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Posted by Tyler James on Oct-03-2013 06:16:

Getting recognized?

How the hell is someone supposed to get recognized today? I understand it takes time and effort, but that's pretty much all I know. I make music, I put it up in places, I'm pretty active, and I participate. What else is there? I can't DJ my shit (not that I would want to), and I can't make super mainstream shit (because it's against my morals and standards). Do I have to do either of those?

Also, I don't want to mess with beatport right now. It seems stupid.


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-03-2013 07:03:

I realise that this is entirely subjective, but is your music good?

Right now, in time, doesn't differ much from any other point in time - Good musicians will make good music, shit musicians will make shit music. I fall into the latter category, and gave up producing a long time ago

What has made it really tough, especially for electronic music producers, is the accessibility of the tools you need to make music. In the 90s (perhaps the peak of electronic music) you had to be pretty dedicated. Drop a couple of grand $$$ minimum on some decent gear, and learn to use it all.

Powerful computers, and more importantly, powerful software that can be easily pirated, changed all that. Anyone can have a go at it now, you don't need the money, just a good computer.

There's still loads of good music being created, it just takes waaaaay longer to sift through it all, so it's more difficult to get "recognized" as you put it.

Lots of other bits and pieces to add to it all... it's a huge scene now.

Long post, lol. Not even sorry that I've been drinking


Posted by Sykonee on Oct-03-2013 07:14:

Marketing. Always marketing.

If you want to get noticed, hire an agent to drum up fake hype for your stuff. Yes, I'm totally serious about this.

If you'd prefer keepin' it realz, y0', then maybe you'll be lucky enough to get noticed by some blogger or webforum. Getting signed and promoted by a label certainly helps though (again, marketing).


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-03-2013 07:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
Marketing. Always marketing.

If you want to get noticed, hire an agent to drum up fake hype for your stuff. Yes, I'm totally serious about this.

If you'd prefer keepin' it realz, y0', then maybe you'll be lucky enough to get noticed by some blogger or webforum. Getting signed and promoted by a label certainly helps though (again, marketing).


You're right, I guess, and you probably answered his question better than my rant.

It just makes me sad that you're right


Posted by Tyler James on Oct-03-2013 07:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
I realise that this is entirely subjective, but is your music good?

I do think my music isn't as bad as others, but I honestly don't know what everyone wants so it's kind of hard to make music that sounds good for everyone.

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
Marketing. Always marketing.
If you want to get noticed, hire an agent to drum up fake hype for your stuff. Yes, I'm totally serious about this.
If you'd prefer keepin' it realz, y0', then maybe you'll be lucky enough to get noticed by some blogger or webforum. Getting signed and promoted by a label certainly helps though (again, marketing).

I guess, but where do I find an agent and where do I upload it so it has a better chance of getting noticed by a blogger or webforum?


Posted by Sykonee on Oct-03-2013 07:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Tyler James

I guess, but where do I find an agent and where do I upload it so it has a better chance of getting noticed by a blogger or webforum?

Those are questions probably better answered by the denizens of the Producers Sub-Forum here.

Linky.


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-03-2013 07:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Tyler James
I do think my music isn't as bad as others, but I honestly don't know what everyone wants so it's kind of hard to make music that sounds good for everyone.


I really don't mean to discourage you at all, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.

Make music that YOU like, or you're going to end up hating producing music, in general.


Posted by Tyler James on Oct-03-2013 08:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
I really don't mean to discourage you at all, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.

Make music that YOU like, or you're going to end up hating producing music, in general.

Oh no, yeah. I do make music I like. It's just making the music I like that other people will like as well is just hard. You're right though, if I just stop worrying about people liking my music and getting recognized, then I'll start enjoying it more than I do.


Posted by Desiderata on Oct-03-2013 10:11:

Also, not to discourage you even further but making electronic music is so popular right now that it becomes a working man's hobby for the love of his art. Think locally before thinking globally. But I really don't know much about the marketing part.


Posted by meriter on Oct-03-2013 10:12:

Why can't you DJ you own stuff?


Posted by Tyler James on Oct-03-2013 10:28:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Why can't you DJ you own stuff?

I'm not in the financial position in which I can buy the equipment in order to do so. I asked my DJ friends to play my stuff around, but they won't.


Posted by Desiderata on Oct-03-2013 10:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Tyler James
I'm not in the financial position in which I can buy the equipment in order to do so. I asked my DJ friends to play my stuff around, but they won't.


Get new friends


Posted by meriter on Oct-03-2013 10:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Tyler James
I'm not in the financial position in which I can buy the equipment in order to do so.


word I can definitely relate to that


Posted by Tyler James on Oct-03-2013 10:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Desiderata
Get new friends

I could try, I have some pretty good socializing skills. There aren't a lot of local DJs here in Marysville and Everett though. But I can ask around.


Posted by Tyler James on Oct-03-2013 10:35:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
word I can definitely relate to that

It kind of really sucks


Posted by Desiderata on Oct-03-2013 10:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Tyler James
I could try, I have some pretty good socializing skills. There aren't a lot of local DJs here in Marysville and Everett though. But I can ask around.


SO there isn't much room for you to make your own crew? That sucks.


Posted by Tyler James on Oct-03-2013 10:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Desiderata
SO there isn't much room for you to make your own crew?

Exactly, otherwise I'd be in the clubs listening to my friends tear up my songs for everyone to twerk to.


Posted by on Oct-03-2013 11:10:

Wear a giant paper machete animal head with exaggerated ears...


Posted by Desiderata on Oct-03-2013 11:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Jon_Snow
Wear a giant paper machete animal head with exaggerated ears...


Silly Goose, that's not even funny because it's been done and actually worked.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Oct-03-2013 11:42:

How big is the penor?


Posted by Desiderata on Oct-03-2013 11:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
How big is the penor?



Close to 8in.


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Oct-03-2013 12:00:

Mine tastes like Valvoline.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-03-2013 12:37:

Get your music signed to a good label. A successful, well-established and respected label will have the clout and the connections to get your music to DJs who will actually be interested in playing it.


Posted by PivotTechno on Oct-03-2013 12:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
How big is the penor?



Posted by Tyler James on Oct-03-2013 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Get your music signed to a good label. A successful, well-established and respected label will have the clout and the connections to get your music to DJs who will actually be interested in playing it.

Do I just google "Gud Elektro lablz"? Where is the best place to get into contact? So far Soundcloud hasn't helped a lot besides having a few people listen to it.


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