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Posted by Lira on Sep-22-2002 02:56:

A SERIOUS question about porn stars

Yesterday, at a party, a friend of mine came up with a very tricky question:

"Some porn stars are gorgeous. They could earn almost the same amount of money doing something less dirty, as being a model or a flight attender, for example, instead of being fucked in every possible way infront of many other people and being aware that the reputation will never be the same afterwards (porn stars hardly get a decent marriage - would you marry some one!?). Why do they choose this career?"

It was so unexpected (and weird) that I couldn't find an answer... and I still don't know what to say. What you guys think about this porn star thing?


Posted by Nadi on Sep-22-2002 03:02:

You don't need to look hot to be a flight attendant. By stars I'm sure you mean like the ones who's names u know, not the random ones. Someone in my moms social work classes actually wrote an essay on that. Basically they do it because it requires less work than normal modeling, they enjoy being on camera, there going to go and fuck there brains out anyways and it pays a lot of money.


Posted by Coup on Sep-22-2002 03:03:

simple answer really, is someone loves sex, and they also need money, get paid...for having sex? lol!

Back to the old saying that as long as youre happy thats all that counts so if someone enjoys sex that much they can get a job being paid for doing something they love, simple!


Posted by trancendental on Sep-22-2002 03:04:

Re: A SERIOUS question about porn stars

quote:
Originally posted by Maaz
Yesterday, at a party, a friend of mine came up with a very tricky question:

"Some porn stars are gorgeous. They could earn almost the same amount of money doing something less dirty, as being a model or a flight attender, for example, instead of being fucked in every possible way infront of many other people and being aware that the reputation will never be the same afterwards (porn stars hardly get a decent marriage - would you marry some one!?). Why do they choose this career?"

It was so unexpected (and weird) that I couldn't find an answer... and I still don't know what to say. What you guys think about this porn star thing?


(In most cases) You either fall into two catagories: TRIOLISM or VOYEURISM. For the pornstars they're the prior.

Or the thought of have sex and getting paid for it

Damn I'm jealous but I won't do it


Posted by IronDragon on Sep-22-2002 03:09:

Well,

First of all, the top of the top porn stars (Janine, Chasey Lain, Houston, Jenna Jameson, Dasha, Jenteal, etc.) are making a great deal of money, my guess is that they are all well into quarter-half a million a year (far more than they could make if they were flight attendants, waitresses, etc.)

As for those who aren't making much more money I suppose it's because
1) Sex feels good and who doesn't want to be paid for something that feels good.
2) Lying on your back, getting on all fours, whatever position is in vogue nowadays, doesn't take any training per se really (compared any other jobs).
3) Some people just don't like using their minds a lot and being a porn star really isn't such a cerebral job.


Posted by Damo on Sep-22-2002 03:18:

some people don't care how others view them morally... and some people have no living family members ... aheh...

would YOU star in a porno if they paid you decent coin to bang some broads?

i wouldn't... but that's only because i follow some wacked honor system that's pretty much irrelevant to anything but me...


Posted by Nadi on Sep-22-2002 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Damo
some people don't care how others view them morally... and some people have no living family members ... aheh...

would YOU star in a porno if they paid you decent coin to bang some broads?

i wouldn't... but that's only because i follow some wacked honor system that's pretty much irrelevant to anything but me...


Yea I dont see anything morally wrong with it, and if I can fuck some hot broads instead of trying to pick em up so much the better :P If anyone saw me on the street and asked me about it I might feel kind of weird, but I dont see anything wrong with it from a moral standpoint.


Posted by rupert on Sep-22-2002 05:18:

people should never make judgements or moral assumptions about someone because of their occupations.

Many (not all)people in the sex industry, sex workers, porn actors etc are from poor backgrounds. Many are from Eastern Europe.

Many (not all) also have low self esteem because of the generally poor way societies(yes, even western ones) treat women.

You do what you have to do to get along, support yourself and your family etc.

If something is worth doing, its worth doing for money.


Posted by Arbiter on Sep-22-2002 06:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
simple answer really, is someone loves sex, and they also need money, get paid...for having sex? lol!

Back to the old saying that as long as youre happy thats all that counts so if someone enjoys sex that much they can get a job being paid for doing something they love, simple!



This is precisely the impression I got from the few times I've met porn actors/actresses.

The money is very good and they enjoy the work. Referring to Maaz's original comment about their reputations - it goes both ways, because some people (including myself) have good impressions about porn stars - they obviously have an open mind at least.

Cheers,

Arbiter


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Sep-22-2002 07:47:

coup has nailed it

i dont think that it's because they're poor or exploited or have low self-esteem, altho i think in sum cases that mite be true

ultimately it comes down to them enjoying sex on a well-paying job


Posted by evil_bastard on Sep-22-2002 13:15:

My mate was seeing a topless dancer (not quite porn, but still) and she was a reet slapper. He didn't mind what she was doing, until he found out he was one of about five "boyfriends" that she had

She was very stupid and had no qualifications (like my mate!) I can't imagine she'd have got a job anywhere else, unless she was sweeping the streets or cleaning some toilets or something. OK she was good looking, but so are millions of people. They don't all become flight attendants or whatever because those jobs require a little more than looks (even if looks are important for the job). There are loads of gorgeous women doing low-paid mundane jobs - I'm sure amatuer pornstars get paid more. There's one reason.


Posted by netw3rkd on Sep-22-2002 15:25:

Mmmmmmmm......porn.


Posted by Linx_da_cat on Sep-22-2002 15:44:

quote:
Originally posted by AnotherWay83
coup has nailed it

i dont think that it's because they're poor or exploited or have low self-esteem, altho i think in sum cases that mite be true

ultimately it comes down to them enjoying sex on a well-paying job


yeah. exactly. i was watching this show about pornstars and marriage and shit and surprisingly quite a number of them are married to other stars.

it's like hollywood and how all the stars are dating/married to one another. same goes for pornstars i guess. *shrugs*


Posted by Lira on Sep-22-2002 16:12:

hhmmm... some very interesting point of views here

However, don't you guys think being a porn actor(actrees) is choosing the "easy way" in life, which may be not so satisfying in the future, when you look back in your life and realise you didn't really learn much?


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-22-2002 16:50:

Dunno

I think porn stars are much like prostitutes.
Once the money starts coming in, it's hard to stop.
Some of the 'hookers' here in Toronto are absolutely, drop-dead gorgeous.
I asked myself, "Why would someone as beautiful as they are be in this line of work?" Then I thought, "Where else they going to make the kind of $$ they're making for the short amount of time that they do work?"
Definately not in this everyday work-a-day-world.
It could be that they either know they won't make it anywhere else or they're trapped by the $$ they're making and mentally excuse themselves from their morals, convincing themselves that they 'love' what they're doing.

Sad reality in either case.


Posted by cHiLD on Sep-22-2002 22:54:

I think most porn stars are just exhibitionists and/or nymphomaniacs.


Posted by cammie on Sep-23-2002 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by cHiLD
I think most porn stars are just exhibitionists and/or nymphomaniacs.


That may be true to some extent, but please don't stereotype everyone in the industry. I have two friends in the adult entertainment industry. One friend started as a fluffer and now works full time. She hasn�t really made any major films but works about 30 weeks a year, each production takes about a week or so to shoot and she is paid $2,000-$2,500USD per production. She has told me that she treats it like any other type of job: get up�go to work�do the job�go home.
The other started in softcore, photos mostly, then worked into more hardcore films. She had told me that she decided, since the mainstream movie business was too difficult to get into, and she wanted to work in films, that porn was the way to get noticed. I understand that she enjoys the work and doesn�t feel that she is jeopardizing her career in �legitimate� acting by working in porn.
So both of them are satisifed with the work they are doing. That's more than many people in the world today who complain about their jobs.


Posted by Durafei on Sep-23-2002 02:31:

The reason why gorgeous porn-stars remain porn stars, is because they've got a bad reputation.
No modelling agency would hire a model who was a porn star. I actually read an interview with one such *star*, who said that she wanted to quit porn and go into hollywood, but nobody wanted her in hollywood because of her past.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Sep-23-2002 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
The reason why gorgeous porn-stars remain porn stars, is because they've got a bad reputation.
No modelling agency would hire a model who was a porn star. I actually read an interview with one such *star*, who said that she wanted to quit porn and go into hollywood, but nobody wanted her in hollywood because of her past.


That can't be too true.
What about Gillian Anderson, David Duchevny and Traci Lords then?


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Sep-23-2002 06:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r


That can't be too true.
What about Gillian Anderson, David Duchevny and Traci Lords then?


i couldn't find anything anywhere mentioning gillian anderson's role in any porn flick ("The Turning" doesn't really count)


Posted by bluE_Neon on Sep-23-2002 15:07:

Coup and Fir3start3r are practically right...the way i see this, is a gorgoues women who sells her body for a living has no respect for herself making porn, sure its easy and fast paying, but its not the way to go. everything will stay with you, the society you will live in will reflect on you and your friends. yes your reputation will be drown down quickly...


Posted by SpykeChyld on Sep-23-2002 16:17:

See, I guess this is where I need morals! lol. I would have no problem at all with this. I mean, you get to bang the hell out of alot of hot broads, you know it's safe, there is no attachment and you GET PAID! Holy Hell! I may have just found my profession! lol.

I mean, I see exactly why they do it, it's kind of a no-brainer. When you look past what YOU think of as right and wrong there are alot of things in this world that begin to make sense.

If someone was to approach me on the street about it my response would probally be "Yeah, and damn was she good" or "Yeah, you should have seen what happened later that night!"

When you start talking about people with different moral values than yourself you have to adjust your point of veiw.


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-23-2002 19:55:

ok just from what i know... first off it isn't easy to become a REAL pornstar. of course nowadays there are millions of ameuters out there, but to actually become a mainstream pornstar is quite difficult, especially for men. the process is basically this... most of the girls start out as strippers, get approached for greater opportunities and then accept and interview i.e. fuck a lot hehehe. there are certain qualities that the girls need to possess in order to appeal to the different audiences which i won't get into, but its more then just laying on your back. i'm not saying that its hard work once your in the rolls, but until that... its not like your neighbor can just say one day i want to make porn and there she is on the cover of smut.

as far as the moral implications. i don't know i'm not a big religious person, but i guess if thats your thing then, THERE GOIN' TO HELL hehe. when it comes down to it i don't care one way or the other, it doesn't effect me one way or the other.

PS. i know a guy who works for vivid videos so what i'm saying isn't complete rubbish


Posted by Arbiter on Sep-23-2002 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by SpykeChyld
See, I guess this is where I need morals!


The moral aspect is irrelevant. There are millions upon millions of people just like you who have no moral objection to what they are doing. People who say they have ruined their reputation are silly, because the only people who will look down upon former porn stars are the closed-minded people whose opinions aren't worth five cents anyway. It wont adversely affect their future lives - it will just force them to associate with people who see nothing wrong with what they have done (and such people are much more enjoyable to associate with anyway).

Cheers,

Arbiter


Posted by JM on Sep-24-2002 03:38:

nah porn stars are cool. i would marry a porn star.

on second thought, i wouldnt.

dirty dirty dirty.

>JM<



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