CD Releasing Without the Original Mix

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Posted by Coup on Sep-21-2002 07:42:

CD Releasing Without the Original Mix

Being a CD collector this is really starting to get on my tits! u buy / order a cd of a track u like, to support the artist and enjoy collecting music and they dont even put the damn original mix on half of them!

Jurgen Vries - The Theme - Original Mix not on cd
Dumonde - Can U Dig It? - Original Mix not on cd
4 Strings - Diving - Well i ordered cd1 and thats just wank, i didnt no there were 2 cd's and cd1 is awful, not even a version without vocals!

Is there a reason for this? i find it offense in a way, that artists/record companies moan about the MP3, and sales, but when u do buy their products, they dont even include what youre buying it for!

Btw most my cd's i order off the net, if i new they didnt have it on in the shop i wouldnt buy them

Posted by abracadabra on Sep-21-2002 09:30:

Really annoys me too mate, im convinced its just another way of ripping us off.

Posted by Nell on Sep-21-2002 13:40:

u ever heard of importing stuff?!?! christ you must be crazy to buy UK releases on cd!?!?!?

check my cd list of maxi's out
HERE i only buy UK releases if they are exclusive to the UK. Imports are the same price, and shipping is minimal if you buy a bunch of singles.

The reason cd singles are so lame in the uk, is ocs of the lame CIN. read HERE fpr the rules on UK releases.

you said the 4 strings cd sucked, well yes it did.. check out the liquid recordings cd...

4 Strings - Diving (Maxi CD, 2002, Liquid Recordings, cat#LQCDM26) �4.30

Diving (Radio Edit) (3.39)
Diving (Original Vocal Mix) (6.55)
Diving (Hiver & Hammer's Different Gear Remix) (9.24)
Diving (Original Mix) (7.00)
Diving (Cosmic Gate Vocal Mix) (7.49)
Diving (Minimalistix Vocal Mix) (7.00)

and now compared to the lame uk release...

4 Strings - Diving (CD, 2002, Virgin/Nebula, cat#VCRD108) �2.99

Diving (Vocal Radio Edit)
Diving (Minimalistix Vocal Mix)
Into The Night (RMB Vocal Remix)

very shit as you can see. ive got over 600 cd's now and the majority are from outside the UK. its all lame. to make matters worse they include 1 min of into thte night thts shit as well. and i already had it on the previous liquid cd...

4 Strings - Into The Night (MAXI CD, 2002, LIquid Recordins) �4.30

Vocal Radio Mix
Original Radio Mix
Original Vocal Mix
4 Strings Remix
RMB Vocal Mix
Symphony Of Strings Remix
Original Mix

then add the spinnin records cd release and you get the coast 2 caost adn the chillout mixes to for �3. seriously, IMPORT!

Posted by noikeee on Sep-21-2002 13:44:

when I saw this thread I thought it was about tracks that didn't have any version called the "original mix".. like Solar Stone - Seven Cities.. guess that would make another good thread.

Posted by Civic on Sep-21-2002 14:33:

i was thinking about the same - and Seven Cities was the one I thought about, too

Posted by Coup on Sep-22-2002 02:56:

i totally understand u DJ NEILSON, i do try and get maxi's, most of my cd's are bought online, but where imports all the foreign maxi's?

sites i use are

www.hmv.co.uk
www.amazon.co.uk
www.recordstore.co.uk

normally i get imports from them, but sometimes u just dont no!

Posted by kiddiejon on Sep-22-2002 10:10:

lmao, and the morral of the story is?

buy a cd writer and make your own cds

Posted by aloep on Sep-22-2002 10:25:

Because of the 20 minute CIN rule they have to edit nearly all the tracks if it's a dance record on CD to fit enoug tracks onto it. What many labels such as Nebula often do is stick the Radio Edit of the original and put 2 remixes on. I've no idea why, maybe they think there's more demand to hear remixes?

I've not bought any UK release CD's in a long time because �4 (which they usually are) is a hell of a lot of money to pay for something with only 3 tracks usually. I remember the good old days when you used to get 5 or 6 tracks on a CD and full 12" mixes but even then they had a 40 minute rule.

When they say that MP3's are killing the music industry, CIN should sit and have a good think about what they are doing because the 20 minute rule is going to do nothing but persuade people to download MP3's instead of wasting their money on a CD with 3 tracks on it.

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-22-2002 10:45:

quote:
Originally posted by kiddiejon
lmao, and the morral of the story is?

buy a cd writer and make your own cds

...or just read the damn tracklist before you buy anything...

Posted by Coup on Sep-22-2002 17:14:

quote:
Originally posted by aloep
Because of the 20 minute CIN rule they have to edit nearly all the tracks if it's a dance record on CD to fit enoug tracks onto it. What many labels such as Nebula often do is stick the Radio Edit of the original and put 2 remixes on. I've no idea why, maybe they think there's more demand to hear remixes?

I've not bought any UK release CD's in a long time because �4 (which they usually are) is a hell of a lot of money to pay for something with only 3 tracks usually. I remember the good old days when you used to get 5 or 6 tracks on a CD and full 12" mixes but even then they had a 40 minute rule.

When they say that MP3's are killing the music industry, CIN should sit and have a good think about what they are doing because the 20 minute rule is going to do nothing but persuade people to download MP3's instead of wasting their money on a CD with 3 tracks on it.

Good Point.

Mystery, alot of the time i order my cd's off the net and cant few the tracklist!

Neilson, where u get all them imports from?

Posted by DJ Dowlz on Sep-22-2002 17:36:

OMG that English 20min single rule is incredibly stupid. You pay a fairly decent amount of money for one song and then they edit all the mixes! And you don't even get the original! That just doesn't make sense, especially if you're a DJ.

Posted by trancaholic on Sep-22-2002 18:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
i totally understand u DJ NEILSON, i do try and get maxi's, most of my cd's are bought online, but where imports all the foreign maxi's?

sites i use are

www.hmv.co.uk
www.amazon.co.uk
www.recordstore.co.uk

normally i get imports from them, but sometimes u just dont no!

Try www.cdzone.co.uk - they usually state whether the CDs are imports or not. Unfortunately they do not stock, so items are sometimes unavailable although the site doesn't say so.

Posted by Coup on Sep-23-2002 06:26:

quote:
Originally posted by trancaholic
Try www.cdzone.co.uk - they usually state whether the CDs are imports or not. Unfortunately they do not stock, so items are sometimes unavailable although the site doesn't say so.

ive ued cdzone before, ive found them unrelieble, very slow and un-helpful, and half the things u order as u say u never see them

thanks anyway

Posted by aloep on Sep-23-2002 10:14:

Yeah, I tried CDzone once and after I had completed my order I got message telling me my goods will be with me in a minimum of 30 days which is way too long for me. I only ever received one of the CD's after about 6 weeks and never got the other two even though it claimed they were available.

I find Amazon.co.uk quite good at least for older CD's as it tells you what's in stock and what isn't and the length of time they estimate it will take too despatch them.

Posted by dj_cuba on Sep-23-2002 13:04:

Ive just brought five cds today..

Solar Stone-7 cities (new version)
Solid Sessions-janerio
Jurgen Vries-The theme
QED-Hardly a day
Lee Haslam-Music is the drug

..and only 1 of them included an original mix! I also collect cd singles and I know the faustration your going through. I get a lot more imports now cuz they always have about 7 mixes on. Including the fucking original!