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Question on genres
Hey new to trance addict, figured this was the place to ask, I dj in a medium sized town in Illinois and havent got to club level yet but I do alot of house parties, my problem is EVERYONE here is obsessed with dub/trap and I play prog trance, prog house, so when I do parties people are a bit disappointed what should I do? because I want to maintain my style.
Thanks
play/meet people in chicago
Good suggestion when I can commute there but atm I have to try and make it work here.
Keep at it and try to convert them, or go out and meet like minded people.
Trance is never going to go down well with the (C)trap crowd, but you may have more luck with dirty, jacking prog. Oh, and one thing to know, play music that ladies like, don't play for the bros: Ladies dancing = dudes interested too.
I would try to find any local events, clubs or bars that play close to what you play. If you're too young for clubs/bars, you are a little fucked unless you find some other younger peeps that dig yo' groove.
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| Originally posted by DJ RANN Oh, and one thing to know, play music that ladies like, don't play for the bros: Ladies dancing = dudes interested too. |
That isn't quite always true.
djs that think people like shit just have too small of a vocabulary. I mean you will really have to be in a fucked up place if BIG's hits don't go down well.
The rule of djing is that you know enough music that you can play what they like without compromising. And what they like is what the hot girls like. Unless you are playing in a gay club. Then the music really doesn't matter. i mean stereo plays that house that sounds like an 8 hour track and they just dance like happy gay gorillas knowing that in 4 hours, they are going to have a crazy meth fuelled sex party. I go for the fruit platters.
So 8 bears on a plate?
The only DJs who dont have to play to the crowd are successful producers. They play for the crowd not to it. And they have a following.
Most djs cave to the crowd. I did. Yeah I make great money but I dont always play music i love. At best i incorporate a few of my fav tracks a night.
Big djs dont cave to the crowd. They play what they love and if they cant they keep pushing on. They find their niche. They produce their own music. They love their m sic they believe in it. They usually succeed in the long run. Might not make a lot of money. Might maje millions.
Just dont turn into a bedroom dj hermit lol
disagree. Good djs can do both. They have a large enough vocabulary that they can play music they enjoy and know the crowd will like as well. A good dj doesn't compromise on that, they just like alot of music , and know what works , when it works and are able to use that knowledge to both play things that are safe but allow a certain wiggle room to also add some things they might not think they would enjoy but because you know what you are doing, they do.
the djs that stick to their guns should not be playing gigs were that would make people not want to dance. Simple as that. I personally feel that those djs just have this tunnel vision and are obsessed about a certain scene, and not really someone that loves music. And they tend to be very limited and not very versatile. Really, i think they are the ones that don't understand the whole point of a dj. If you accept that you aren't an act that plays their music and you are a dj, and you don't realize that your goal is not to express your taste in music at the cost of people having fun, just stop djing.
See I have been going the route said where I am almost trying to educate the crowd here by kind of bringing them into it with the big hits of trance/ prog house and the top 40 remixes, and then dub/trap has such deep drops and elements of complextro so I try playing alot of the like except with the 4/4 it's just people are sooo fucking close minded, you get a crowd of people the love trap/dub thats ALL they want to hear. I cant speak for other fans of trance and house but im pretty fucking open minded. I dont necessarily like trap or dub but if I go see a dj who does that style I dont go up to the booth and say "come on bro play some 4/4, fuck this shit", If the dj is doing a good job I just enjoy their style and mixing ability. It seems people do not understand, an unhappy dj means an unhappy crowd
how are you educating ? is there a banner with the track playing ? A dj does many things, part of it is to disseminate new music and parse the good from the bad and present that to a public. the idea of educating a crowd is so fucking pretentious. If you think your job is to educate, you are just justifying your personal taste and the lack of interest a problem with the audience , not you.
Those that say , well all they want is pop, well then realize that you are the wrong person for the job.
You take the term educate like people think of themselves as fucking instructors and yea that would be pretty narcissistic, when I say educate its like I have been at clubs and heard all the same shit then the dj will drop a track that maybe is completely out of my genre preference or not, and I will fucking love it and look for the song when I get home and find similar artist or other work by that artist. The first time I heard trance or house it was during dj sets and it opened me up to this whole world, so in a way it educated me, thats what i mean by saying that. The people in my town that like "EDM" dont even know who tiesto is so why not try and give them a taste of it? You make it sound like a dj cant even have a type of music he likes and if thats fact then whats the point of even having djs, why not get a stupid digital jukebox like the bars? Of course you have to play to the crowd but your add your flavor and spin on it.
You should play more Bar Mitzvahs.
Hell yeah mazel tov
hi daski, ive read what u have to say, i think u should follow ur heart and get into the style that u love.. i know u can feel it.. on the other hand, i think u shouldnt play to please peoples desires.. follow your heart and keep at it. 
and do it at home.
you could incorperate Trance/Prog Trance with Dub/Trap. The Prog or the trap or dub needs to be either slowed down or sped up but it could be done.
sorry for spell check. Incorporate lol
Yeah it can be frustrating. Playing to a crowd that doesn't love the music you do - who, maybe, hasn't had that aha moment that you did that introduced you to a whole new genre of music. There's a number of things you could do:
1. Just play what they want and keep them happy. This will probably make you miserable and you'll start to hate DJing.
2. Find some common ground. If your taste is broad enough, play music in the space where your taste and their taste overlaps. Find some really cool remixes of top 40 songs that you won't cringe at. Toolroom Records releases a lot of great mixes of well-known songs. Drop in something different occasionally to test the crowd - this is where experience helps a lot.
3. Start your own trance night. Find people in your area with similar taste - use message boards like this. Get them to spread the word among their trance buddies. Start small with a one-off and go from there.
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| [i][b]Unless you are playing in a gay club. Then the music really doesn't matter. i mean stereo plays that house that sounds like an 8 hour track and they just dance like happy gay gorillas knowing that in 4 hours, they are going to have a crazy meth fuelled sex party. I go for the fruit platters. |
i dont see the problem with music that sounds the same for 8 hours straight. actually i like that. puts me into a trance. yes i said it, trance as a description of a state of mind rather than a cheezy fucked up genre of rainbows farts and starships.
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