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Who ripped it off?

Was listening to Daft Punk - Superheroes, and heard that pad coming in, and immediately a question struck my brain Where have I heard this pad before? Sounds like someone from the modern scene did that, although, kill me, but I cant remember who. Any tips?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRt5z880CFY

Found the answer myself. That pad is clearly ripped off by Mat Zo - Frequency Flyer, check out yourself (2:07-onwards)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x8pgAJC0Hw

Good find! You should submit that to whosampled.com

Wait. Didn't Mat Zo get ripped off by Will.I.Am and got pist off about it?

i think they just commented on it. But you can't really compare interscopes cash cow and the 100 copies they sold of the other track which is really a chord progression and not subject to copyright laws.

they really fucked up the hole will i am thing. they had interscope by the balls but as soon as they admitted that they didn't give permission, will i am went into damage recovery and matt zo and arty lost some considerable leverage.

talk to your fucking legal team before ever saying anything in public especially this big.

I think william is an idiot for sampling that dumb track.

so before that, he was totally tits ?

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney so before that, he was totally tits ?

Yes of course

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 Good find! You should submit that to whosampled.com

Would be easier to report them as a whole artist, all their tracks sampled something from somewhere, nobody seems to care and i don't know if there's law work behind them.

I am going to rip Mozart seems thight.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney they really fucked up the hole will i am thing. they had interscope by the balls but as soon as they admitted that they didn't give permission, will i am went into damage recovery and matt zo and arty lost some considerable leverage.

why was this such a turning point?

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Originally posted by Allied Nations why was this such a turning point?

because probably instead of going on court were will i am could be really raped now will simply send a check and tell them to have their mouth closed.

There's no real difference between abusing vs stealing both things are illegal, it's just that probably since he stated that is willing to repair the damage caused it will be treated by civil law/friendly negotiation instead of by penal copyright laws that could even involve prison (but not for this for sure i think nobody has gone to jail because of piracy except maybe the megaupload owner i don't know how it ended)

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Originally posted by Allied Nations why was this such a turning point?

They gained nothing by saying it wasn't cleared. They forced him to save face and that considerably lowers the potential financial gain they could of made because that leverage is gone. Both labels knew that there was no way you could deny the theft. The best case now could of been writer royalties as i think the audio was a sound alike but as if that is going to happen. Pretty sure they will issue a licensing deal, a cash payout to grease the label head to convince the original producers of the deal with a portion of the royalties and some seemingly great deal like 100% royalties after the first year which they will think is fantastic except that track is not a single, will probably never be synced and will not ever be publicized in any way. Will I Am already took the , i am just such a fan route which you can be pretty damn sure he isn't. That track will be buried.

Basically, they could of got the same deal and more for not disclosing the details and actually saying they had an agreement. Will I Am maintains what ever they consider integrity ,which would of been secured with hush money in the millions and they would get what ever they are going to get now. And you would not have to deal with a major label wanting to skull fuck you into the ground because right or wrong, when you make them look stupid, that is what they want to do.

this won't go to court. That is the last thing you do when dealing with a major label concerning their main cash cow unless you are also backed by a major label. Which they are not. You can already see how the trance producers are now being nice and cooperative.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/..._n_3094691.html

Now, thats what i call a rip-off.. its like taken straight from the track

Rebound has entered the beatport top 100 on a pretty good position. Again this is obviously not a bad thing. Publicity,cash... i would trust some producers if they tell me that this pisses them off, they worked so hard, they made great art... and somebody shamelesly stole their work....

But it's not Arty or Mat Zo's case as if they weren't in the business for the fame and money they would produce real music and not shit, both are capable specially Mat Zo.

Fuck the 3.

Yes hit music is crap by default. Nobody that makes music which is liked by a lot of people do so because they like it themselves.

Also, I don't see why the court thing was messed up. First of all it wouldn't benedit mat zo nor arty to have william being given jailtime. Also USA has jury trial. My lawyer (not music related) advised me to steer clear from them as they tend to favour US citizens over foreign plaintiffs. It could actually turn out well for Will I Am. Especially since his cashflow outranks that of his opponent so he has the means to drive up costs to an insane ammount if that would help him.

This thing was bound to be settled without court ever being involved. Simply because the stakes (especially for william) are just too high. From a financial perspective, the current situation would probably be the most beneficial one for Anjunabeats and co.

umm , you would file a civil suite , not criminal. lol. I would probably get a new lawyer.

The court case won't happen now as Richie said as the Inter will just cutt a weak check to make them piss off rather than take on inter's army of lawyers.

If they were smart though, they should file in UK court; Will.I.AM has significant UK holdings and 19 management (yes, WillIam is managed by them in the UK) would probably pull major strings for Anjuna (i.e. serious licensing spots) just to fuck off an bury and bury the whole saga.

They could still make a pretty penny off this if they play their cards right. Trying to get a cut of royalties on one single is probably the longer and less fruitful path to take at this stage.

You either keep totally quiet then suckerpunch them with a suit (and good luck talking your way out of that publicly) or you do a deal before it rears it head and they pay you to never mention it.

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