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Posted by DJ_Lord on Jul-29-2013 17:32:

Controlling Traktor using Allen & Heath xone 92 mixer

Hi guys,

So, I know it can be done using HID Mode on a djm 850, 900 and 2k but is there a way to control Traktor using just your laptop and a xone 92?

if any of u can help out, i'd appreciate it.

thanks,
jon


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-29-2013 19:33:

i really dont know but since xone 92 pretty much is made for this type of use id start with reading the manual of xone 92 and traktor. then google is your friend - it will lead you to forums discussing this.

heres one: http://www.native-instruments.com/f...ad.php?t=166237


Posted by Adam420 on Jul-29-2013 22:50:

no, it's not possible as the mixer does not have a digital interface (unless they added one for newer models but I don't think so). And thank God for that, if I may say so.


Posted by DJ_Lord on Jul-30-2013 19:06:

it seems it can be done with an xone 92, according to the post clay made over at the NI forums. it just won't show on traktor.

in any case, the only reason why im asking is bc the setting at the venue where i'll be at is like that so i need to adapt, otherwise i can't play.

does the mixer needs to be connected via usb to the mac or not?


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-31-2013 15:20:

again i really do not know but im positive it needs to be connected via usb, so that u use the xone92s soundcard (if i remember it has inbuild soundcard). then you must "loop" the soundcard outputs into separate channel inputs using RCA, and then map midi somehow in traktor. read the manual basically.

edit: wait a second. does it even have USB? i might mix up with xone 2d/1d - the midicontrollers. what you are trying to do probably wont work without a dedicated midicontroller after all. i thought 92 had that, but doesnt seem so.


Posted by djdk on Jul-31-2013 16:12:

It only has MIDI, and that only sends a few controls from the mixer so whilst you can kind of do some control essentially the answer to your questions is no.


Posted by DJ_Lord on Jul-31-2013 16:30:

quote:
Originally posted by djdk
It only has MIDI, and that only sends a few controls from the mixer so whilst you can kind of do some control essentially the answer to your questions is no.


for this particular situation i'd only need the knobs and volume so that i can mix in and out of tracks. just basic mixing.

so my question is, when i connect it via midi what features does it include? and how exactly do u connect the mixer via midi to the mac?

sorry for the noob questions...


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-31-2013 17:14:

its not a noob question actually, i really thought it had USB but it doesnt, it only has oldschool midi output (5pin). sux. this can be connected to your PC via a USB-midi-device or a dedicated USB soundcard with MIDI included (most have that). Maybe the traktor soundcard have MIDI 5pin input? I dont know, if not you need a midicard. This is getting quite a stupid setup though, id just get a proper midicontroller instead like Xone 1d/2d or maybe one of the other traktor devices listen on their website. the midi in 92 seems really limited and oldschool probably just to control a simple hardware filter or delay wet/dry knob (or other efex). Not for traktor.


Posted by DJ_Lord on Aug-01-2013 04:03:

thanks clay, i was thinking about this... i have traktor pro 2, is it possible for a set up like this one to work properly:

2 x cdjs 2k
1 a&h xone92
1 x1
1 x audio 8

what do u guys think?


Posted by Juan Paulino on Aug-01-2013 07:33:

Get 1200's.

End thread/


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2013 12:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Get 1200's.

End thread/


another stupid post from TAs biggest clown.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2013 12:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Lord
thanks clay, i was thinking about this... i have traktor pro 2, is it possible for a set up like this one to work properly:

2 x cdjs 2k
1 a&h xone92
1 x1
1 x audio 8

what do u guys think?


yes timecode from the cdjs can be used as midicontrollers via the audio 8 inputs i guess, the outputs to the xone mixer, and the usb connected to your computer you should have everything u need. also i see that audio 88 has a 5pin midi input which you can use for a few extra midi-fucntions from the xone midi output (like efex amount). again read the audio 8 manual, it says it all.

i rather just put all my mp3 on two USB-sticks and put on the cdjs instead though, and mix "oldschool"-style without a computer software.

edit: now i recall what mixer i thought about earlier: the xone 4d.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Aug-01-2013 14:27:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
another stupid post from TAs biggest clown.


I have my opinion and i could say whatever I want.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2013 14:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
I have my opinion and i could say whatever I want.


youre the type of idiot i used to smash into the rib-wall in the gym on junior high when the teacher looked somewhere else.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Aug-01-2013 14:52:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
youre the type of idiot i used to smash into the rib-wall in the gym on junior high when the teacher looked somewhere else.


You just called yourself a nerd.

Dozens of people on here would recommend 1200's you newb.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2013 15:04:

if you already have a 1200 then its of course fine to use as timecode source/midi controller, but to be fair it is the most unreliable source of midi-signals ever so if your planning on building up a dj booth from scratch using traktor (scratch, lol - lets see who got it) it makes no sense getting 1200's as it would be the most expensive, the least exact, and least functional midicontroller of all time. all that mechanical machinery just to adjust pitch on a mp3? lol. but yeah if you already have 1200 from vinyl days you might just as well use it in wait of something better. as he can do with his cdj2000 (only a bit more functional). again you dont know fuck about what you talk about.

edit: wait a second, i think i know what you mean. 1200 sounds better right? rofl.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Aug-01-2013 15:06:

Who said anything about timecode?


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2013 15:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Who said anything about timecode?


how else do you plan on using 1200 to control traktor? via telepathy? how much LSD do you plan on taking before each set?


Posted by Juan Paulino on Aug-01-2013 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
how else do you plan on using 1200 to control traktor? via telepathy? how much LSD do you plan on taking before each set?


Why use only traktor when you have 1200's? Uh Hello.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2013 15:11:

how else do you plan to play your mp3 if not via traktor? have you at all read the thread title at hand?

Ill give you a hint:
"Controlling Traktor using Allen & Heath xone 92 mixer"


Posted by Juan Paulino on Aug-01-2013 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
how else do you plan to play your mp3 if not via traktor? have you at all read the thread title at hand?

Ill give you a hint:
"Controlling Traktor using Allen & Heath xone 92 mixer"


Who cares about traktor and MP3's why not use Analog Vinyl too, not at the same time but you could but I don't prefer it lol.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2013 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Who cares about traktor and MP3's why not use Analog Vinyl too, not at the same time but you could but I don't prefer it lol.



you moron. he doesnt have 1200s, he probably doesnt have any vinyl. the topic is how to use traktor (probably with mp3). it is 2013 and vinyl is almost dead - at least very unavailable compared to mp3.

i do agree that mixing with vinyl is funnier though. part of the reason i dropped it all because it was harder and harder to get the music i wanted on vinyl and i couldnt adapt to playing from a computer.

but thats not the topic. the topic is how to control traktor.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Aug-01-2013 15:21:

Um, who cares about controlling traktor? of course he doesn't have 1200's thats why i said to get them idiot. Imo, spin old vinyl its more fun. Basically this is called a hijack you newb.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-01-2013 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Um, who cares about controlling traktor? of course he doesn't have 1200's thats why i said to get them idiot. Imo, spin old vinyl its more fun. Basically this is called a hijack you newb.


controlling traktor is the topic. yes i agree spinning vinyl is more fun. but not the topic. and spinning old vinyl requires being in the game for a while, or coming over a huge garage sale with tons of old vinyl. only then would it make sense to buy 1200s (or 1210s which i have and are lot better than crappy silver gay 1200s). but thats not the topic. controlling traktor is the topic. the topic is controlling traktor. not 1200s. not whats most fun. traktor. controlling. can you read?


Posted by Juan Paulino on Aug-01-2013 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Basically this is called a hijack you newb.




quote:
Originally posted by clay
can you read?

Well I can't


Fixed.


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