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A million dollars question

Suppose you have been diagnosed with hearing loss. Would you continue making music or would you quit it forever?

I'd take up the accordion and annoy the shit out of everybody with it.

what about a serious answer?

yep continue, look at Beethoven he was completely deaf but didn't let that stop him!!

just watch your levels. For me the headphones are the killer, i get carried away and turn them too loud sometimes. I even got a spl meter and measured the output of my headphones so i know where is safe and where is not. Although this is apparently not 100% accurate due to the way your ear amplifies the sound

Apparently you can take 92 DB max for 4 hours or 88 DB max for 8 hours before permanent hearing loss

Having said this is still crank them up sometimes, which is just stupid

I know ive already caused some damage, just nothing too serious (as yet)

Canford audio will fit a limiter for round �150, which im considering

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Originally posted by chris marsh yep continue, look at Beethoven he was completely deaf but didn't let that stop him!! just watch your levels. For me the headphones are the killer, i get carried away and turn them too loud sometimes. I even got a spl meter and measured the output of my headphones so i know where is safe and where is not. Although this is apparently not 100% accurate due to the way your ear amplifies the sound Apparently you can take 92 DB max for 4 hours or 88 DB max for 8 hours before permanent hearing loss Having said this is still crank them up sometimes, which is just stupid I know ive already caused some damage, just nothing too serious (as yet) Canford audio will fit a limiter for round �150, which im considering

How can I measure the sound level if I am using headphones?

well you can do what i do, press the spl meter up to the earpiece of the headphone. As i mentioned this will not be 100% accurate but wlll give you a good idea!

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Originally posted by chris marsh well you can do what i do, press the spl meter up to the earpiece of the headphone. As i mentioned this will not be 100% accurate but wlll give you a good idea!

sorry but where can i get spl meter?

just type spl meter into google :0 i have an analog one which is cheaper

its also usrful if your trying to calibrate your room etc

And what is your diagnosis exactly?

It didn't have to be a million dollars. Ever heard who tilted the kettle? DJ's from all over the world came for their chance at a 17*. When the time came, each DJ began to throw their coins in. The goal being to tilt the kettle. The gold begin to accumulate- coin by coin. DJ after DJ threw their gold in. Until it was my turn. I threw one gold piece the one with the Mickey Mouse Head on it, and tilted the kettle.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation And what is your diagnosis exactly?

None yet, I am just assuming.

We I took the online hearing test and this is when my doubts began. Check this out:

http://www.hearinglosscheck.org/hearingcheck/check/

Don't try to self diagnose. Just anything can alter the results of that test; headphones used, soundcard (and I know you don't have one) etc. Even how tired you are, any medications and what ambient noise there is near will drastically skew the results.

Go get a proper, certified audiologist and do a real test. Do it soone r rather than later if you have concerns and don't turn your headphones or monitors louder than you need. Even going to clubs for 4 hours can seriously damage your hearing.

I heard that Sasha has hearing problem in one ear now and quite bad tinnitus.

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Originally posted by Microlab None yet, I am just assuming. We I took the online hearing test and this is when my doubts began. Check this out: http://www.hearinglosscheck.org/hearingcheck/check/

This test is bullshit.

Go take a serious audiometric evaluation if you're concerned. I bet you're totally trippin'.

hearing

This is, ofcourse, pretty serious stuff

after wearing ear plugs 18 hours per day for 10 years
it seems my chances of passing that test are low

but apparently, in city life, ear plugs infact protect your ears. I passed the test mentioned earlier here...even with my earplugs IN while doing the test.

That is kind of re-assuring.

Trance has a lot of low bass and that must potentially create
hearing problems if it's played for years at high vols. Some headphones are extreme for bass (V-moda) for example. (50 mill drivers)

yes. Well done for a reality check here. It would be the sadest
day ever to loose ones hearing or have a bad handicap there.

V

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Originally posted by chris marsh yep continue, look at Beethoven he was completely deaf but didn't let that stop him!! just watch your levels. For me the headphones are the killer, i get carried away and turn them too loud sometimes. I even got a spl meter and measured the output of my headphones so i know where is safe and where is not. Although this is apparently not 100% accurate due to the way your ear amplifies the sound Apparently you can take 92 DB max for 4 hours or 88 DB max for 8 hours before permanent hearing loss Having said this is still crank them up sometimes, which is just stupid I know ive already caused some damage, just nothing too serious (as yet) Canford audio will fit a limiter for round �150, which im considering

Beethoven has some questionable orchestration that was obviously because he couldn't hear. every conductor makes the proper adjustments. If you can't hear , you can;'t mix. But hearing loss , well that is a wide spectrum. The guys in their 50s making most of the money aren't hearing past 12khz. It is something you can't avoid. Even in mid 20s, you aren't hearing past 16.

And those tests only go to 8khz. You would have to pay for some special test somewhere private.

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Originally posted by vinceGOLD Trance has a lot of low bass and that must potentially create hearing problems if it's played for years at high vols. Some headphones are extreme for bass (V-moda) for example. (50 mill drivers) V

the way your cilia are triggered and how frequency is translated to me seems like this is absolute bullshit. The same reason nobody seems to loose their hearing from the low end. I haven't actually checked but i would say bass is really not the killer.

looks like somebody just watched its all gone pete tong for the first time.

Years of going out 4 nights a week in my late teens and early twenties took their toll on my hearing, so I went and got my ears tested a while ago. I have a pretty steep roll-off around 16k. The machine basically only went up to 16k though, because medically no one cares about frequencies above that; they only care about vocal range and other normal day-to-day things.

Anywho, as L4C says, a lot of famous musicians ears are totally fucked, so I wouldn't worry about it. Who gives a shit anyway though? It's not like you're going to become the next Tiesto van Buuren 5000. If you enjoy it, do it. It's just a hobby.

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Originally posted by echosystm ...a lot of famous musicians ears are totally fucked, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Indeed, don't worry about it. If some famous person screwed up his/her ears,
why should you give a crap about yours.

If tinnitus sounds (pun) like a good deal to you,
and always wanted a companion for life in the form of an eternal beep in your ear,
then don't hesitate to crank up the volume.

If you do care just the tinniest bit: lower down the volume (monitors, headphones, your iPod's earbuds).
Buy yourself some custom made professional ear-plugs and use them when heading to the club/party/festival/DJ'ing.

i would kill myself if i lost my hearing.

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Originally posted by farris Indeed, don't worry about it. If some famous person screwed up his/her ears, why should you give a crap about yours.

You misunderstand me. I'm not saying you shouldn't look after your ears. I'm saying that mild hearing loss isn't going to stop you from making music. There are a lot of musicians out there with terrible hearing and they are still kicking along.

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