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Posted by Jah on Oct-03-2002 07:24:

critique me!

k ive been spinning about 4 months now heres what most of my mixes sound like... and i have a really shit mixer so the quality is bad sorry but any critque would be much appreciated. How does it sound to you? was your mixing alot better at 4 months? whatever just please make some comments but if you do bag it (and believe me theres lots to bag! ) please suggest some tips on fixing whatevers wrong, if you can. cheers.
(by the way the songs are Signum - Cura Me into Punk)
Jah-transition1


Posted by DJ Dowlz on Oct-03-2002 07:57:

Heya Jah!

Well it seems like a smooth enough transition (only a couple of minor beatmatching mistakes) - how many times did you practice it before finalising the recording? But seriously, it sounds fine to me, but it sounds as though you've made a small mistake in phasing the two songs together. Maybe it's just me, but the melodic entry into punk doesn't seem to flow properly, it seems as though it's out by a bar or beat or something like that.

Mind you at four months, you've done very well to get beatmatching under control - well done!

Just a small question, which I ask everybody who makes a mix, is this done on vinyl or CD?


Posted by Jah on Oct-03-2002 08:06:

hey dj dowlz! thanx for the reply
quote:
many times did you practice it before finalising the recording?

haha actually i recorded myself practicing today and just took the last transition (mainly cause total recorded was fucking up the rest! ) but yeah that was it :P i know what you mean by the melody doesnt seem to flow but im 99.9% sure i had them phrased matched... but i think my volume levels need work (?)
but yeah thats that... was done on vinyl btw...
and a 200 dollar mtx mixer the bass was clashing a bit too i felt


Posted by DJ Dowlz on Oct-03-2002 08:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Jah
hey dj dowlz! thanx for the reply

haha actually i recorded myself practicing today and just took the last transition (mainly cause total recorded was fucking up the rest! ) but yeah that was it :P i know what you mean by the melody doesnt seem to flow but im 99.9% sure i had them phrased matched... but i think my volume levels need work (?)
but yeah thats that... was done on vinyl btw...
and a 200 dollar mtx mixer the bass was clashing a bit too i felt


Yah, I think they're phrased matched, but the entry of the highhat isn't in a normal 16 (or 32) bar sequence.
0:31 is the end of a sequence. You throw the highat in 8 bars later, which is why it doesn't sound as good as it possibly could.

Don't worry about the crap mixer. If you learn on a crappy mixer it'll make a better DJ I guess.


Posted by migitymike on Oct-03-2002 08:45:

umm..
play with your eqs a bit more..ur gonna have to keep the bass low..esp on the intro to punk..it doesnt mesh well with most records.
its sounds like u qued it in..8 counts to late..or 8 counts to early..either way u wanna put it.
and try to match your highs..not your bass so much.and if there is no highs..imagine them..other than that
sounds great for 4 months
download my mix..
im only at a year


Posted by Jah on Oct-03-2002 08:51:

thanx heaps for the feedback mike
quote:
and try to match your highs..not your bass so much

ahhh i get this alot im having a bit of trouble doin it i dunno its just i guess with the bass its easy to hear if its out cause of the galloping... when the highs are out... i cant tell... yet btw ive been practicing single ear monitoring like you said lots and actually its pretty cool that mix was done with it...


Posted by DJ Dowlz on Oct-03-2002 09:44:

I find beatmatching listening to the bassline the easiest, but once I've got it fairly refined, I use the high hats to make minor corrections. When it goes live, I'm listening to the high hats, cause that'll be out of sync before the bass does.


Posted by Jah on Oct-03-2002 10:37:

oh... i really need to
get this high hat matching down pat


Posted by DJ Dowlz on Oct-03-2002 11:07:

If you're finding it hard to get the high hats in sync, try increasing the treble EQ range.

Is it true that putting two songs absolutely in sync actually stuffs up the mix? Somebody said something about the highhats adding to make this terrible noise, or something along those lines.


Posted by Jah on Oct-04-2002 02:14:

phasing?


Posted by Kid Lax on Oct-04-2002 02:28:

for 4 months that's a great mix

beatmatching is a touch off at one point but you wouldn't hear that on a loud system anyways

but i think you should try to eliminate that "deadair" time in your mix...
like when its just a kickdrum and cymbols and that's when you mix...i personally hate when dj's mix like that...
it completely ruins the energy in the room
i notice a lot of dj's mix like that live and it pisses me off
i try not to ever have just a kickdrum/cymbols at any time during a set...sometimes its inavoidable but i think it keeps the set flowing nicer

its called a safety mix for a reason


Posted by DJ Dowlz on Oct-04-2002 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Kid Lax
for 4 months that's a great mix

beatmatching is a touch off at one point but you wouldn't hear that on a loud system anyways

but i think you should try to eliminate that "deadair" time in your mix...
like when its just a kickdrum and cymbols and that's when you mix...i personally hate when dj's mix like that...
it completely ruins the energy in the room
i notice a lot of dj's mix like that live and it pisses me off
i try not to ever have just a kickdrum/cymbols at any time during a set...sometimes its inavoidable but i think it keeps the set flowing nicer

its called a safety mix for a reason


I know exactly what you're talking about. Making your mixes right at the end of the song when there is absolutely no melody and all you've got is the bass line of both pieces. It's not technically difficult, because you don't really have to eliminiate many EQ ranges, but IMO it is really boring to dance and listen to. Actually, if the DJ does this live, I usually just stand around for a while waiting for the melody to come back.


Posted by migitymike on Oct-05-2002 08:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Dowlz
I find beatmatching listening to the bassline the easiest, but once I've got it fairly refined, I use the high hats to make minor corrections. When it goes live, I'm listening to the high hats, cause that'll be out of sync before the bass does.

yeah but if this guy ever plans on playing out..he needs to have the highs on..and if the bass are off a little..u cant hear it on a larger system..it just sounds like a wall of bass..but if his highs come off..cover your ears. and yes..some mixes..the highs are on..and the bass is off


Posted by Helta on Oct-05-2002 10:21:

Well, I've only been DJing a year, and I haven't played to anything more than house parties, so I'm not not sure I'm a guru on the subject... but in my opinion I really like the deadair in this mix, sounds crazy, but I like the fact you can hear the DJ has got the balls to feel confident enough in his mixing skills to not hide the beatmatching under any melody. Also, you can really tell the next track is coming in, (I find Punk is very good for this) which builds up energy in my opinion.

If I'm honest, you guys are waay to picky I've heard Paul Van Dyk make worse transitions than this, and in a club it'd come across fine,

Good Effort!


Posted by Narcissus on Oct-06-2002 03:47:

Wow. Thats a really nice transition. I'll have to aagree with what Helta said. Just keep doing what you're doing.


Posted by Jah on Oct-06-2002 04:27:

thanx for the helpful reply guys



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