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Posted by habsfan on Aug-20-2013 04:16:

Black and Blue 2013 @ Arsenal

Does anyone know what this venue is like? It looks pretty ghetto from Google street view but maybe the interior is nice.

Any news on lineups?


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-20-2013 19:21:

http://arsenalmontreal.com

probably the nicest place you can ever do an event in.

it's usually an art gallery.

they'll be 2 rooms.

line up tba soon.


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-20-2013 20:51:

Full line up to be announced September 3rd... stay tuned !!!


Posted by Spin Laden on Aug-21-2013 01:43:

heard one name so far that's gonna make a lot of people very happy!


Posted by HappyDude72 on Aug-21-2013 04:24:

Of course, the BBCM continues to do its best at killing what was once a great event. We're talking 18,000 people in a single room at its peak.

Let's be honest, the current formula is not working and the attendance numbers have been plummeting from year to year. So the solution according to a press release in the spring was for the Black&Blue to go back to its roots. For the young ones, that meant partnering with NYC's Saint at Large and having a single house room.

Now, months later, they decide "to beat a dead horse" and they will have again 2 rooms: house and trance. Considering the capacity of the Arsenal is at most 4,000 people, that will mean 2,000 people per room. For such a "small" party, i might as well go to Circus or Stereo

Then with Markus Schulz at Stereo and Armin Van Buuren at New City Gas on the same night, why would anyone that likes trance bother with the B&B ?


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Aug-21-2013 05:50:

How many cocks per square meter?


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-21-2013 13:56:

quote:
Originally posted by HappyDude72
Of course, the BBCM continues to do its best at killing what was once a great event. We're talking 18,000 people in a single room at its peak.

Let's be honest, the current formula is not working and the attendance numbers have been plummeting from year to year. So the solution according to a press release in the spring was for the Black&Blue to go back to its roots. For the young ones, that meant partnering with NYC's Saint at Large and having a single house room.

Now, months later, they decide "to beat a dead horse" and they will have again 2 rooms: house and trance. Considering the capacity of the Arsenal is at most 4,000 people, that will mean 2,000 people per room. For such a "small" party, i might as well go to Circus or Stereo

Then with Markus Schulz at Stereo and Armin Van Buuren at New City Gas on the same night, why would anyone that likes trance bother with the B&B ?




stereo is small, already sold out, no impact really. not different from other years.

every house fan will want to be at black & blue this year. i'm not worried.

we can hold up to 6000 people with the configuration we use but we are expecting minimum of 4000 peeps.

going back to its roots is more being less commercial. that was a fail.

and yeah some people might even sell their markus tickets the way the line up is shaping up in the trance room...

but hey same story every year, just copy paste your posts from last years...


Posted by KrinKer on Aug-21-2013 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Fran666
stereo is small, already sold out, no impact really. not different from other years.

every house fan will want to be at black & blue this year. i'm not worried.

we can hold up to 6000 people with the configuration we use but we are expecting minimum of 4000 peeps.

going back to its roots is more being less commercial. that was a fail.

and yeah some people might even sell their markus tickets the way the line up is shaping up in the trance room...

but hey same story every year, just copy paste your posts from last years...


No effense Frank ... but you did say the same thing last year about the line-up ... and it was close to a flop as far as the house room goes !


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-21-2013 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by KrinKer
No effense Frank ... but you did say the same thing last year about the line-up ... and it was close to a flop as far as the house room goes !



3 septembre


Posted by KrinKer on Aug-21-2013 18:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Fran666
3 septembre


i hope to be surprised, but it will take a lot to move my ass to B&B


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-21-2013 18:25:

don't expect carl cox sven vath and all though ... won't happen.

i was actually surprised of a few names on there, one in particular that you'd book only for quality music not to draw a huge crowd. So i think they heard you guys


Posted by KrinKer on Aug-21-2013 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Fran666
don't expect carl cox sven vath and all though ... won't happen.

i was actually surprised of a few names on there, one in particular that you'd book only for quality music not to draw a huge crowd. So i think they heard you guys


I would definetly not expect those two, but I also don'T expect anything in my taste either


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-21-2013 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by KrinKer
I would definetly not expect those two, but I also don'T expect anything in my taste either



what is your taste nowadays ?


Posted by Marcus007 on Aug-21-2013 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
How many cocks per square meter?


24 sq/ft


Posted by Spin Laden on Aug-21-2013 20:13:

from Guy J to Hernan to D Formation, Sasha and Digweed and David Seaman, the music has been great at Black and Blue but the name I heard should bring a lot of househeads back.

As for the trance room, if you guys can get the ppl who can't get Markus tickets and also get those who are coming from Armin at NCG and still want to party. then the other (probably smaller) room just may get filled too.

Plus there's a lot of people that like both house and 'trance'... 5000-6000 is a do-able number, even with NCG and Stereo in the fold. Montreal is still a house city and the booking I heard should appeal to a wide variety of househeads.


Posted by Adam420 on Aug-21-2013 20:15:

So is it Danny T?


Posted by Spin Laden on Aug-21-2013 20:31:

whatever happened to Danny Torrence anyways?


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-21-2013 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Laden
whatever happened to Danny Torrence anyways?



i saw him a couple of times at Kanal Bar this summer. He still does his climaxxx night too at velvet i think now.


Posted by HappyDude72 on Aug-22-2013 04:08:

I actually like to write new posts, even if I seem to repeat myself... Now your (Fran666) posts seem to be a copy and paste of previous years. :P
Always the promise of an amazing lineup and then the big let down.
Last year seemed to be particularly bad, to the point many on the BBCM were ready to jump ship... Now does that inspire confidence on the event ?

P.S. I have to ask, with the legal capacity mentioned on this page, how will you manage to have a single room with 6000 capacity ?
http://arsenalmontreal.com/en/price-list
I come up with 2900 people


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-22-2013 11:49:

quote:
Originally posted by HappyDude72
I actually like to write new posts, even if I seem to repeat myself... Now your (Fran666) posts seem to be a copy and paste of previous years. :P
Always the promise of an amazing lineup and then the big let down.
Last year seemed to be particularly bad, to the point many on the BBCM were ready to jump ship... Now does that inspire confidence on the event ?

P.S. I have to ask, with the legal capacity mentioned on this page, how will you manage to have a single room with 6000 capacity ?
http://arsenalmontreal.com/en/price-list
I come up with 2900 people


where did i mention a single room of 6000 peeps.... we are using a different configuration than the art gallery. again you prove you know nothing.

you are just looking for reasons to bash this. anything i'll say you'll turn it around.

why ?


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Aug-22-2013 12:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
24 sq/ft


needs more cocks.


Posted by AY STAR on Aug-22-2013 13:50:

i went in 2011 and i had a great time
the venue was a lil downgrade from the other venue (palese de congres?)
but overall the music was great and the crowd was chill

i kinda like what they are doing. sometimes less is more
kinda starting fresh again
curious to see how the line-up shapes up

and yea i agree with other people, trance wise you will def take a hit from armin and markus
the house/prog/techno room will def be the place to be


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-22-2013 14:03:

Spectacles:

● CIRQUE �LOIZE
http://www.cirque-eloize.com/

● Dominic Lacasse (L'Homme Drapeau) + groupe d'acrobates
http://www.dominiclacasse.com/

● Mega Show Priape + The Saint at Large (New York)

● 40 Artistes peintres internationaux / 40 murales en direct

et plus !!!



Facebook Event


Posted by Spin Laden on Aug-22-2013 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Fran666
i saw him a couple of times at Kanal Bar this summer. He still does his climaxxx night too at velvet i think now.


bit Torrence now? jk


Posted by Fran666 on Aug-22-2013 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Spin Laden
bit Torrence now? jk




you spend too much time in gay carwashes lol


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