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Posted by legendofdeath on Apr-03-2013 22:04:

Melodic house

Hey !

Almost complete with this, just the last mixing and mastering left.

Tell me what you think, good and bad feedbacks
I really appreciate if you give me some advice and tips because I haven't finished a complete track yet, even that I have produced a while now

https://soundcloud.com/legendofdeat...e-shorter-break
Forgot to raise the master volume when I exported it...

THanks


Posted by topofthew0rld on Apr-03-2013 22:37:

Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by legendofdeath
Hey !

Almost complete with this, just the last mixing and mastering left.

Tell me what you think, good and bad feedbacks
I really appreciate if you give me some advice and tips because I haven't finished a complete track yet, even that I have produced a while now

https://soundcloud.com/legendofdeat...e-shorter-break
Forgot to raise the master volume when I exported it...

THanks


wrong forum. but here's my thoughts:
your biggest flaw is the mixdown. also your sounds are very generic and thin. do you have a compressor and limiter on your master?
experiment with layering and try using something other than nexus.
i would start with a fatter kick drum. sample one from another track.
musically there's no hook in the track for me, it's very forgettable.

still not a bad effort, keep making music


Posted by legendofdeath on Apr-03-2013 22:57:

Re: Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by topofthew0rld
wrong forum. but here's my thoughts:
your biggest flaw is the mixdown. also your sounds are very generic and thin. do you have a compressor and limiter on your master?
experiment with layering and try using something other than nexus.
i would start with a fatter kick drum. sample one from another track.
musically there's no hook in the track for me, it's very forgettable.

still not a bad effort, keep making music


Nothing on the master

Btw, thanks for your feedback


Posted by legendofdeath on Apr-04-2013 16:39:

Re: Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by topofthew0rld
wrong forum. but here's my thoughts:
your biggest flaw is the mixdown. also your sounds are very generic and thin. do you have a compressor and limiter on your master?
experiment with layering and try using something other than nexus.
i would start with a fatter kick drum. sample one from another track.
musically there's no hook in the track for me, it's very forgettable.

still not a bad effort, keep making music

But do you actually have anything on the master when the track isn't done? I mean, dont you put compressors, limiters... after its ready? (after you have eq all elements and so on)


Posted by Juan Paulino on Apr-04-2013 17:14:

Sounds good to me, I like it.


Posted by topofthew0rld on Apr-04-2013 17:16:

Re: Re: Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by legendofdeath
But do you actually have anything on the master when the track isn't done? I mean, dont you put compressors, limiters... after its ready? (after you have eq all elements and so on)


you will hear differing opinions on this but i personally recommend mixing into a compressor & limiter, or at the very least throwing them on your mix before you post it online


Posted by legendofdeath on Apr-04-2013 18:20:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by topofthew0rld
you will hear differing opinions on this but i personally recommend mixing into a compressor & limiter, or at the very least throwing them on your mix before you post it online

Ok, thanks for your advice


Posted by legendofdeath on Apr-04-2013 18:38:

Re: Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by topofthew0rld
wrong forum. but here's my thoughts:
your biggest flaw is the mixdown. also your sounds are very generic and thin. do you have a compressor and limiter on your master?
experiment with layering and try using something other than nexus.
i would start with a fatter kick drum. sample one from another track.
musically there's no hook in the track for me, it's very forgettable.

still not a bad effort, keep making music

I created a new fatter kick, say what you think about it
Volume is really low...
https://soundcloud.com/legendofdeat...e-diffrent-kick


Posted by evo8 on Apr-04-2013 20:17:

Re: Re: Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by legendofdeath
I created a new fatter kick, say what you think about it
Volume is really low...
https://soundcloud.com/legendofdeat...e-diffrent-kick


why dont you post your track here like everyone else????
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=48&s=


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-06-2013 01:35:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by topofthew0rld
you will hear differing opinions on this but i personally recommend mixing into a compressor & limiter, or at the very least throwing them on your mix before you post it online


it does vary based on who you ask, but mixing into a compressor and limiter is a horrible mixing decision in my opinion. this is actually really, really shitty advice to give. at least you're trying to be helpful though.

as far as putting them on a mix before you throw it online, that's usually a decent idea if you plan on showing it to people other than producers and DJs who don't understand the concept of a volume knob. anyone who is judging your track for mixing, etc, will know that they need to turn it up on their speakers to properly hear it.

just disregard this guy's advice. other's will certainly back me up on this, as well.


Posted by Miclocker on Apr-06-2013 04:15:

But again, what is it for?

you want us to listen your sound with our monitoring system?
notice that i am using yamaha speakers/beyer headphones, what about you? can you send your monitoring reference?

what is it for? mastering internet, nightclub, Concert event, CD?

for me, your sound as good as soundcloud
now, this is not the best, and you know it.

this is not because of your compressor, but the misuse of it.
(and please, for the guy who wasn't able to use a compressor; It is a good start to learn our knowledge, if any

single compressor can solve your mastering problems, but may not provide as well as a Multi-band processors and Maximizer.

But before that, what is it for?


Posted by legendofdeath on Apr-07-2013 09:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Miclocker
But again, what is it for?

you want us to listen your sound with our monitoring system?
notice that i am using yamaha speakers/beyer headphones, what about you? can you send your monitoring reference?

what is it for? mastering internet, nightclub, Concert event, CD?

for me, your sound as good as soundcloud
now, this is not the best, and you know it.

this is not because of your compressor, but the misuse of it.
(and please, for the guy who wasn't able to use a compressor; It is a good start to learn our knowledge, if any

single compressor can solve your mastering problems, but may not provide as well as a Multi-band processors and Maximizer.

But before that, what is it for?

Yes I want you to listen with your monitors and tell how it sounds, how the mix is and if you like the arragement and what you think about the whole track.
I am using M-Audio Av 40 and Akg k240 Studio (Headphones).

I haven't made the track for a specific use, I don't think it's a club track, I think it's for just normal listening purpose (CD). Mastering internet?


Posted by derail on Apr-07-2013 09:54:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
it does vary based on who you ask, but mixing into a compressor and limiter is a horrible mixing decision in my opinion. this is actually really, really shitty advice to give. at least you're trying to be helpful though.


Yes, it totally varies depending on who you ask.

Producers can go either way - mixing with a limiter on the master track, or leaving the master track empty and leaving the limiting until the mastering stage. Both methods can produce excellent results.

From my perspective, when I was starting out and tried mixing with a limiter on the master, I really struggled - it was really messing with my levels.

For the last few years, I've had a limiter on the master and had no problems with it. Perhaps it comes down to the quality of the mixdown before it hits the limiter - a bad mixdown will behave a lot more unpredictably/ extremely when hitting a limiter.

To each their own, both methods are valid if the process works for you and you're getting the results you want!


Posted by Miclocker on Apr-07-2013 17:50:

I will increase level of the intro until 1 minute by few db.

as your kick (starting at 1 minute) suddenly add 6db it could be very stressful to most sound system.


Posted by Andy28 on Apr-07-2013 20:26:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Melodic house

quote:
Originally posted by derail

To each their own, both methods are valid if the process works for you and you're getting the results you want!


I agree with this.

I wouldn't say it was shitty advice at all, just don't over do it.
I never start a project with one on the master but somewhere along the line it will appear and stay there, usually quite early on.


Posted by legendofdeath on Apr-07-2013 21:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Miclocker
I will increase level of the intro until 1 minute by few db.

as your kick (starting at 1 minute) suddenly add 6db it could be very stressful to most sound system.

Thats the mastering process, rigt?
I have mixed the track now, but the I had to keep the volume low so it doesnt peak red. The advice you gave me and what I said can I do that in "the mastering process"?
Have a listening if you want


Posted by derail on Apr-07-2013 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by legendofdeath
Thats the mastering process, rigt?


No, the balance between sounds is the mixing process. Ideally, you shouldn't be able to hear a difference after mastering. Your song should sound as good as it's going to get, in terms of punch, clarity, detail, everything, after the mixing process.



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