

I'm going to call and see wuts up


Posted by cryophonik on Mar-30-2013 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Hold on a sec, so basically you get a full version of komplete 9 wen you get the upgrade?


Yes, it comes in a box with 10 DVDs (standard version) or an HD (Ultimate version).

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
When i register in the service center, it says serial not compatible. I got complete 5 when it was a special a deal, maybe thats why.


It shouldn't matter if it was a special deal - a valid serial number is a valid serial number as far as NI is concerned. Log into your account and see if it is registered. If not, you'll need to sort that out with NI before you buy/install Komplete 9, because the Service Center won't let you authorize the Komplete 9 upgrade if there is no previously authorized full version of Komplete detected.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Mar-30-2013 21:42:

Alright got it, thanks Dave.


Posted by cryophonik on Mar-30-2013 21:45:

Are you sure that the "special deal" you purchased was a full version of Komplete 5 and not an upgrade?


Posted by Juan Paulino on Mar-30-2013 21:47:

Yeah i'm sure


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