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How the get into Psy

Hi guys, I'm back in the forum since a long long loooonngg time, I came back here wondering if someone could help

I'm trying to start adding some psy elements to my tracks and honestly I don't know how to get it.

Any advice will be very helpful, basically I'm looking how to get some solid psy basslines, should I use more than a bass as in uplifting??
and what about that sort of chords/effects/hits we can find in every psy/progressive psy production? are they sampled? did I get some specific synth?

Any sample library to recommend?

I have tried the search option in this forum but is not working, it keeps getting errors, so please apologize if there is another topic about this.


Thanks in advance

You might want to hunt down a sample of the Yamaha TX81Z Lately Bass, really widely used in psy trance for bass. If not you could just use sawtooth waves with fairly fast decay on the filter envelope. If you end up using a synth/plug-in make sure the phase of the oscillator resets with each consecutive note, otherwise resample a note and use that. It should sound sharp and snappy.

Generally you'll use 16th notes with sidechain compression coming from the kick. The basslines in psy tunes tend sit at one pitch and not deviate much with chord progressions like other kinds of trance. Though not always.

You might want to layer a couple of basses, have one playing pretty low/sub frequencies kept mostly unaffected and in mono. Another one sitting up more in the upper/midrange with some some stereo/delay effects, maybe chorus or flanger with some automation to add extra movement and depth. Both layers can use the same 16th note pattern.

You'll need to play around different settings depending on the kick you've chosen and the tempo your track is at.

Second to none Psytrance courses

http://music-production-videos.com/psytrance-tutorial

There's a progressive Psy one as well.

Also, Zenhiser does a good selection of Psy samples.

Ketamine. Shitloads of ketamine.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/elec...que-thread.html

Try to find a synth with a saw wave.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Try to find a synth with a saw wave.

I thought a Nord Lead 1 or 2 was the minimum requirement.

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Originally posted by cryophonik I thought a Nord Lead 1 or 2 was the minimum requirement.

No, the Nord Modular.

He loves the Nord Modular.

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Originally posted by tehlord No, the Nord Modular. He loves the Nord Modular.

Quite

The g1 is the same sound engine as the n2, the g2 same as the n3. Except it is like the n2 or n3 on crack

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Originally posted by tehlord No, the Nord Modular. He loves the Nord Modular.

I meant the minimum requirement for psytrance, not L4C.

I don't find making psy difficult at all, in fact it's a little bit of a problem for me to avoid it sometimes; I love to layer things and often use 16th or 32nd notes to sit in between some lead sounds and before I know it I've ended up in Goa. I actually have to consciously avoid doing that.

I can't get the drums to sound right, it seems to be in the frequency envelope, but all my tweaking gets me from gabber kick to chiptune kick to trance kick, quite frustrating.

Its pretty easy to make the bass sounds with nekobee or bassline, both free synth plugins, then you throw some spacey beepy noises on top of it, but the damn drums just aren't right.

Maybe I can eq the trance kick in some way, the psy kick just seems like more of a chirpy thing than the others.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 I can't get the drums to sound right, it seems to be in the frequency envelope

Right on, basically any synth that lets you modulate the pitch of the oscillator with a couple of separate envelopes should do the trick. Exponential envelopes help.

Bazzism is the shizz for psy kicks.

thanks everybody for some interesting info and tips, I will upload a preview shortly and will ask for comments.

BTW any good sample library and soundbanks for vsti to get?

Getting into psytrance is easy. Standing out from the massive amount of kick/bass/triplets trippy resonance synths songs everyone is doing, is the hard part.

ya, i don't even know why it is still called pay trance unless you are just doing what has been done. It is a dead genre. The new stuff that doesn't suck has taken from other genres just like all the other genres.

Spectrasonics Omnisphere is perfect for Psy Trance believe it or not. Superb leads and some great rolling basslines can be produced with it.

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Originally posted by theqlogic87 Spectrasonics Omnisphere is perfect for Psy Trance believe it or not. Superb leads and some great rolling basslines can be produced with it.

.. Which can be produced by any other cheaper soft synth too. Omnisphere is great for almost everything, but it's pretty expensive.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney ya, i don't even know why it is still called pay trance unless you are just doing what has been done. It is a dead genre. The new stuff that doesn't suck has taken from other genres just like all the other genres.

"It is a dead genre" Explain...

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Originally posted by theqlogic87 "It is a dead genre" Explain...

Because it used to be a shit genre and the only thing that has changed since then is time.

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Originally posted by echosystm Because it used to be a shit genre and the only thing that has changed since then is time.

Just say you don't enjoy Psy? What's up with all this extra Psy is "dead" and is "shit" lol

try to avoid some of these

The best way to get into Psy is to listen to Gangnam Style over and over.

Does angry man count as psy?

his sets were friggin amazing last year

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