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DMG EQuilibrium
Daaaamn this looks nice. Anybody running this at the moment?
http://dmgaudio.com/products_equilibrium.php

Overview
Massively flexible EQ suitable for all critical professional applications
Audio Engine can be incredibly low CPU usage, or incredibly high for mastering applications
EQ features pristine digital curves, plus circuit models of vintage EQs, and engineering filters
Completely reconfigurable UI with set-up wizard to suit to your specific workflow
Extensive routing, grouping, channel and metering control
Extensive analyser functionality, including 1/3 octave, 1/12 octave, spectrograph
Even in lowest CPU mode, generates super-high-quality prototypes - clear undistorted top-end
In FIR mode, Linear, Analogue, Minimum, Zero-Latency Analogue or even Free phase control
32 bands of EQ, Q 0.1->50, +/-36dB range
Each band can be Peak, HPF, LPF, High Shelf, Low Shelf or Notch
In stereo, each bank can process Mid, Side or the full stereo image
Surround support for channels groupings in DTS
Fully parametric filters (high and low-pass), 6/12/18/24/30/36/42/48db/oct
Windows VST, VST3 and AAX as 32+64bit, RTAS 32bit
Mac VST, VST3, AU and AAX as 32+64bit, RTAS 32bit
Sound
Circuit models of vintage EQs from history, model numbers including: 4000, 3 (4 modes), 110, 550, 88, 32, 250
Filters include: Coincident, Butterworth, Chebyshev, Bessel, Critical, Legendre, Elliptic, Allpass types
First-order, second-order, vintage, and tilt shelves
Classic DMG Bells and notches, with a +/-36dB range, and a Q range from 0.1 to 50
Classic DMG Shelves which let you move the resonance above or below the curve
Classic DMG Filters at 6/12/18/24/30/36/42/48 db/octave, sweepable resonance
M/S processing mode, allows you to process Mid, Side or the Stereo image
L/R processing mode, for independent Left and Right EQ
Surround sound support upto 7.1 DTS, with channel grouping matrix, and per-pair M/S processing
Per-band phase control, plus quick access to Linear, Analogue and Minimum phase modes
Extensive Impulse Response design controls, including a selection of parametric windows, length and padding
Vision
Flexible, modular, configurable UI
Big, clear, antialiased graph
Hi-res Spectrum analyser with multiple modes
Range, to scale the EQ response, both +ve and -ve
Frequency shift, to allow you to retune the response
Configurable multi-channel metering, supporting K-metering and variable ballistics
8 banks of A/B
Full preset management system
Undo/redo
Autolisten mode, for quick finding/adjustment of frequencies
Clip LED
i tried equality, and liked it, but in the end Fabfilter Pro q just sounded better to me and imo a more elegant interface (especially mid/side as you need to instances to utilize it)
So i just dont see the point in trying another graphical eq tbh.
Sorry that's not entirely relevant to your post 
that does look nice kind of like equality v.2!
Yup, similar situation here. I tried Equality, but only after I already owned Pro-Q and Waves H-EQ and there was just too much redundancy. That's not a knock against Equality, though - it's a great EQ and it gets a lot of love by some serious industry pros.
find the ddmf bundle better
Spline EQ is just on another level. Still needs a few developmentgs but its free unless you want more than 10 bands or something then its 15. BUt ya,basically it uses bezier curves allowing for things normal EQs can 't do. And there is there transpose paramater which for some really fucked reason nobody else does. Even asked the fabfilter guy to add it, i mean it is such a basic feature everyone will use , and easy to implement.
Testing the demo for this right now. I think this might actually become my go-to EQ.
Seriously awesome. Adaptive-Q (with inverse), various curve emulation for each type of filter, spectrogram, ability to shift the points up or down the spectrum as a unit, scale modifying, solo point listening, etc.
Most comprehensive EQ I've seen thus far. Of course, to each their own, but I can definitely recommend this at the moment as a top all-in-one solution.
Whatever happened to decent sound design, tiny bits of cutting and boosting with a 6/12/18/24/48 filter slope?
Digital EQ's now have so many "repair" options, to turn sound in a direction so far away from what it ever was, that I see these tools more as retrospective mangling tools than "surgical precission" tools
Good sounds, well chosen for a mix, don't need EQ
not sure what your point is. Rather annoying to hear the same utterances from great mixers passed on without consideration for the intended use of a tool. EDM was created by the abuse of tools. This ridiculous naturalism you seem to be pursuing is beyond retarded. ALmost like you and Joof and every other future dreading hairless ape should just suck each other off and then chip in for a delaurean and go back to a time where you can feel relevant.
The problem with purism is that your philosophy is always approaching an asymptote of stupidity. Why use EQs at all, compression is just a band aid solution for not enough cow bell, W]why use a synth when guitars are cool. I mean why do anything different....
meanwhile some kid using FL doing the wrong thing with the wrong tool is adding to music things you could and will never come close to.
Ok, a bit more philosophical then
Content CREATION
Or content RECYCLING
In the "old" days the sound source was the center of the universe and one used tools to shape that sound
Nowadays you can record your grandma farting, put her though melodyne or stick her in one of the many "waveshaping" synths, to finish it of to a near unreal dubstep wobble with an EQ like above.
Modern producing moved from source to proces. IMHO i don't think this is progress, i think it's over availabillity of content and the urge ITB producahs feel as a need to "differientate" since ITB sounds are all maths, possibilities are unlimited.
However that doesn't mean that more processing is better, that doesn't mean that using 8 plugins in a row makes you cutting edge, or high pass a bassline, with linear phase and transpose it with above EQ and call it an ultra cool lead will not be looked upon as pathetic.
i guess the waiting is on 1 VST that does it all, Dynamic EQ, compression, sidechaining, phase widening and all the other 23 shitty algo techniques that keep on being repackaged in different GUISs all the time. Put some Afrojack presets in there too while at it and all nu guys will find it "groundbreaking" again. I'm not behind, or ahead, there is no curve, at the end there is just me.....
If tomorrow someone would write a VST that could breakup each song into a full DAW project full midi with patches creates automatically for your synth of choice, now THAT would be nice, if they also could extract the vocal as perfect accapella while at it, it would be groundbreaking.
Regarding the FLStudio kid with differentiation deficiency:
Everybody is phissing in the same pond
Same daws, same plugins, same workflow, same samples, same soundsets, same remixpacks, same templates, same youtube tuts, same.........
No one needs more Ableton minimal techno, or vengeance / nexus template house.
The pond is empty, it has been pissed in, shit in and now it's dried up they found your grandma laying on the bottom too. I hope u understand I don't want to phish there anymore. I also didn't like the pond better before they dumped your granny in there, so no need to desire what has been. Your horizon can be as wide as 360c.
Now... Neither is phissing a popularity contest, you do it because you like it. You don't need telling me where to fish... L4C you're not next level, your being caught up in NU land.....
Though the vst name implies balance, driven by boredom pirated abuse by that FLkiddie will be it's destiny.......
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| Originally posted by Looney4Clooney meanwhile some kid using FL doing the wrong thing with the wrong tool is adding to music things you could and will never come close to. |
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| Originally posted by itsamemario Thanks man! |
I managed to get Waves H-EQ during the year-end sale in 2012, and its great for what I need. This looks good, but I have no reason to get another EQ just like the one I already have.
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| Originally posted by Raphie Ok, a bit more philosophical then Content CREATION Or content RECYCLING In the "old" days the sound source was the center of the universe and one used tools to shape that sound Nowadays you can record your grandma farting, put her though melodyne or stick her in one of the many "waveshaping" synths, to finish it of to a near unreal dubstep wobble with an EQ like above. |
Correct only synths, even more so, only outboard, even more so playing live triggered by sequencer during mixdown, even more mixdown is one pass, no individual channel recordings again all fx and processing live.
So my synths are my "band" if i can't get it out of my synth (except a vocaltrack) it's not going to be used. If i can't get it realtime, because i also want the synth for someting else, i need to make a choice and 1 of the 2 need to go.
Very rigid, restricted and focus driven. More peope should try that, because if you can't play what you make and because of that borrow it from someone else, you are micro DJ, piggyback riding on someone else his talent, in a rat race where the people who sell the content, earn more than the people who try to use it trying to be cool.
There is an overload of content, an overload of people trying to produce with it.
Soundcloud is full of "me too" crap. Create your own sound from A to Z and be proud rather then trying to be found "hip"
Nowadays you don't hear many songs anymore, you just hear Machine templates with Ableton chordstab samples fuck that...... As long as your song can be broken down to the content used to create it, it's microDJ crap, using nexus with a chord pogression tool on top can't change that. Btw respect to the artists that make great ITB tracks, they are there, just not as many
Btw2: what I do, you can do ITB too, my way is certainly not the only way
But is a deviation from dragging and dropping construction kits, browsing presetpacks and copying chord progressions and rithmic intervals.
Beware Ableton 9 is here, Push is here the end of this month, we can expect a full revival of Pioneer or Traktor type "complextro" edits in traktor starting april
Again everybdy using the same 51gb library, or if they got Komplete too, you'll be spoiled with the eva same Massive presetpacks too. It's the new Magix Musicmaker next level.....
Let the beatrolls on top op the shepards competition begin.....l
Raphie I respect your approach in trying to make everything from scratch and keeping it less fussed with, nothing wrong with that but I thought it worth mentioning that a lot of producers out there do share this philosophy and again thats fine, BUT then when I hear thier stuff I think to myself, wtf, all that gear, all that philosophy, all that desire to create an individual sound and yet the tracks are sooo unoriginal.
I have in mind Squarepusher - I've heard stuff just like his but from 25 years ago, he and others like him are deluded into thinking they are sonic wizards making something particularly unique, dripping with integrity and orignality, but most of the time it's a great big wet turd of nothingness.
So I find it hard to square thier espoused philisophical puritanical approach with the turd output they manage to make.
That, my friend, is the unfortunate discrepancy between vision, ambition and talent 
If i was good, i would have made this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99h4XTDiM5g&sns=em
Unfortunately i'm not that good, but this is way more INTENSE, BEAUTIFUL and PURE than 99% of the Ableton, Camel Audio and Native Instrument content "me too" driven crap posted here.
Squarepusher? When has he ever been minimalist or "unfussed-with?"
I guess some of his live instrument stuff went in that direction, but if you're looking for someone who's generally all about lack of effects and editing, he isn't it.
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| Originally posted by Raphie Ok, a bit more philosophical then Content CREATION Or content RECYCLING In the "old" days the sound source was the center of the universe and one used tools to shape that sound Nowadays you can record your grandma farting, put her though melodyne or stick her in one of the many "waveshaping" synths, to finish it of to a near unreal dubstep wobble with an EQ like above. Modern producing moved from source to proces. IMHO i don't think this is progress, i think it's over availabillity of content and the urge ITB producahs feel as a need to "differientate" since ITB sounds are all maths, possibilities are unlimited. However that doesn't mean that more processing is better, that doesn't mean that using 8 plugins in a row makes you cutting edge, or high pass a bassline, with linear phase and transpose it with above EQ and call it an ultra cool lead will not be looked upon as pathetic. i guess the waiting is on 1 VST that does it all, Dynamic EQ, compression, sidechaining, phase widening and all the other 23 shitty algo techniques that keep on being repackaged in different GUISs all the time. Put some Afrojack presets in there too while at it and all nu guys will find it "groundbreaking" again. I'm not behind, or ahead, there is no curve, at the end there is just me..... If tomorrow someone would write a VST that could breakup each song into a full DAW project full midi with patches creates automatically for your synth of choice, now THAT would be nice, if they also could extract the vocal as perfect accapella while at it, it would be groundbreaking. Regarding the FLStudio kid with differentiation deficiency: Everybody is phissing in the same pond Same daws, same plugins, same workflow, same samples, same soundsets, same remixpacks, same templates, same youtube tuts, same......... No one needs more Ableton minimal techno, or vengeance / nexus template house. The pond is empty, it has been pissed in, shit in and now it's dried up they found your grandma laying on the bottom too. I hope u understand I don't want to phish there anymore. I also didn't like the pond better before they dumped your granny in there, so no need to desire what has been. Your horizon can be as wide as 360c. Now... Neither is phissing a popularity contest, you do it because you like it. You don't need telling me where to fish... L4C you're not next level, your being caught up in NU land..... Though the vst name implies balance, driven by boredom pirated abuse by that FLkiddie will be it's destiny....... |
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| Originally posted by Looney4Clooney the only problem is that you still use a sequencer which sort of undermines your entire philosophy. Trust me, i know hundreds of musicians that would laugh at anyone that couldn't play their own parts without a sequencer. You are just as narrow minded but on the other end. Some would say using a a DI is cheating. You should be micing those synths. I respect your wanting to do things you enjoy but don't knock what others do when what they do is entirely more interesting than what you do because it has been done. |
You do mastering which kinda undermines everything you say about taking credit for other peoples creativity.
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| Originally posted by itsamemario You do mastering which kinda undermines everything you say about taking credit for other peoples creativity. |
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| Originally posted by Raphie Interesting, please elaborate..... |
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| Originally posted by itsamemario What's there to elaborate on? You slap on a couple of compressors, an eq and a limiter and suddenly you're entitled to 8 spots in the metadata. Anyone can master. |
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| Originally posted by Raphie fair point and taken. Never said it was the only direction, or right direction but it was my direction, with a justification of why. It's more about essence, fewer components in a song, look at the video, the guy had the 2 things i don't have: playing and composing skills, and he delivers, with 1 instrument and a looper, a very strong message. Which is on a totally different level than 99.99% of what we now see as EDM, the EDM has become a candystore of buildingblocks, Which were supposed to be there to speed up workflow, but now have become a pittyful excuse for what people call a track, the only thing cool,about the track being the "groove" or bassline and that's not even theirs And it's shamlesly accepted as norm, even look at the Push and NI commercials no one cares any more, composing has "evolved" to content selection and mangling Something i personally struggle with, as it's nothing else then posing with other peoples talent. I mean, take away all the libraries and see what's left on this forum, a handfull of guys that can actually make tracks, memorable , or at least with identity. And i think that where the "back into time" discussion comes from as well. We don't need to go back, but there is a generation who sorts of respects the skills that were required 20 years ago, opossed to what people nowadays call producing. Wether that's false sentiment, no longer a reality, sticking your head in the sand, doesn't matter you either feel it, or you don't. Maybe content selection and "library agilitty" (knowing where to get sounds, deduct your vision into them and apply, rather than how to make them) has become the new critical skill, who knows, but don't want to be that guy. I want to be either the guy on the video or content creator, on the creation side of the production curve, not the consuming side. Not even on a professional level, as i will never be a professional musician, engineer yes, musician no. That if if you listen i can say i MADE that, not I SELECTED & ASSEMBLED that. |
The difference being described here is that person A sits down in front of a collection of musical instruments and (within the realms of their ability) creates something entirely from scratch with as little preconceived notion as possible.
Person B scrolls through Beatport to see what's current, then through Beatports sound pack selection, matches the two up and throws a few loops in Live and releases it as a single. If you're really lucky they might click a few notes in the piano roll and call it 'a melody'.
You could pick a million holes in each of these examples, but if you can't see the fundamental difference then you've probably not done both.
If you can't understand how similar hardware and software are, you don't really see the big picture. I woukd go further than that and say software opens up a million more avenues to create from scratch than hardware. And raphies decision seems to imply software involves your example of dj Ryan while hardware doesn't. It is a personal choice. Hardware has presets. The jp 8000 was trance's NI massive.
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