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Quivver selling out?!

dear god. what in holy fuck is this shit?!

this cannot be happening to one of the most talented and repected producers in our field.

to insult to injury, it's one of the worst commercial tunes i've ever heard. whilste and all!!

*proceed with caution*

HOW DARE THE HOUSE PRODUCER PRODUCE HOUSE MUSIC.

etc.

Ain't got shit on DJ Alligator. Poor whistlesmanship, I didn't really feel like she put her soul into the whistle.

house music? are you on crack?!

blow ma whistle bitch!!!

but seriously, this is bad. and not just bad music. a bad precedent, what next? quivver would have been the last to have sold his soul i'd have thought...

blackhole enterprises must have wafted that cash in boom Q's face. bloody parasites.

why tarnish quivver? his name doesn't mean jack shit to the commercial crowd - and the tune itself is a turd - anyone could have made it. so, what is the logic here?!

I'm kind of surprised this didn't happen earlier. Not sure why he doesn't use his real name though.


Sticking to his old style = Any cash?...Negative.

the whole idea of "selling out" is so odd to me, like everybody has to do something for work. And for all you know this is what he's wanted to do all along, maybe he was actually selling out with the dark prog when there was an audience for it. Would you feel better if he quit music and got a job at an insurance company? How is that any different? I just don't get it. Generally the people who complain about their favorite bands or artists selling out work for fucking walmart

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Originally posted by meriter

I really don't blame him at all, if anyone deserves it, it's him. He's been in the game for a long time.

selling out is pandering to the masses - compromising (usually severely) on artistic integrity and creativity in exchange for that almighty dollar.

you probably don't have a good concept of it, as it is the american way, so i will forgive you.

wtf'd at "DJ SANDRA COLLINS" jail pic in the intro

He can sell out all he wants to, he will never get big with this shit because you can get a young hip kid that's infinitely more marketable than some old fart to produce the exact same drivel. Seriously, this thing isn't even going to make any money. Even Tiesto and Guetta only get away with marketing to college bros because they've been doing junk for so long.

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Originally posted by rubez selling out is pandering to the masses - compromising (usually severely) on artistic integrity and creativity in exchange for that almighty dollar. you probably don't have a good concept of it, as it is the american way, so i will forgive you.

You are basing this on the assumption that he is not enjoying what he's doing, just because you don't like it. Get out of your own head. Sometimes people have broad tastes, like maybe he didn't want to write the same track for 20 years? I like swedish math metal, I also like the gayest house music imaginable. Very different ends of the spectrum. It's not selling out if you want to do more than one thing. And for all you know he's keeping it real under a different name (which you've never heard cause no one cares). The name is whats slapped on this product, i wouldnt be surprised if he had nothing to do with the production at all and just got paid to show up and douche out on video. Really the whole artistic integrity thing... are you in high school? Talk to me about not understanding how things work, what an ass. And just cause I live in america too. I'd love to see how your idea of artistic integrity holds up in the face of raising a child, or any of the other very real things that cost very real money. Trust me just cause I live in america doesn't mean I don't have a grasp of the natural world. My dream job would be to bang chicks all day but they aren't handing out those types of gigs.

Of course he might've just wanted a new car

Another thing... artists only have so much steam. Like a person only has so much to say. Are you implying he hasn't paid his dues? You want the same prog track over and over again forever? I agree the song is bullshit but everyone has to do something awful for money unless you are extremely lucky. And it's never the responsibility of the artist to appease their fans, ever.

Quivver has earned his stripes in the industry as one of the most talented producers ever. He has nothing left to prove. Whatever he does from here on out should have no affect on his legacy.

trust me, john graham isn't proud of this type of music... otherwise he'd be doing it fulltime, and earning lots more money.

he essentially whored out his name. the production is nothing a ton of no-namers could have come up with, for a lot less pay. (genre limitation, not his own)

so he has been paid for this PR boost for blackhole, and they teamed him up with some wannabe pop star vocalist.

a lot of artists give out tracks to their fans for free, out of love - essentially working pro bono - this was not one of them.

this is a stain.

no disrespect to quivver, as he has definitely earned his stripes, and i don't know his reasons. but as a fan, this is disappointing.

Nobody knows, or cares, who Quivver is at this point.

Rubez, you're alright, but these constant threads ain't cool. Quivver isn't either.

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Originally posted by enydo Nobody knows, or cares, who Quivver is at this point.

I saw him live this past january and he played awful 2009ish tech house. Just brutal.

Quivver is such garbage now. Bar the odd track/remix on Bedrock or Microcastle (who knows if he even makes tracks for them anymore), his output is just painfully bad, as are his DJ sets.

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Originally posted by lacedpills Quivver has earned his stripes in the industry as one of the most talented producers ever. He has nothing left to prove. Whatever he does from here on out should have no affect on his legacy.

I find this kind of attitude very disturbing. It's hurting dance music in general. I like to think of it more as "what have you done for me lately" and in Quivver's case it's fuck all.

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Originally posted by rubez trust me, john graham isn't proud of this type of music... otherwise he'd be doing it fulltime, and earning lots more money.

I wouldn't say that is a fair assessment. Do you know exactly whats going on in his mind? I would definitely say he missed the mark on this track cheese or not, maybe next time...

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Originally posted by Adam420 I find this kind of attitude very disturbing. It's hurting dance music in general. I like to think of it more as "what have you done for me lately" and in Quivver's case it's fuck all.

I find it pretty disturbing you take one of the biggest trolls TA has ever had seriously after so long. DJ-wise Quivver has been really shit for years and years now.

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Originally posted by Adam420 I find this kind of attitude very disturbing. It's hurting dance music in general. I like to think of it more as "what have you done for me lately" and in Quivver's case it's fuck all.

it's not hurting jack squat. he's been in the game for 20+ years and he's produced stuff from drum n bass to progressive house to breaks etc. what more is he supposed to fucking do?

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Originally posted by MSZ DJ-wise Quivver has been really shit for years and years now.

is this why you didn't show up to the show like you said you were? what a backstabber.

I wouldn't pay good money to see Quivver play inane tech-house lol. Trolled.

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Originally posted by MSZ I find it pretty disturbing you take one of the biggest trolls TA has ever had seriously after so long. DJ-wise Quivver has been really shit for years and years now.

IDK I don't tend to stay current on who's a troll and who isn't and what people's reputation on TA is. Isn't it Mattinsanity? I think we already established that he is not a troll, he's just kind of plain dumb.

Lol?

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